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Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.07.25 06:17:00 -
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How many of you think the Surya is underpowered? |
Grit Breather
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.07.25 06:20:00 -
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No.
And this. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.07.25 06:40:00 -
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I'm not saying all tanks are underpowered, just the Surya. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2012.07.25 07:11:00 -
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I've seen well-fitted Suryas wipe out half a team solo.
Pretty sure it's not underpowered. |
Relyt R
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.25 07:48:00 -
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As a Surya pilot i can tell you they aren't underpowered, assuming me and another sagaris spot each other at the same time, i win every time against them (same number of gunners as well).
Surya is better at taking chunks of damage at a time, armor reps are more efficient and effective, Sagaris is more effective against steady streams of damage with its passive healing. Once damage mods for vehicles work, the Sagaris may be able to stand toe-to-toe with a Surya, until more high slot modules are introduced. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.07.25 07:58:00 -
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not to mention there will be 4 tanks, and there will be a rock paper siccoring to them in a way. Not taking into account bonuses per level, which aren't even in yet. who cares what the balance is in a beta |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.07.25 08:10:00 -
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crazy space wrote:not to mention there will be 4 tanks, and there will be a rock paper siccoring to them in a way. Not taking into account bonuses per level, which aren't even in yet. who cares what the balance is in a beta
Ah, didnt know this. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.25 08:11:00 -
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crazy, we're in the beta to find the balance. True, it doesn't have to be balanced in the beta, but CCP will be using data from the beta to balance.
Anyway, on topic. Surya isn't UP. There are times when I can blow up a surya with a few AV grenades and some help, other times when I get it halfway down and then it just reps back up.
If you catch a surya driver off-guard with AV weapons, I think that you'll manage to blow it up. Otherwise, no. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.07.25 08:14:00 -
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Laheon wrote:crazy, we're in the beta to find the balance. True, it doesn't have to be balanced in the beta, but CCP will be using data from the beta to balance.
Anyway, on topic. Surya isn't UP. There are times when I can blow up a surya with a few AV grenades and some help, other times when I get it halfway down and then it just reps back up.
If you catch a surya driver off-guard with AV weapons, I think that you'll manage to blow it up. Otherwise, no.
I think think that's whats been hppening tonight. Just me bein tired. |
Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.25 10:49:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:How many of you think the Surya is underpowered?
Yes and no.
In some ways it is, when facing a few (and I mean just a few) infantry with proto AV gear. I don't know if that is by design, or a deliberate imbalance by CCP to get more data.
Against a (top fitted) Sagaris, the equally top fitted Surya will lose most matches. IF the Surya can get oof a few shots before the Sagaris can return fire, it will most likely win, but if the Sararis get the first shot, it will win.
I'm speculating that the cause is that the Sagaris can have a top tier shield tank along with proto guns. On the Surya the rails and the armour modules compete for the same resources.
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If you DPS fit your Surya, it will kill just about anything you can hit. Even the best Sagaris. But your armour will be paper thin. |
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Needless Sacermendor
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Posted - 2012.07.25 11:05:00 -
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Yeah I think they're pretty well balanced already, they each have their benefits and faults (usually driver related mind) I have a pretty well fitted Surya and up against a well fitted Sagaris it's generally a 50/50 who's gonna win, it's usually more dependant on who's got gunners on comms to point on the primary target quicker or if one or other has support from some AV infantry hiding nearby.
Also it takes some good coordination of a few good AV infantry to take down a high end HAV, as I think it should do, this will obviously become easier to manage once grouping comes in, but it will also be easier to coordinate infantry support for your HAV so again it's fairly well balanced as it is.
With about 9 mil SP invested into my Surya, personally I'm happy with the balance .az it stands at the moment. |
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.07.25 12:01:00 -
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All tanks are underpowered. They should buff them to twice what they are, get rid of all AV and mercs should only be able to kill them with knives in gangs. |
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