Dead's Lackey
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:51:00 -
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Ancaris Tenarre wrote:Dear EVE players,
I'm a newcomer to the DUST/EVE universe and up until today knew next to nothing about how **** goes down in New Eden. Well, I finally decided to do some research, and holy balls, I've only just started to scratch the surface and already I'm alarmed by the amount of piracy, scamming, and general ass-hattery that seems to go on in it.
So basically, I have a two-part question:
1) Is EVE really as ruthless and unforgiving as it seems?
2) If so, what does this mean for DUST? Has CCP mentioned trying to tone down some of those aspects to give less psychotic players a chance?
EDIT: Just for the record, I'm all for ruthless and unforgiving as long as it's actually used to achieve something. Cruelty for the sake of cruelty is what I'm really concerned about.
To answer your questions:
1. Yes, it is truly an unforgiving game. I played for a year, kept my cards close to the vest, and kept from being scammed or taken advantage of. However a week or so ago I let my guard down, put out a recruitment cry, and ended up being scammed out of a 2 billion isk Loki, as well as a secondary fitting for the Loki specifically for ratting. However it is how you deal with it that makes it "ruthless and unforgiving." If you send out EVE mails complaining and ranting, all that you will get is ridicule for wanting your crap back. If you go about your business, suck it up and take the hit, you will find yourself flush in no time.
Here is another example:
About three-four months into my EVE career, I was moving from Caldari Space to Amarr Space to help a friend get his corp up and running. Being relatively new to the game, I packed all out my assets in a Mammoth, and set out. While my path took me through high security space, there were several 0.5 systems along the way. Having not left Caldari Space in the four months I played, I did not know that several of the systems along my route were popular suicide ganker locations. So long story short, I was ganked. Now I had busted ass in my first four months, and when I was ganked, it was to the tune of around 8 billion isk. That is enough to cause most to commit hari-kari, but I found a new way to make isk (more profitable than Level 4 missions.) And within a week I had made that back (incursions of course), and had a wide range of assets I had never even thought about having. But I never had to deal with the "tear-collecting" of the ganker, because I didn't feed into it. And now I live in null-sec, happy as hell, having fun with my CFC bros. So in less than a year I went from newb in high-sec, to one of the so-called "baddies" of the EVE Universe.
2. I can only hope that the DUST Universe has the same level of back-stabbing, metagaming, and general sociopathic elements of the EVE Universe. Quite honestly I do not think DUST could be a part of EVE without these elements. A lot of the FPS community here on the DUST forums cannot grasp the "adapt or die" mentality of the EVE community, and as it's still in beta, that is totally understandable. But when DUST goes live, there will be friendly-fire, general standing on the fringe of a possible exploit, without fully exploiting the game, etc. There will be 0.01 isk buy orders. Quite frankly, despite the the views of others in this thread, I believe we will see emergent gameplay within the first month of DUST being live, as alliance leaders such as The Mittani, Montrolio, etc. are very good at providing the community with emergent gameplay. Take Burn Jita and Hulkageddon as examples of the popularity of these emergent events. Both pulled in thousands of ship losses, and generally made EVE a more enjoyable experience and made New Eden a more interesting place to live.
So my best advice is this:
Do not give those sociopathic elements what they want, which is your tears. If you are bested in some way, take it in stride, and go about your business. Because while you may be new to the New Eden universe, there will always be someone newer than you to take advantage of  .
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