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Rhadiem
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.29 04:49:00 -
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Nanohives are great, I carry them all the time, but looking at the advanced versions, they all are bigger "bubble" more ammo/cycle and heals armor.
I would like to see an Advanced and Prototype version that does basic level performance, but at a lower fitting cost. I don't want a super bubble, I'd just like a basic one that's more expensive, but cheaper fitting cost, as another type to choose from. A little armor repair would be nice too, but the sort a scout would carry, not a fat man. Thanks.
The Centrifuge model is the right idea, just not quite streamlined enough.
An idea of a "easy fit" Prototype Nanohive could be something like this:
Max Active 2
Max Carried 3
Effective Range 4m
Ammo Resupply rate 8%
Armor repair rate 2%
Health 300hp
CPU: 28
Power: 6
This would basically be the "barely a Nano" model for logistics and people looking to fit a lot of functionality at a less potent level. |
Mobius Kaethis
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
306
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Posted - 2012.07.29 04:54:00 -
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+1 to that.
I find that I am fitting nanos onto my assault suits and would love to use a less effective variant with lower requirements.
Another way to do this would be to make the nano skill reduce the cpu/pg costs by a small percent per level. 2% perhaps or 3% to fit with what other skills add. |
Eskel Bondfree
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Posted - 2012.07.29 09:30:00 -
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I vote against this idea. Nanohives are a support tool and should mainly be used by logistics players. Reducing fitting requirements is working against this. A less effective hive just means you have to wait a little longer until you're fully healed up and restocked after a fire fight, which is a very small price to pay, too small imo. Nano hives, especially the armor repping ones, should either be used by logi players, or force an assault/scout player to sacrifice a significant part of his offensive abilities. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:51:00 -
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Eskel Bondfree wrote:I vote against this idea. Nanohives are a support tool and should mainly be used by logistics players. Reducing fitting requirements is working against this. A less effective hive just means you have to wait a little longer until you're fully healed up and restocked after a fire fight, which is a very small price to pay, too small imo. Nano hives, especially the armor repping ones, should either be used by logi players, or force an assault/scout player to sacrifice a significant part of his offensive abilities.
I play logistics in a type 2 scout suit, and there are times when this would be useful. Not all logistics players need the heavy logistics suit with a beer dispenser and microwave. ;) If it's not balanced, then I'm up for making it balanced as far as stats, but if I want to train up for a prototype nanohive, and use it on a type 2 scout suit, lower fitting requirements at a lower effect, and higher isk price should be an option. Otherwise, I'll stay with my basic nanohive that doesn't require more training, is cheap, and doesn't eat up my cpu/power. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:31:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:Eskel Bondfree wrote:I vote against this idea. Nanohives are a support tool and should mainly be used by logistics players. Reducing fitting requirements is working against this. A less effective hive just means you have to wait a little longer until you're fully healed up and restocked after a fire fight, which is a very small price to pay, too small imo. Nano hives, especially the armor repping ones, should either be used by logi players, or force an assault/scout player to sacrifice a significant part of his offensive abilities. I play logistics in a type 2 scout suit, and there are times when this would be useful. Not all logistics players need the heavy logistics suit with a beer dispenser and microwave. ;) If it's not balanced, then I'm up for making it balanced as far as stats, but if I want to train up for a prototype nanohive, and use it on a type 2 scout suit, lower fitting requirements at a lower effect, and higher isk price should be an option. Otherwise, I'll stay with my basic nanohive that doesn't require more training, is cheap, and doesn't eat up my cpu/power.
So between the two of you, I take it we're suggesting the same thing they do in EVE.
Make Nanohives cheaper on PG/CPU requirements FOR LOGI SUITS ONLY.
And when they introduce cloaking and other stealth modules, gives Scouts a bonus towards those modules. Armour mods should have lower fitting requirements on Heavy suits (or give a reduced movement penalty).
Every suit should have a bonus to equipping certain gear. |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:36:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:
Make Nanohives cheaper on PG/CPU requirements FOR LOGI SUITS ONLY.
And when they introduce cloaking and other stealth modules, gives Scouts a bonus towards those modules. Armour mods should have lower fitting requirements on Heavy suits (or give a reduced movement penalty).
Every suit should have a bonus to equipping certain gear.
I second that. The class suits should have bonuses that encourage using that suit to play this class. Just like it is in EVE right now. (more or less ;) ) |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.07.31 07:56:00 -
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Some of the previews show bonus on drop-suits and vehicles. We will probably get to test these once the other dropsuits are added, like the caldari heavy or amarr scout suits. Each race will probably have a couple diffrent suits too, so there may be 12+ different standard assault drop suits requiring 4 different skills to use.
CCP is just testing other things and/or the suits are not ready yet. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.01 23:27:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rhadiem wrote:Eskel Bondfree wrote:I vote against this idea. Nanohives are a support tool and should mainly be used by logistics players. Reducing fitting requirements is working against this. A less effective hive just means you have to wait a little longer until you're fully healed up and restocked after a fire fight, which is a very small price to pay, too small imo. Nano hives, especially the armor repping ones, should either be used by logi players, or force an assault/scout player to sacrifice a significant part of his offensive abilities. I play logistics in a type 2 scout suit, and there are times when this would be useful. Not all logistics players need the heavy logistics suit with a beer dispenser and microwave. ;) If it's not balanced, then I'm up for making it balanced as far as stats, but if I want to train up for a prototype nanohive, and use it on a type 2 scout suit, lower fitting requirements at a lower effect, and higher isk price should be an option. Otherwise, I'll stay with my basic nanohive that doesn't require more training, is cheap, and doesn't eat up my cpu/power. So between the two of you, I take it we're suggesting the same thing they do in EVE. Make Nanohives cheaper on PG/CPU requirements FOR LOGI SUITS ONLY. And when they introduce cloaking and other stealth modules, gives Scouts a bonus towards those modules. Armour mods should have lower fitting requirements on Heavy suits (or give a reduced movement penalty). Every suit should have a bonus to equipping certain gear.
It's pretty evident I'm requesting something different than this :) Get your own thread. 
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.08.02 12:04:00 -
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Rhadiem wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rhadiem wrote:Eskel Bondfree wrote:I vote against this idea. Nanohives are a support tool and should mainly be used by logistics players. Reducing fitting requirements is working against this. A less effective hive just means you have to wait a little longer until you're fully healed up and restocked after a fire fight, which is a very small price to pay, too small imo. Nano hives, especially the armor repping ones, should either be used by logi players, or force an assault/scout player to sacrifice a significant part of his offensive abilities. I play logistics in a type 2 scout suit, and there are times when this would be useful. Not all logistics players need the heavy logistics suit with a beer dispenser and microwave. ;) If it's not balanced, then I'm up for making it balanced as far as stats, but if I want to train up for a prototype nanohive, and use it on a type 2 scout suit, lower fitting requirements at a lower effect, and higher isk price should be an option. Otherwise, I'll stay with my basic nanohive that doesn't require more training, is cheap, and doesn't eat up my cpu/power. So between the two of you, I take it we're suggesting the same thing they do in EVE. Make Nanohives cheaper on PG/CPU requirements FOR LOGI SUITS ONLY. And when they introduce cloaking and other stealth modules, gives Scouts a bonus towards those modules. Armour mods should have lower fitting requirements on Heavy suits (or give a reduced movement penalty). Every suit should have a bonus to equipping certain gear. It's pretty evident I'm requesting something different than this :) Get your own thread.
I wasn't saying that you were suggesting it on your own, just that taking aspects from what BOTH of you were saying could easily turn into that system - and that it would be a good way to make things work. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.08.03 04:40:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:
I wasn't saying that you were suggesting it on your own, just that taking aspects from what BOTH of you were saying could easily turn into that system - and that it would be a good way to make things work.
Gotcha. I don't see the need to restrict equipment more than the slots already, and it's not the same feel of what my OP/thread was about, but glad to provide the opportunity for alternate ideas. |
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