DUST Search - If you really want people to take this seriously...

Seran Jinkar wrote:

I already suggested it once, but maybe I should do it again.

The whole thing should run like a Mindthread, which is similar to a Mindmap but incorporates a forum-like feature. Instead of the bulletin board style it starts with DUST as the main node, then we have nodes similar to the forums like general and Announcements, Tech and Suggestions.

Now people may start a node suggestion like "Balancing Issues of Assault Rifles" (just the title, no text). Now the other users might vote on the node to indicate the moderators that they find the topic useful or not. If the general opinion is positive towards opening up the node, or the devs like it, the node is spawned and any Tester is allowed to add his personal node to it which is exactly ONE Post where the OP and all the others can:

share their opinion
comment
suggest
report
complain

The advantage will be that the spawning of topic nodes will be controlled and slightly delayed which will stop quite a lot of ranting and trolling as there is time to cool down the tempers. Addtitionally it would stop side topics being simply overrun by ten thousands of "NERF THis !*@!-º" threads. IF a player has an opinion he can look up the existing nodes ''(which is much faster than petitioning a new node, which could always fail) and add his personal opinion which can of course be edited as an opinion may change over time. If the topics isn't there yet, the player could just start a new node suggestion.

An additional feature would be to add your personal node with a node you like/support instead of the main "Balancing Issued of Assault Rifles" node (which will show that your opinion is covered by somebody else already and you support it). Another trick would be connecting nodes with red, blue and green lines (red being a dislike, green a like and blue a neutral connection - like piloting topics of LAVs and HAVs could be neutally connected)

Similar to a mind map this would quickly show positive and negative interconnectivity

Pages: 1 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
BigBry HNK Algintal Core Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.22 22:03:00 - [1] - Quote Forums promote trolling - People post so much minutia that anyone who may want to post serious threads expect them to be buried Create a Bug/Enhancement List with statuses - If there is something to reference there won't be repeating threads about the same problem (see above) Improve your communication with the testers - The emails promote us coming on but since there isn't any way of finding out what/if anything has been improved it's just a crap shoot... List specific aspect of the game that Devs need feedback on - This will help us help you... I know there is an updates list when the game loads but the font in the game is too small and doesn't render very well so it's a waste of time for some of us to read...
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.07.22 22:16:00 - [2] - Quote they SHOULD take gw2 route and only open the servers once a month, and take down the forums inbetween.
Raynor Ragna 266	Posted - 2012.07.22 22:30:00 - [3] - Quote I approve of the Ops ideas.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 99	Posted - 2012.07.23 09:24:00 - [4] - Quote Now these are some good ideas, well done OP.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.07.23 09:44:00 - [5] - Quote BigBry HNK wrote: Forums promote trolling - People post so much minutia that anyone who may want to post serious threads expect them to be buried Create a Bug/Enhancement List with statuses - If there is something to reference there won't be repeating threads about the same problem (see above) Improve your communication with the testers - The emails promote us coming on but since there isn't any way of finding out what/if anything has been improved it's just a crap shoot... List specific aspect of the game that Devs need feedback on - This will help us help you... I know there is an updates list when the game loads but the font in the game is too small and doesn't render very well so it's a waste of time for some of us to read... Good ideas. I suggested some of those a loooooooooooong time ago. Didnt had much effect. Trolling is the main problem here. With all the morrons creating dumb **** post.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.07.23 09:45:00 - [6] - Quote BigBry HNK wrote: Forums promote trolling - People post so much minutia that anyone who may want to post serious threads expect them to be buried Create a Bug/Enhancement List with statuses - If there is something to reference there won't be repeating threads about the same problem (see above) Improve your communication with the testers - The emails promote us coming on but since there isn't any way of finding out what/if anything has been improved it's just a crap shoot... List specific aspect of the game that Devs need feedback on - This will help us help you... I know there is an updates list when the game loads but the font in the game is too small and doesn't render very well so it's a waste of time for some of us to read...
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.07.23 09:45:00 - [7] - Quote BigBry HNK wrote: Forums promote trolling - People post so much minutia that anyone who may want to post serious threads expect them to be buried Create a Bug/Enhancement List with statuses - If there is something to reference there won't be repeating threads about the same problem (see above) Improve your communication with the testers - The emails promote us coming on but since there isn't any way of finding out what/if anything has been improved it's just a crap shoot... List specific aspect of the game that Devs need feedback on - This will help us help you... I know there is an updates list when the game loads but the font in the game is too small and doesn't render very well so it's a waste of time for some of us to read...
Devil Biff Imperfects Negative-Feedback 55	Posted - 2012.07.23 11:22:00 - [8] - Quote U folks didn't know that dust 514 is actually just around so CCP can test te forums.
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.07.23 11:41:00 - [9] - Quote I already suggested it once, but maybe I should do it again. The whole thing should run like a Mindthread, which is similar to a Mindmap but incorporates a forum-like feature. Instead of the bulletin board style it starts with DUST as the main node, then we have nodes similar to the forums like general and Announcements, Tech and Suggestions. Now people may start a node suggestion like "Balancing Issues of Assault Rifles" (just the title, no text). Now the other users might vote on the node to indicate the moderators that they find the topic useful or not. If the general opinion is positive towards opening up the node, or the devs like it, the node is spawned and any Tester is allowed to add his personal node to it which is exactly ONE Post where the OP and all the others can: share their opinion comment suggest report complain The advantage will be that the spawning of topic nodes will be controlled and slightly delayed which will stop quite a lot of ranting and trolling as there is time to cool down the tempers. Addtitionally it would stop side topics being simply overrun by ten thousands of "NERF THis !*@!-º" threads. IF a player has an opinion he can look up the existing nodes ''(which is much faster than petitioning a new node, which could always fail) and add his personal opinion which can of course be edited as an opinion may change over time. If the topics isn't there yet, the player could just start a new node suggestion. An additional feature would be to add your personal node with a node you like/support instead of the main "Balancing Issued of Assault Rifles" node (which will show that your opinion is covered by somebody else already and you support it). Another trick would be connecting nodes with red, blue and green lines (red being a dislike, green a like and blue a neutral connection - like piloting topics of LAVs and HAVs could be neutally connected) Similar to a mind map this would quickly show positive and negative interconnectivity
BigBry HNK Algintal Core Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.23 12:28:00 - [10] - Quote Seran Jinkar wrote: I already suggested it once, but maybe I should do it again. The whole thing should run like a Mindthread, which is similar to a Mindmap but incorporates a forum-like feature. Instead of the bulletin board style it starts with DUST as the main node, then we have nodes similar to the forums like general and Announcements, Tech and Suggestions. Now people may start a node suggestion like "Balancing Issues of Assault Rifles" (just the title, no text). Now the other users might vote on the node to indicate the moderators that they find the topic useful or not. If the general opinion is positive towards opening up the node, or the devs like it, the node is spawned and any Tester is allowed to add his personal node to it which is exactly ONE Post where the OP and all the others can: share their opinion comment suggest report complain The advantage will be that the spawning of topic nodes will be controlled and slightly delayed which will stop quite a lot of ranting and trolling as there is time to cool down the tempers. Addtitionally it would stop side topics being simply overrun by ten thousands of "NERF THis !*@!-º" threads. IF a player has an opinion he can look up the existing nodes ''(which is much faster than petitioning a new node, which could always fail) and add his personal opinion which can of course be edited as an opinion may change over time. If the topics isn't there yet, the player could just start a new node suggestion. An additional feature would be to add your personal node with a node you like/support instead of the main "Balancing Issued of Assault Rifles" node (which will show that your opinion is covered by somebody else already and you support it). Another trick would be connecting nodes with red, blue and green lines (red being a dislike, green a like and blue a neutral connection - like piloting topics of LAVs and HAVs could be neutally connected) Similar to a mind map this would quickly show positive and negative interconnectivity Yup, this is exactly what I'm talking about... Unfortunately they haven't listened to these suggestions, and this thread is already sliding down the list cause others are posting things that are not related to actual beta testing. Sorry but this game is NOWHERE near ready to be concerned with factions/clans/corps. Give us a place where we can stay on topic and it will be effective and productive. Otherwise there will be trolling... In fact when I get out of the game and I'm pissed and frustrated because of the state of the game, I'm gonna troll!!!

Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.07.23 12:38:00 - [11] - Quote Beware of the incoming troll! ;) But seriously, this could be realised with existing Forum structures and some code lines in the posting routine to allow only one post per topic and member.
BigBry HNK Algintal Core Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.23 13:15:00 - [12] - Quote Absolutely Seran, the base capabilities of the forum application fits these needs and with some tweaks to permissions, maybe an approval workflow behind the scenes so that threads need approval before they are available for reply's and walla!!! Then they build the structures and use stickys to give the posting guidlines. Not hard, they just need to be willing to put the effort out and help us help them. Not too much to ask for...
Renzo Kuken Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 369	Posted - 2012.07.23 13:30:00 - [13] - Quote BigBry HNK wrote: Forums promote trolling - People post so much minutia that anyone who may want to post serious threads expect them to be buried Create a Bug/Enhancement List with statuses - If there is something to reference there won't be repeating threads about the same problem (see above) Improve your communication with the testers - The emails promote us coming on but since there isn't any way of finding out what/if anything has been improved it's just a crap shoot... List specific aspect of the game that Devs need feedback on - This will help us help you... I know there is an updates list when the game loads but the font in the game is too small and doesn't render very well so it's a waste of time for some of us to read... hey i amstill waiting on what games you helped develop Mr Dev
BigBry HNK Algintal Core Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.23 13:36:00 - [14] - Quote Renzo Kuken wrote: hey i amstill waiting on what games you helped develop Mr Dev ^ Add posts like this to line #1 ^ I am TRYING to be productive, not feed the idiots. BTW, I never said game dev... Game devs are but an EXTREMELY small segment of application development so **** off.
Renzo Kuken Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 369	Posted - 2012.07.23 13:44:00 - [15] - Quote BigBry HNK wrote: Renzo Kuken wrote: hey i amstill waiting on what games you helped develop Mr Dev ^ Add posts like this to line #1 ^ I am TRYING to be productive, not feed the idiots. BTW, I never said game dev... Game devs are but an EXTREMELY small segment of application development so **** off. ok then what do you develop since you are a dev by trade? and i dont need you to give me the time of day i have a clock on my laptop cell phone pc car and kitchen stove
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.07.23 14:02:00 - [16] - Quote Well I for my case do develop solutions for environmental engineering purposes to fill the needs that I sometimes find in my job.
BigBry HNK Algintal Core Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.23 14:08:00 - [17] - Quote Seran Jinkar wrote: Well I for my case do develop solutions for environmental engineering purposes to fill the needs that I sometimes find in my job. I develop Enterprise Solutions for one of the largest transportation companies in the US... The standards I have to follow is MUCH higher and heavily regulated than any game company will ever be or have to be. Now please stop turning this into a trolling war or that is all I will do instead of trying to be productive.
Bresker Veyne Algintal Core Gallente Federation 152	Posted - 2012.07.23 14:31:00 - [18] - Quote Sounds like a good idea! The point of a beta is to give feedback to the creators, not cry like little babies on their forums.
BigBry HNK Algintal Core Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.23 20:52:00 - [19] - Quote Get it back up top since it appears that the GM & DEVs are looking past or ignoring the thread... This is why some of us troll, the only threads that get attention seem to be trolling and ass kissing.
Vaas Edi SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 10	Posted - 2012.07.23 21:26:00 - [20] - Quote +1

BigBry HNK Algintal Core Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.24 00:22:00 - [21] - Quote Wow... I guess when faced with a good idea that requires them to do something they would rather ignore the thread. The only reason they provide the forum must be so we can kiss their asses and tell them they have a good product. Unfortunately I won't and they don't so why should I or anyone else waste our time here.
Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.07.24 02:31:00 - [22] - Quote BigBry HNK wrote: Forums promote trolling - People post so much minutia that anyone who may want to post serious threads expect them to be buried Create a Bug/Enhancement List with statuses - If there is something to reference there won't be repeating threads about the same problem (see above) Improve your communication with the testers - The emails promote us coming on but since there isn't any way of finding out what/if anything has been improved it's just a crap shoot... List specific aspect of the game that Devs need feedback on - This will help us help you... I know there is an updates list when the game loads but the font in the game is too small and doesn't render very well so it's a waste of time for some of us to read... Good constructive ideas. This is exactly the kind of discussions we need here on the forums. I agree with 2 and 3 but. Think 4 might get people too focused and cause some outlying issues to be missed.
Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.07.24 02:32:00 - [23] - Quote BigBry HNK wrote: Wow... I guess when faced with a good idea that requires them to do something they would rather ignore the thread. The only reason they provide the forum must be so we can kiss their asses and tell them they have a good product. Unfortunately I won't and they don't so why should I or anyone else waste our time here. And you ruined it.
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.07.24 05:37:00 - [24] - Quote Concerning the effort it is (as already stated) just a duplicate of this forum with limited posting rights and a daily or hourly check of upcoming topic suggestions.
carl von oppenheimer Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.07.24 05:44:00 - [25] - Quote These forums are also here with all their drap postings to build us a community for DUST, besides that DEVS do read these forums even if they don't post.
Sub Urban Hero ZionTCD Legacy Rising 28	Posted - 2012.07.24 05:45:00 - [26] - Quote Both OP and "mind thread" idea is awesome. I'm all for streamlining and simplifying.
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.07.24 08:01:00 - [27] - Quote carl von oppenheimer wrote: These forums are also here with all their drap postings to build us a community for DUST, besides that DEVS do read these forums even if they don't post. That's right. The Forum is for community purposes which of course include rants and trolling and all the other stuff. But a seperate way of streamlining the thoughts of the community and the Devs would be making it easier to keep track of everything.
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.07.25 10:52:00 - [28] - Quote Maybe there is somebody with an urge to create a test version of this on an own server? Or does somebody know a free forum hosting service that allows this kind of user rights?


Pages: 1 :: [one page]