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Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:36:00 -
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Just want to say that I hate Creodron Assault Rifles. I absolutely do. I have fully upgraded Submachine Gun skills with the Boundless Breach Submachine gun, yet even though I get the hop on many enemies, they turn around and I am killed in maybe 4 or so shots. Don't get me wrong, I have a well fit scout suit, with shields to boot. And I know how to strafe and dodge as a scout, and my mobility modules have gotten me out of fire (or shot while running) numerous times... but I am just frustrated with how I can unload half a proto-sub clip into an unsuspecting foe only to have 4 shots bring me down when they turn they're gun on me.
Just wanted to rant somewhere that people would understand. lol |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:38:00 -
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Stop using scout suits then lol |
Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:39:00 -
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I enjoy running at 8.45 m/s in order to reclaim an objective though. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:39:00 -
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Scout suit... Doesn't the creodron do 50+ shots a hit? If you upgrade the proficiency to 5, that means you can get up to 65 damage per shot...
I can see how you can get frustrated, but scout suits really aren't suited for going up to assault suits. Should have learnt after the first few times? :) |
Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:41:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Scout suit... Doesn't the creodron do 50+ shots a hit? If you upgrade the proficiency to 5, that means you can get up to 65 damage per shot...
I can see how you can get frustrated, but scout suits really aren't suited for going up to assault suits. Should have learnt after the first few times? :)
In many matches I am the first to objectives and holding them down while attempting to capture. Its a matter of circumstance, not choice. |
theschizogenious
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
167
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:42:00 -
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if your really having that much of a problem with them just make a new character and spec him in assault.
then you'll get to use one |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:43:00 -
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Dante Daedrik wrote:Just want to say that I hate Creodron Assault Rifles. I absolutely do. I have fully upgraded Submachine Gun skills with the Boundless Breach Submachine gun, yet even though I get the hop on many enemies, they turn around and I am killed in maybe 4 or so shots. Don't get me wrong, I have a well fit scout suit, with shields to boot. And I know how to strafe and dodge as a scout, and my mobility modules have gotten me out of fire (or shot while running) numerous times... but I am just frustrated with how I can unload half a proto-sub clip into an unsuspecting foe only to have 4 shots bring me down when they turn they're gun on me.
Just wanted to rant somewhere that people would understand. lol
GTFO of the scout class, we do not need bad players like you making scouts look bad |
Jesse Jayne
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:46:00 -
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Do what every other scout player does an kill the guy with remote explosives
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:47:00 -
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it's worthless for CQC when you combine the infamous hitbox with the CQC slideshow |
Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:47:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:
GTFO of the scout class, we do not need bad players like you making scouts look bad
Trololol.
>>Implying that my ability as a scout is souly based off of engagements with AR users rather than including objective capturing and AV maneuvers. |
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ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:58:00 -
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Dante Daedrik wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:
GTFO of the scout class, we do not need bad players like you making scouts look bad
Trololol. >>Implying that my ability as a scout is souly based off of engagements with AR users rather than including objective capturing and AV maneuvers.
Scouts don't whine they kill
Remember that |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.08.02 20:59:00 -
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I stopped reading after "why doesn't my scout suit tank damage" |
Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:03:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:I stopped reading after "why doesn't my scout suit tank damage"
I obviously don't expect it to tank damage, but I do expect to kill someone when surprising them with a proto-clip. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
153
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:05:00 -
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Funny, I play assault, and usually I'm the first one to start capping. It's usually C, since I fly over my enemy's heads in a dropship... |
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:18:00 -
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Dante Daedrik wrote:PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:I stopped reading after "why doesn't my scout suit tank damage" I obviously don't expect it to tank damage, but I do expect to kill someone when surprising them with a proto-clip.
you severely underestimate the wild amount of armor and shields people have. |
Cameron StarGazer
63
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:23:00 -
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I can't wait to get my hands on the prototype gear, makes mince meat of all Type-1 set ups. <------- Correct attitude. |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:36:00 -
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I do think that the Creo is a little bit OP.Hope they add a but more recoil to that thing.
I've tried and tried,but I can't use that gun for anything,yet I get totally wasted by it,even though I'm tanked out in the assault class.
I hate the CreoDron too,but I'm not foolish enough to run a scout suit against it. |
Baron Rittmeister
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:38:00 -
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I can vouch for dante, he's a decent player. Dante, you are shooting a lower dps weapon against a suit that has a lot more hp than you do. Even though the boundless smg is great ( my personal fav ) it still doesn't out damage the creodron. I've seen a lot of scouts try the smg route in which they just rely on their dance to dodge and their own accuracy to get the necessary hits.
If you're having trouble then maybe you should consider assault, cuz I know of very few that can pull that off successfully and it's only really good for 1v1 engagements. |
Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:42:00 -
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Thanks for the advice Baron, I'm considering to test out Scout with AR, because my play style requires mobility and being able to catch up to vehicles or parked dropships to take them out or even snag objectives efficiently, but just need to adjust my play style for 1v1 engagements. |
Blunt Smkr
Doomheim
62
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:46:00 -
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i thought the creodon was op at first but really it just matters who is using it. an on a 1v1 fight creodon v boundless smg, the smg should win in close quarters an creodon at distances. so its either u cant aim or u were trying to shoot from a distance. an as a scout u got to be on ur toes at all time cause really anything can 4-5 shot u lol. u just got to play smart as a scout other wise ur going to die alot. |
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
781
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:47:00 -
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Dante Daedrik wrote:Thanks for the advice Baron, I'm considering to test out Scout with AR, because my play style requires mobility and being able to catch up to vehicles or parked dropships to take them out or even snag objectives efficiently, but just need to adjust my play style for 1v1 engagements.
YUP! |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:53:00 -
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Funny. One of the matches I observed last weekend had a guy who absolutely would not shut up about needing to nerf the Boundless Breach SMG. (He was complaining about its range a lot, which means he's either mostly running up against people with lots of SP into the relevant skills, or he's kind of dim.)
My best advice to you, Dante, is don't get shot. Seriously. A full Proto scout will never be able to survive more than a few Creodon AR shots, so make sure you are taking full advantage of your speed, your lightning quick shield recharges, and that low signature profile.
I never stick around an objective after hacking it, as there will usually be two or three guys inbound after hacking. Instead I circle around and stake out a hardened, obscured, or elevated position nearby. That way, I'm right back to attacking an objective instead of holding one. Even if they unhack it before I can swing back around, I should have backup incoming or at least be in a good position to eliminate the unhackers and start again.
Scouts can't afford to be reacting to the battlefield; we have to be smarter to take advantage of the class' numerous advantages. |
Dante Daedrik
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:59:00 -
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PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote:Dante Daedrik wrote:Thanks for the advice Baron, I'm considering to test out Scout with AR, because my play style requires mobility and being able to catch up to vehicles or parked dropships to take them out or even snag objectives efficiently, but just need to adjust my play style for 1v1 engagements. YUP!
I already knew this, never did I call for a buff/nerf of anything. Was only stating I dislike Creodrons. |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.08.02 22:19:00 -
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I dislike heavies for soaking up my bullets but hey, that's the perk of taking a Heavy suit. Creodrons Rate of Fire is slow enough to see the shots being placed, so get up close with hipfire and just beat him with ROF and clever jumping. |
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