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DrunkMonk 1 Walmart Brand Mercenaries 26	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:04:00 - [1] - Quote Tanks need to be more expensive and/or low level anti tank weapons and REs need to be made more useful against 3rd tier tanks. EDIT sorry this should be in feedback
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:27:00 - [2] - Quote Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:28:00 - [3] - Quote Tank prices will be skyrocketing SOONGäó They're looking at Marauders being over 1 million ISK.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:31:00 - [4] - Quote Hello Madrugar, goodbye Surya.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:34:00 - [5] - Quote Except ISK gain is going up as well, so the risk of using a tank will really not increase all that much.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:37:00 - [6] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. 1.4M now? Until I see an official DEV post on it ,I am assuming this price hike is a load of bollocks spread by tank haters. And it if IS true...I'm done with tanks, no tank is worth 1.2 or even 1.4M.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:42:00 - [7] - Quote I think this is the problem. Too many HAV drivers will only use Sagaris. They don't like the gunloggi. I remember last build I was bringing in NAKED gunloggi's at 50k a pop with no fittings at all. The Marauder is like protogear. You just shouldn't be able to constantly be in profit as a marauder driver. Until a price hike, no-one will touch gunloggi's :(
Traynor Youngs Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 287	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:42:00 - [8] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. 1.4M now? Until I see an official DEV post on it ,I am assuming this price hike is a load of bollocks spread by tank haters. And it if IS true...I'm done with tanks, no tank is worth 1.2 or even 1.4M. CCP dont fix prices. They set manufacturing requirements. They will eventually set tanks (regular tanks) up with a set of minerals that must be used to build them and let the Market set the price. Marauders are tech two and so will have moon minerals in them and also be price fixed by the market not by CCP. Expect to see things like Marauders price fluctuating due to player market fluctuations and speculation.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.29 05:56:00 - [9] - Quote Traynor Youngs wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. 1.4M now? Until I see an official DEV post on it ,I am assuming this price hike is a load of bollocks spread by tank haters. And it if IS true...I'm done with tanks, no tank is worth 1.2 or even 1.4M. CCP dont fix prices. They set manufacturing requirements. They will eventually set tanks (regular tanks) up with a set of minerals that must be used to build them and let the Market set the price. Marauders are tech two and so will have moon minerals in them and also be price fixed by the market not by CCP. Expect to see things like Marauders price fluctuating due to player market fluctuations and speculation. I know this, but that is not how it is in the Beta. And though the Marauders are called Marauders, I'm not confusing them with the Marauders from EVE. I'd say there are no Tech II gear in DUST yet, Multiple tiers yes, but it is all Tech I.
Debacle Nano Shadow Company HQ 639	Posted - 2012.07.29 06:03:00 - [10] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. 1.4M now? Until I see an official DEV post on it ,I am assuming this price hike is a load of bollocks spread by tank haters. And it if IS true...I'm done with tanks, no tank is worth 1.2 or even 1.4M. I drive a Surya and I'm just as down as you are.

Daalzebul Del'Armgo D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 48	Posted - 2012.07.29 06:07:00 - [11] - Quote 1.4 mil i am fine with that even using the surya losing one might actually put me negative instead of just buying 10 at a time whenever i need one.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.29 06:47:00 - [12] - Quote I've been told by multiple sources (at least a couple of whom have cited the IRC as source) that well-fitted Marauders will be going up to about 1.2 million. Non-sourced comments have said as high as 1.4 and 1.5 million ISK for the hull alone. Believe what you will.
Ralyt R 0	Posted - 2012.07.29 07:56:00 - [13] - Quote You have a prototype AV weapon before they can even sit in a maurader. What is your complaint?
Relyt R Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2012.07.29 08:14:00 - [14] - Quote Ralyt R wrote: You have a prototype AV weapon before they can even sit in a maurader. What is your complaint? i am concerned
Stupid Drunk1 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 96	Posted - 2012.07.29 08:16:00 - [15] - Quote garbage relyt r i know u from toninght `shakes fist`
Relyt R Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2012.07.29 08:21:00 - [16] - Quote there's no way this guy is a coincidence <.<
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 789	Posted - 2012.07.29 08:26:00 - [17] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I've been told by multiple sources (at least a couple of whom have cited the IRC as source) that well-fitted Marauders will be going up to about 1.2 million. Non-sourced comments have said as high as 1.4 and 1.5 million ISK for the hull alone. Believe what you will. The hull itself will be 1.2m. But -everything- is going up, as is rewards. They intend to rebalance pricing so we're fighting for pennies in eve terms, as opposed to laughable fractions of pennies! Except a well fit maurader to be at least 2m ISK.
PDIGGY22 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.07.29 08:44:00 - [18] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. so a tank taking 10 RE's is fine?
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.07.29 09:21:00 - [19] - Quote I got today my HAV lvl on 3 to get a sagaris. I have to admit they are way to powerfull and i dont think 1.2 million will stop good HAV drivers to get 1. Cause you can keep 1 Sagaris the whole match if you dont do something really dumb. Also the 1.5 damage multiplyer allows you to outgun any kind of infantry and tanks. In my opinion to nerf those monsters on the battlefield you simply have to get rid of the 1.5 damage and make bigger penaltys to the shield/armor amplifiers. Cause at the moment when you have 3 25% damage reduction mods nothing really makes a scratch into the tank. And at the moment it needs less SP to get a marauder class HAV as get a logistic LAV. And this is just stupid. Another fact is when you are doing good with a HAV then your SP income skyrockets which allows you to get better gear faster as any 1 else. Also they stated with bigger prices for those Tanks also increases the ISK income.
carl von oppenheimer Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.07.29 09:38:00 - [20] - Quote My gunlogi has 3x 25% + 14% DCU and guess what, it gets OHK'ed by prototype forge guns. Only difference to marauder is that you can fit a marauder with shield extenders while keeping dmg the reduction.

Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.29 10:01:00 - [21] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I've been told by multiple sources (at least a couple of whom have cited the IRC as source) that well-fitted Marauders will be going up to about 1.2 million. Non-sourced comments have said as high as 1.4 and 1.5 million ISK for the hull alone. Believe what you will. The only "reliable" source (and even that is a bit iffy at times :P) is DEV Posts. Don't trust the "IRC" channel, it is not an official. source.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.29 10:03:00 - [22] - Quote PDIGGY22 wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. so a tank taking 10 RE's is fine? Yes, it is. RE's are not really supposed to be AV weapons, but for area denial, such as delaying the enemy in taking objectives.
Dillan NightStorm Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 70	Posted - 2012.07.29 10:14:00 - [23] - Quote Traynor Youngs wrote: CCP dont fix prices. They set manufacturing requirements. They will eventually set tanks (regular tanks) up with a set of minerals that must be used to build them and let the Market set the price. Marauders are tech two and so will have moon minerals in them and also be price fixed by the market not by CCP. Expect to see things like Marauders price fluctuating due to player market fluctuations and speculation. OK Where did a Dev post info on this crap! If the Eve price fixing that players do affects the cost of using the item in DUST it will kill off this game. What troll post did you fish this rubbish out of!
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.07.29 10:15:00 - [24] - Quote RE can be used for trapping a HAV. But this needs alot of communication and some 1 looking on the tactical map and telling the team where to put them. Simply put then 10 Re's on the ground when the HAV is on them just blow it up. Another thing is RE's are very cheap to buy and dont require much SP to unlock.
carl von oppenheimer Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.07.30 07:35:00 - [25] - Quote How do you explode all 10 when the last time I checked only the one thrown in last blew up ?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.30 07:49:00 - [26] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I've been told by multiple sources (at least a couple of whom have cited the IRC as source) that well-fitted Marauders will be going up to about 1.2 million. Non-sourced comments have said as high as 1.4 and 1.5 million ISK for the hull alone. Believe what you will. The only "reliable" source (and even that is a bit iffy at times :P) is DEV Posts. Don't trust the "IRC" channel, it is not an official. source. Dev comments on the IRC channel are a legit source most of the time. Just saying.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.30 07:52:00 - [27] - Quote Dillan NightStorm wrote: OK Where did a Dev post info on this crap! If the Eve price fixing that players do affects the cost of using the item in DUST it will kill off this game. What troll post did you fish this rubbish out of! Price fixing will happen as much because of DUST players as it does because of people in EVE. We'll be able to manage our own markets, and the devs confirmed AGES ago that the DUST market will be integrated (eventually) with the player-driven EVE marketplace. Probably not going to be happening on release, but in time, it will be happening, and people will be manipulating the market for their own purposes.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.30 11:09:00 - [28] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: I've been told by multiple sources (at least a couple of whom have cited the IRC as source) that well-fitted Marauders will be going up to about 1.2 million. Non-sourced comments have said as high as 1.4 and 1.5 million ISK for the hull alone. Believe what you will. The only "reliable" source (and even that is a bit iffy at times :P) is DEV Posts. Don't trust the "IRC" channel, it is not an official. source. Dev comments on the IRC channel are a legit source most of the time. Just saying. most of the time being the operative words.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.07.30 11:11:00 - [29] - Quote Just a note: (stating the obvious) In the previous build, Marauders cost 120k ISK, and the low tier tanks were at the price point they are at now. The only reason so few use the low tier tanks now, are that they haven't worked up their skills to the Marauders yet, and that the current price difference is a measly 10k ISK.
Spazzeh BHD Better Hide R Die 16	Posted - 2012.07.30 11:31:00 - [30] - Quote Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. Per tank!? Thats unreasonable.

Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.30 11:37:00 - [31] - Quote You can go 20 games without dying. It's a fair increase. It's still not going to stop people spamming them.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.07.30 11:38:00 - [32] - Quote Spazzeh BHD wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. Per tank!? Thats unreasonable. The entire balance of income vs. price for EVERYTHING is being reworked in the next build. Higher costs, but we'll be earning more too.
Spazzeh BHD Better Hide R Die 16	Posted - 2012.07.30 14:46:00 - [33] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Spazzeh BHD wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. Per tank!? Thats unreasonable. The entire balance of income vs. price for EVERYTHING is being reworked in the next build. Higher costs, but we'll be earning more too. We better be!
Nom Lemming 5	Posted - 2012.07.30 15:57:00 - [34] - Quote Spazzeh BHD wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. Per tank!? Thats unreasonable. If the materials come from EvE to make the tanks... you need to bear in mind that a decent mining barge on EvE costs about 200 million... and can be killed in seconds by a determined Destroyer pilot in a ship costing about a tenth of that. Happens alot too. Mineral prices change constantly and during special events like Hulkageddon (run last time by Goonswarm) prices can rapidly increase... HOPEFULLY some of us EvE players will be able to provide a sources that's not too expensive, but that's assuming Miners in EvE get the materials and make the gear instead of you guys aren't gathering materials from the planets yourselves. Best thing to do is wait and see really, and hope some of us miners can provide a fairly cheap source of materials...
Ray seveN Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 71	Posted - 2012.07.30 16:58:00 - [35] - Quote Spazzeh BHD wrote: Debacle Nano wrote: Their raising the price next build to 1.4 million. AV weapons are just fine. Tanks are just fine. Per tank!? Thats unreasonable. Well if spilling 1.2mill on a weapon that lasts about 6 matches(unless you do something stupid), that not only kills people in one shot but can win whole matches by just dropping in two of them, I think thats a pretty good investment.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.07.30 16:59:00 - [36] - Quote You miners are what actually drives EvE IMHO. I'd like to see you guys drive the equipment is dusters use.
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.08.01 10:53:00 - [37] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: You can go 20 games without dying. It's a fair increase. It's still not going to stop people spamming them. eh, if I could go 20 rounds in a tank without dying, I would be on the side saying they were OP! VERY few, if any tank driver can go more than a few rounds at best without dying. The 20 rounds per tank might have been true for some early on, before everybody started fielding AV gear.


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