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Lurchasaurus wrote:

Tak Kak wrote:

Lurchasaurus wrote:

Tak Kak wrote:

People passively win games with tremendous teamwork without the use of mics, full fledged clans who do work together and know what they are doing would be right up there. When I do have my mic on it's hard to imagine that i'm gaining any spacial awareness that I don't already have, other than that it's pretend tactics when someone is pointing out the enemy....it's fun, but I usually turn my mic off. All of that is odd considering I had alot of help in the last build when people in my tank were spotting for me, maybe it's the map to big really I like to play ambush.

One of my pet peeves is a team actually using mics, but no one tells me theres a tank on the field....If you want me to take care of AV efforts for the team, say something....That increases my spatial awareness big time...

That depends on how much such and such infantry or vehicle is influencing a game and how well that communication gets across random people. If a tank is rolling around covering every objective, squawking over the mics from a random stranger about a location of a tank is relatively unreliable and you can go on a wild goose chase when everyone isn't using a mic relaying all the positions of the tank. I don't expect everyone to use a mic, in fact they are on default turned off. If someone really wants to have a teamwork style game then they can wait until the beta as this is not what we are here for, other than testing the mic functionality. Mics again are fun but I have a little more concentration when I don't have to manage with people I don't know and am not yet playing with a corporation I am experienced with.

im talking about kiddies screaming at me to get my ass over to an objective to aid a cap, so i do, only to have a tank sneak up behind me while im busy when someone could have easily said, "Hey they just called in a tank, be aware..."

This is in addition to the current bugged enemy icons. You could just not see any tank icons, butstill have a hostile tank on the field. Goes a long way to preserve my tank and obviously helps the team if i can stay around to keep their vehicles off the field.

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Xanik Motiff Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 32	Posted - 2012.08.03 05:56:00 - [1] - Quote about a good 70 percent of matches that I play which end up loosing is the lack to teamwork, Personally I try to capture or recapture objectives but it seems to me half my team is just trying to get a better KD/R. So this will be a two part question are you guys seeing the same thing or am I having a string of bad luck and CCP can we please have grouping by next update?
Renzo Kuken Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 369	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:00:00 - [2] - Quote yep i am seeing it too too many COD players and not enough Battlefield players
Stupid Drunk1 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 96	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:20:00 - [3] - Quote luckily I end up on teams with a lot of ex-MAG-GOTS, its great to play with them, agaisnt them is very fun too 4 example they know how to use latency through straffe to kill victims, plus whatever skills they have. I care about mic players or MAGGOTS, about it, winning with them I do not care about wining witih randoms, due to lack of enabled voice chat, few players give me problems as infantry, besides spoon, proto, who play a lot of the same games. Next to them pretty much everybody else is equal - garbage to my fittings/skills, outside a vehicle or luring, using as primary remote explosives, which im guliable too
FranticLurch Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:29:00 - [4] - Quote Renzo Kuken wrote: yep i am seeing it too too many COD players and not enough Battlefield players same here PPL PLEASE GET ON COMS!!!!!!!!!!
Tak Kak 22	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:42:00 - [5] - Quote People passively win games with tremendous teamwork without the use of mics, full fledged clans who do work together and know what they are doing would be right up there. When I do have my mic on it's hard to imagine that i'm gaining any spacial awareness that I don't already have, other than that it's pretend tactics when someone is pointing out the enemy....it's fun, but I usually turn my mic off. All of that is odd considering I had alot of help in the last build when people in my tank were spotting for me, maybe it's the map to big really I like to play ambush.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.03 06:46:00 - [6] - Quote Tak Kak wrote: People passively win games with tremendous teamwork without the use of mics, full fledged clans who do work together and know what they are doing would be right up there. When I do have my mic on it's hard to imagine that i'm gaining any spacial awareness that I don't already have, other than that it's pretend tactics when someone is pointing out the enemy....it's fun, but I usually turn my mic off. All of that is odd considering I had alot of help in the last build when people in my tank were spotting for me, maybe it's the map to big really I like to play ambush. One of my pet peeves is a team actually using mics, but no one tells me theres a tank on the field....If you want me to take care of AV efforts for the team, say something....That increases my spatial awareness big time...
Stupid Drunk1 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 96	Posted - 2012.08.03 07:00:00 - [7] - Quote To win without mic passivly takes trust, or in other words alot of risk, mic players take a step up with, tjust a few guys makes worlds of diffrence with mics on the ingame internal voice system or ventrillo, or teamspead, skype or another external option make all the difference, a lot of micleess players have mic and are using them but you will never hear them, because they dont want to talk to random idots. randoms idiots however can bind together bc they are deprived of the ability to play isn groups. I have never herd of any group winning anything without communication from body language or verbal, oral commands. sorroy body language comes with experience why I know to fear/trust players
Tak Kak 22	Posted - 2012.08.03 07:07:00 - [8] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Tak Kak wrote: People passively win games with tremendous teamwork without the use of mics, full fledged clans who do work together and know what they are doing would be right up there. When I do have my mic on it's hard to imagine that i'm gaining any spacial awareness that I don't already have, other than that it's pretend tactics when someone is pointing out the enemy....it's fun, but I usually turn my mic off. All of that is odd considering I had alot of help in the last build when people in my tank were spotting for me, maybe it's the map to big really I like to play ambush. One of my pet peeves is a team actually using mics, but no one tells me theres a tank on the field....If you want me to take care of AV efforts for the team, say something....That increases my spatial awareness big time... That depends on how much such and such infantry or vehicle is influencing a game and how well that communication gets across random people. If a tank is rolling around covering every objective, squawking over the mics from a random stranger about a location of a tank is relatively unreliable and you can go on a wild goose chase when everyone isn't using a mic relaying all the positions of the tank. I don't expect everyone to use a mic, in fact they are on default turned off. If someone really wants to have a teamwork style game then they can wait until the beta as this is not what we are here for, other than testing the mic functionality. Mics again are fun but I have a little more concentration when I don't have to manage with people I don't know and am not yet playing with a corporation I am experienced with.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.03 07:11:00 - [9] - Quote Tak Kak wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Tak Kak wrote: People passively win games with tremendous teamwork without the use of mics, full fledged clans who do work together and know what they are doing would be right up there. When I do have my mic on it's hard to imagine that i'm gaining any spacial awareness that I don't already have, other than that it's pretend tactics when someone is pointing out the enemy....it's fun, but I usually turn my mic off. All of that is odd considering I had alot of help in the last build when people in my tank were spotting for me, maybe it's the map to big really I like to play ambush. One of my pet peeves is a team actually using mics, but no one tells me theres a tank on the field....If you want me to take care of AV efforts for the team, say something....That increases my spatial awareness big time... That depends on how much such and such infantry or vehicle is influencing a game and how well that communication gets across random people. If a tank is rolling around covering every objective, squawking over the mics from a random stranger about a location of a tank is relatively unreliable and you can go on a wild goose chase when everyone isn't using a mic relaying all the positions of the tank. I don't expect everyone to use a mic, in fact they are on default turned off. If someone really wants to have a teamwork style game then they can wait until the beta as this is not what we are here for, other than testing the mic functionality. Mics again are fun but I have a little more concentration when I don't have to manage with people I don't know and am not yet playing with a corporation I am experienced with. im talking about kiddies screaming at me to get my ass over to an objective to aid a cap, so i do, only to have a tank sneak up behind me while im busy when someone could have easily said, "Hey they just called in a tank, be aware..." This is in addition to the current bugged enemy icons. You could just not see any tank icons, butstill have a hostile tank on the field. Goes a long way to preserve my tank and obviously helps the team if i can stay around to keep their vehicles off the field.
Tak Kak 22	Posted - 2012.08.03 07:13:00 - [10] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Tak Kak wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Tak Kak wrote: People passively win games with tremendous teamwork without the use of mics, full fledged clans who do work together and know what they are doing would be right up there. When I do have my mic on it's hard to imagine that i'm gaining any spacial awareness that I don't already have, other than that it's pretend tactics when someone is pointing out the enemy....it's fun, but I usually turn my mic off. All of that is odd considering I had alot of help in the last build when people in my tank were spotting for me, maybe it's the map to big really I like to play ambush. One of my pet peeves is a team actually using mics, but no one tells me theres a tank on the field....If you want me to take care of AV efforts for the team, say something....That increases my spatial awareness big time... That depends on how much such and such infantry or vehicle is influencing a game and how well that communication gets across random people. If a tank is rolling around covering every objective, squawking over the mics from a random stranger about a location of a tank is relatively unreliable and you can go on a wild goose chase when everyone isn't using a mic relaying all the positions of the tank. I don't expect everyone to use a mic, in fact they are on default turned off. If someone really wants to have a teamwork style game then they can wait until the beta as this is not what we are here for, other than testing the mic functionality. Mics again are fun but I have a little more concentration when I don't have to manage with people I don't know and am not yet playing with a corporation I am experienced with. im talking about kiddies screaming at me to get my ass over to an objective to aid a cap, so i do, only to have a tank sneak up behind me while im busy when someone could have easily said, "Hey they just called in a tank, be aware..." This is in addition to the current bugged enemy icons. You could just not see any tank icons, butstill have a hostile tank on the field. Goes a long way to preserve my tank and obviously helps the team if i can stay around to keep their vehicles off the field. I like sneaking up on people with tanks....heh.

Ad ski IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 209	Posted - 2012.08.03 08:46:00 - [11] - Quote Yeah I know the feeling but even on battlefield I always seem to find a huge lack of teamwork. It's just the mentality of people nowadays caring about k/d etc too much.
Mr TamiyaCowboy Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.08.03 09:14:00 - [12] - Quote or you ask on coms who is FC and the answer is, ultimate silence. or you a trying to narrow down on a nanofag ( speed skilled duster in a proto scout) , only to have someone say hey go capture A. you do so but find your alone with a snipers rifle up against proto suits, smg's more nades that a usa military arms store. or some peon campng the spawn/objective point. played on a half MAG side to what i could guess, they could be a little better at fleet coms, dishing out mre than just a primary target, i have never seen the all a secondary right after the first has been engaged, thats like 6 players doing sweet FA
HowDidThatTaste 461	Posted - 2012.08.03 09:39:00 - [13] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Tak Kak wrote: People passively win games with tremendous teamwork without the use of mics, full fledged clans who do work together and know what they are doing would be right up there. When I do have my mic on it's hard to imagine that i'm gaining any spacial awareness that I don't already have, other than that it's pretend tactics when someone is pointing out the enemy....it's fun, but I usually turn my mic off. All of that is odd considering I had alot of help in the last build when people in my tank were spotting for me, maybe it's the map to big really I like to play ambush. One of my pet peeves is a team actually using mics, but no one tells me theres a tank on the field....If you want me to take care of AV efforts for the team, say something....That increases my spatial awareness big time... LURCH. When do you kick a midget in the balls? When he is standing next to your girlfriend saying her hair smells nice
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.08.03 10:03:00 - [14] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Tak Kak wrote: People passively win games with tremendous teamwork without the use of mics, full fledged clans who do work together and know what they are doing would be right up there. When I do have my mic on it's hard to imagine that i'm gaining any spacial awareness that I don't already have, other than that it's pretend tactics when someone is pointing out the enemy....it's fun, but I usually turn my mic off. All of that is odd considering I had alot of help in the last build when people in my tank were spotting for me, maybe it's the map to big really I like to play ambush. One of my pet peeves is a team actually using mics, but no one tells me theres a tank on the field....If you want me to take care of AV efforts for the team, say something....That increases my spatial awareness big time... LURCH. When do you kick a midget in the balls? When he is standing next to your girlfriend saying her hair smells nice yeah, id agree with that
Mr TamiyaCowboy Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 121	Posted - 2012.08.03 10:16:00 - [15] - Quote the biggest downer. having a great game, comes over coms to make way to A. you do so and end up in a red gheybar party. yes your not in defenders coms your in attackers coms , Doh Fail not always good idea to listen to FC :s
HowDidThatTaste 461	Posted - 2012.08.03 10:34:00 - [16] - Quote If people bring so much courage to this world the world has to kill them to break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good, and the very gentle, and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too, but there will be no special hurry. Ernest Hemingway And good night to you all good clones. Die Well.
Xanik Motiff Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 32	Posted - 2012.08.03 12:43:00 - [17] - Quote is voice chat only enabled when mic is on or do i have to press a button cause i never hear anyone..... ever
K'ring Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.08.03 12:49:00 - [18] - Quote Xanik - you have to enable voice chat in the options (at least you did last week, don't know if its been changed since) K
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.08.03 12:52:00 - [19] - Quote it really depends. People on voice comms tend to be more than open to teamplay. I had some VERY nice games with different people where teamwork was good. Asking backup => getting backup Seeing a dropship in the air, asking the guy to pick me up and he did. Requesting nanohives and a guy jumping at me in its LAV from the other side of the map. No really. It depends. When no one is on voice comms. There you're doomed lol. Makes sense after all... No communication. No way to coordinate.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.08.03 12:52:00 - [20] - Quote Until grouping is put in i tend to play for me only and do what i want Sometimes i will try teamwork if other ppl are on the mic but half the time its a waste of time



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