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Bresker Veyne
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:27:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:A corp full of people with 10 k/d will beat a corp full of people with 2.0 K/D. Teamwork doesn't mean **** when the other team is redlining you.
LoL vs T-C?
Killers>circle holders. We know it because we have tested it.
Ahahaha, 'killers' vs 'circle holders'. We got a bad ass over here! You mean you actually use the R1 button that's too extreme for me! Damn, I'd better stay away from you before I get hurt!
We can all safely say: Good teamwork with decent skills beats a bunch of uncoordinated killwhores any day. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:33:00 -
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Oh, boy looky another ego stroker thread! Yay! No, not really. If you are seriously trying to justify yourselves, and the ego you have then you only proves how inept you really are. Oh, boy look at me I can kill people! Yeah. So can anyone else in Dust. Your point? So what if you can do it a little better. The kill to death ratio is increadibly flawed, and broken. People justifying it, and their poor attitude is just petty and benine.
Simply put. I am laughing at you, and no you are not some bad arse. Get over youself, or selves, and shove off. I'd much rather work with someone who is willing to put forth more effort, time, and someone who is about the team, and objective then their own personal self gratification. Keep telling yourself that your kill to death ratio matters. Keep on trying.
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Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:37:00 -
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Bresker Veyne wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:A corp full of people with 10 k/d will beat a corp full of people with 2.0 K/D. Teamwork doesn't mean **** when the other team is redlining you.
LoL vs T-C?
Killers>circle holders. We know it because we have tested it. Ahahaha, 'killers' vs 'circle holders'. We got a bad ass over here! You mean you actually use the R1 button that's too extreme for me! Damn, I'd better stay away from you before I get hurt! We can all safely say: Good teamwork with decent skills beats a bunch of uncoordinated killwhores any day. It sounds like I struck a nerve with some of you circle holders that can't kill. We tested it on mag. We played circle holders vs elite killers. The elite killers won with great teamwork. Just because someone is good at killing doesn't mean they are bad at teamwork. That is so ignorant its not even funny. How about you get good and stop claiming that because you hold circle that excludes you from killing or having any skill at fps. GTFO
Killers>circle holders. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:39:00 -
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KDR is just a statistic. In a game where SP > skill (to a point) Total kills is what matters. |
xeto rak
Epidemic. Space Immigration
23
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:39:00 -
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If you keep killing but not achieving the objectives I doubt you will get paid when serious business is up. This is a strategy game too and there are many ways of killing or preventing you from killing. On the side I would recommend to look around but also to look up... you never know what is coming through that cyno... |
Bresker Veyne
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:40:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Bresker Veyne wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:A corp full of people with 10 k/d will beat a corp full of people with 2.0 K/D. Teamwork doesn't mean **** when the other team is redlining you.
LoL vs T-C?
Killers>circle holders. We know it because we have tested it. Ahahaha, 'killers' vs 'circle holders'. We got a bad ass over here! You mean you actually use the R1 button that's too extreme for me! Damn, I'd better stay away from you before I get hurt! We can all safely say: Good teamwork with decent skills beats a bunch of uncoordinated killwhores any day. It sounds like I struck a nerve with some of you circle holders that can't kill. We tested it on mag. We played circle holders vs elite killers. The elite killers won with great teamwork. Just because someone is good at killing doesn't mean they are bad at teamwork. That is so ignorant its not even funny.
Oh ****! Don't hurt me! I just haven't explored the upper parts of my controller yet! Have mercy!
These 'elite killers' sure sound really menacing. I'd probably have to turn off my ps3 if I ever see them! |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:44:00 -
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Bresker Veyne wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Bresker Veyne wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:A corp full of people with 10 k/d will beat a corp full of people with 2.0 K/D. Teamwork doesn't mean **** when the other team is redlining you.
LoL vs T-C?
Killers>circle holders. We know it because we have tested it. Ahahaha, 'killers' vs 'circle holders'. We got a bad ass over here! You mean you actually use the R1 button that's too extreme for me! Damn, I'd better stay away from you before I get hurt! We can all safely say: Good teamwork with decent skills beats a bunch of uncoordinated killwhores any day. It sounds like I struck a nerve with some of you circle holders that can't kill. We tested it on mag. We played circle holders vs elite killers. The elite killers won with great teamwork. Just because someone is good at killing doesn't mean they are bad at teamwork. That is so ignorant its not even funny. Oh ****! Don't hurt me! I just haven't explored the upper parts of my controller yet! Have mercy! These 'elite killers' sure sound really menacing. I'd probably have to turn off my ps3 if I ever see them! Congratulations, you missed the point.
Elite killers with teamwork>circle holders with teamwork. |
Bresker Veyne
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:49:00 -
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No man, I don't miss the point. The team with the most skilled players will get more victories because they're able to kill the other team before they're able to start capturing.
It's just, you take it so seriously! 'Elite killers' and 'circle holders', come on man, take it easy. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:53:00 -
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When I'm hacking C, I'm sorry, but I'd rather have someone with a good K/D watching my back. They're more likely to not let me die.
But when I have 2 teammates going up against 6+ enemies, I'm pretty sure they'd rather have my 0.33 K/D repairing them than the extra hand on "gun game" duty. I'm more likely to not let them die. |
Wulf Marinus
8
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:59:00 -
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Most "elite killers" are all the most egotistical, annoying, raging, whining, bitchy players. Good kdr or not, they are annoying to play with. |
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Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:02:00 -
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Bresker Veyne wrote:No man, I don't miss the point. The team with the most skilled players will get more victories because they're able to kill the other team before they're able to start capturing.
It's just, you take it so seriously! 'Elite killers' and 'circle holders', come on man, take it easy. I am taking it easy. I'm actually sitting back drinking right now and in a pretty good mood.
Sorry I am a nerd. http://youtu.be/gZEdDMQZaCU |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:07:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:When I'm hacking C, I'm sorry, but I'd rather have someone with a good K/D watching my back. They're more likely to not let me die.
But when I have 2 teammates going up against 6+ enemies, I'm pretty sure they'd rather have my 0.33 K/D repairing them than the extra hand on "gun game" duty. I'm more likely to not let them die.
It's understandable to want someone who "may" prove to be beneficial for certain areas, but the problem in relying on someone especially say someone with a much higher kill to death ratio then is "normal" is that you cannot rely on them. More often then not those are the same people whom will let you down then not. Why? Because, they are too worried and fictitious. Only concerned with fowarding their own goals rather then the objective set. Also most people with an above kill to death ratio of one to two over one (1/2:1 or 1/2 to 1) or even less are more likely to be just as effective in combat then most self gratified egonauts. Why? Because, it is a flawed statistic that has been proven to be not only false, but inflatable. Do not assume that the person on your team with say a one point five or less kill to death ratio is not just as affective or more in combat then the person with an over inflated statistic is. Infact by record it only proves in most cases that they are only effective when a certain number of variables are in their favor.
Point is do not under estimate someone else with a lower stat. You just may be surprised. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:12:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:When I'm hacking C, I'm sorry, but I'd rather have someone with a good K/D watching my back. They're more likely to not let me die.
But when I have 2 teammates going up against 6+ enemies, I'm pretty sure they'd rather have my 0.33 K/D repairing them than the extra hand on "gun game" duty. I'm more likely to not let them die. It's understandable to want someone who "may" prove to be beneficial for certain areas, but the problem in relying on someone especially say someone with a much higher kill to death ratio then is "normal" is that you cannot rely on them. More often then not those are the same people whom will let you down then not. Why? Because, they are too worried and fictitious. Only concerned with fowarding their own goals rather then the objective set. Also most people with an above kill to death ratio of one to two over one (1/2:1 or 1/2 to 1) or even less are more likely to be just as effective in combat then most self gratified egonauts. Why? Because, it is a flawed statistic that has been proven to be not only false, but inflatable. Do not assume that the person on your team with say a one point five or less kill to death ratio is not just as affective or more in combat then the person with an over inflated statistic is. Infact by record it only proves in most cases that they are only effective when a certain number of variables are in their favor. Point is do not under estimate someone else with a lower stat. You just may be surprised. Which is why I said "more likely" rather than being confident about it.
I know very well that low-K/D players can be good at gun game - I'm not great, but I'm not as bad as my stats imply, because I spend more time running support than direct combat. |
Shadoe Wolf
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:16:00 -
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A lot of the threads I see like this seems to end up going something like this: Mag players are gods to FPS. I'm sure many of you are very skilled. I do appreciate good run and gun skill. Wish I was better at it myself. I will probably never have anything higher than 3.0 k/d ratio. I have seen some really good gun skills, myself being at the receiving end most of the time. But camping on a building with a fully loaded sagaris missile launcher pointing at spawn points does not count as skill. Now I see how some get that high k/d ratio. I get redlining, camping, and many other tactics. But that tactic is just being a....well, I will be nice. I would rather die 20 times to a skilled playerthan someone camping you with literally 0 way out. I will not quit the much, just find a way to prevent you from whoriing more kills. By the way, this particular match had 3 missile sagaris. Before said camp, I did happen to get 1 up link dwowm and just waited things out.
OK, I had to get my rant in. But I really don't understand why this, my epeen is bigger than yours, type of thing is going on in a beta. I've ben in a few betas, and yes, there is a certain amount of this type of thing that goes on. But this is crazy. I enjoy getting to play during this beta. But this whole, I have to carry my team, really absurb, especially since these are random groups, some of which contain new players, or others that don't get to play much and have gained little sp because of it. Worry about all this at launch, when this type of thing matters. Then brag about k/d ratio, or whatever makes you feel warm and tingly.
That being said, hope to see everyone in game, and keep on enjoying bug hunting! |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:21:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:When I'm hacking C, I'm sorry, but I'd rather have someone with a good K/D watching my back. They're more likely to not let me die.
But when I have 2 teammates going up against 6+ enemies, I'm pretty sure they'd rather have my 0.33 K/D repairing them than the extra hand on "gun game" duty. I'm more likely to not let them die. It's understandable to want someone who "may" prove to be beneficial for certain areas, but the problem in relying on someone especially say someone with a much higher kill to death ratio then is "normal" is that you cannot rely on them. More often then not those are the same people whom will let you down then not. Why? Because, they are too worried and fictitious. Only concerned with fowarding their own goals rather then the objective set. Also most people with an above kill to death ratio of one to two over one (1/2:1 or 1/2 to 1) or even less are more likely to be just as effective in combat then most self gratified egonauts. Why? Because, it is a flawed statistic that has been proven to be not only false, but inflatable. Do not assume that the person on your team with say a one point five or less kill to death ratio is not just as affective or more in combat then the person with an over inflated statistic is. Infact by record it only proves in most cases that they are only effective when a certain number of variables are in their favor. Point is do not under estimate someone else with a lower stat. You just may be surprised. it is not hard to kill and heal. Next build I am going to run logi and get a crazy kdr. I would much rather have a 5 kd logi next to me then a 1 kd logi guy. Just because someone has a really good K/d does not mean they are all tryhards who only play for themselves. If I remember correctly thats why the OP started this thread. |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:36:00 -
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The original poster did not really come as such though. Infact after reading the thread it came off quite the opposite. If that his not case then he needs to clarify as such, and stop coming off more as the fictitious type. Because, nothing will hurt a cause or message more then a communication error between those you are trying to reach. I've said what I had to though. I cannot and will not force people to see the folly of relying on a statistic that is flawed, and broken. I'll personally let their actions speak for them. What I do know though is that that even if he is one of the few he is just that minority of a minority. An even smaller group of people in a small group of people whom are soley in it for themselves and their goals then the team, and objective.
I really hope he is part of the extremely small issolated group that wants to prove they exsist. If so I apologise on my own behalf, but what I still said has merit and truth. I would much rather trust the person or persons next to me whom have are more team oriented then a person who is more statistic oriented with meeting their own agenda. Simple as that. |
CaW PHoNOi
Doomheim
7
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:13:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:Many of the best "killers" just whine and cry about vehicles and turrets and leave when they see them. As for the rare few that do have a 10+ KDR and don't quit every time they see a tank, well... they can't be everywhere at once, can they?
I know what you mean, I saw Mr. IMA LEET get his ass handed to him and pushed back to the red zone. Needless to say he didnt stick around.
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Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
81
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:42:00 -
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id rather play with the guy who places a clever drop uplink than with the lone wolf on a 40/1 killing spree
i really suck with the DS3 but manage to get a half decent income from drop uplinks and from booby trapping A or B (need moar hiding spots at C plx). the day i killed protoman twice was a good day :O
the best team however will consist of players who do both and are actually some nice guys |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:45:00 -
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This thread is dumb and full of dumb people who are arguing about dumb things |
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