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Sephoran Griffith
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:19:00 -
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So does anyone know if BPOs will be sold for AUR? I am using Aur for disposables because after Beta we get it all back, but after release I want to buy BPOs with AUR. What do you guys think about this. Anyone have any info on if BPOs will be in the AUR shop? |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 13:14:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:I doubt it. CCP keep saying AUR will not be used to win. Dust is not a pay-to-win type of game. BPOs should only be prices in ISK. That's the only way to maintain balance. I think BPO items to customize your character...IE "Appearance" items or possible AUR items that you can just get a little earlier than their ISK counterparts is fine.
What is the point of AUR if not for BPOs? CCP will want people to spend some money on this game and I think BPOs will be one of the best ways to do so. I don't see a BPO as "Pay to Win" it might just mean that I don't have to buy multiples of a specific drop suit. I don't want o spend a bunch of Aur to get the cooler "designed" dropsuits, just to lose that identity when I run out of AUR |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 13:15:00 -
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Sephoran Griffith wrote:Grit Breather wrote:I doubt it. CCP keep saying AUR will not be used to win. Dust is not a pay-to-win type of game. BPOs should only be prices in ISK. That's the only way to maintain balance. I think BPO items to customize your character...IE "Appearance" items or possible AUR items that you can just get a little earlier than their ISK counterparts is fine. What is the point of AUR if not for BPOs? CCP will want people to spend some money on this game and I think BPOs will be one of the best ways to do so. I don't see a BPO as "Pay to Win" it might just mean that I don't have to buy multiples of a specific drop suit. I don't want o spend a bunch of Aur to get the cooler "designed" dropsuits, just to lose that identity when I run out of AUR
EDIT: There are already examples of this with the items we got in the Mercenary Pack. Why does it not make sense to continue this in the AUR market? |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 13:24:00 -
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Superluminal Replicant wrote:Im planning to only use Aurum for the skill booster, or the game will become like every other "Free" to play game I have ever played. Buying the skill booster each week for me is like paying a sub and im fine with that. I guess if there were BPO that I would get a lot of use out of I would buy it with aurum.
What I'd really like to see is maybe a "paint shop" type location/service available where you could pay a few AUR to customize some category of drop suit so that you could make something along the lines of "corporation uniforms" or even just have a color that you liked. |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 13:38:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Ok, you've made some good points which have made me think more.
As I see it now, there are two types of BPOs (at least theoretically. I'll get to that). The first kind is a BPO for ISK gear. That should only be buyable through ISK. The reason being that I don't want anyone spoiling the game for anyone else. While most people won't spend hundreds of $$$ to buy AUR, some will. This will give them a huge advantage as they will have access to an infinate supply of ISK gear. This would be unfair to everyone else.
The second kind is a BPO for AUR gear. This has the same type of concept for me and should only be purchasable using AUR. I don't see how the game mechanics would survive a player buying an AUR BPO with ISK (maybe from an EVE ISK transfer) and then being able to dominate the field with stronger gear that requires less skill. Now what did I mean by "theortically"? I mean there's no concievable way CCP would allow you to bypass the AUR system by buying AUR gear BPOs using ISK. That would cause them to lose real money. If they did, they would also have to address negative AUR when you start producing this AUR gear in large numbers and want to sell it off to other players. This would basically allow you to use ISK to gain real $$$ from witnin the game. The only other game I know of that allows this is Second Life. And that's built around the option of doing this exactly. They even have an official exchange rate between in-game credits (can't remember the name) and $$$.
So I still don't think you should be able to buy BPOs with AUR. Neither type.
Disclaimer: When I say something is unfair in this context, I don't mean the regular forum unfair cries when a proto suit gets killed by a militia AR. I mean unfair as in it breaks the game mechanics and gives real life resources power over in-game resources.
What if AUR BPO were not able to be used to create BPCs for sale, but just for the individual use of the person who bought them, and if they had no distinct advantages over ISK gear except for the ability to customize the appearance? |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 13:40:00 -
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Does my Merc Pack Scout suit BPO or the Skinweave Logi BPO we are all getting break the balance of the game? What about the SMG BPO that came with the merc pack? Just looking for opinions on this. |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 13:47:00 -
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Deskalkulos Ildigan wrote:Sephoran Griffith wrote:Sephoran Griffith wrote:Grit Breather wrote:I doubt it. CCP keep saying AUR will not be used to win. Dust is not a pay-to-win type of game. BPOs should only be prices in ISK. That's the only way to maintain balance. I think BPO items to customize your character...IE "Appearance" items or possible AUR items that you can just get a little earlier than their ISK counterparts is fine. What is the point of AUR if not for BPOs? CCP will want people to spend some money on this game and I think BPOs will be one of the best ways to do so. I don't see a BPO as "Pay to Win" it might just mean that I don't have to buy multiples of a specific drop suit. I don't want o spend a bunch of Aur to get the cooler "designed" dropsuits, just to lose that identity when I run out of AUR EDIT: There are already examples of this with the items we got in the Mercenary Pack. Why does it not make sense to continue this in the AUR market? You did not pay for the dragonfly suit. You paid for the AUR. Everything else where freebies to increase the attractivity. Well lets see why you shouldn't be able to buy BPO's using AUR. 1. Income: If you can buy BPOs you wont have to buy them ever again, this means you won't have to buy AUR again for said stuff. 2. ISK: If all your Gear consists of high level (lets say prototype level) BPOs you wont have to pay for your daily equipment. this alone brings multiple problems with it. --You will get careless, as your equipment is not in danger --You can fight in as many fights as you want no matter how costly they are to "normal" users who buy their equip with isk --You will gather a shitton of Money, which means you can buy tanks (for example) much faster and more often than others who have to rebuy their fits. i think 2nd would fall under p2w, as you get an obvious advantage (no financial risk involved when fighting in nullsec in your daily gear) it also would lead into some people turning the game into yet another battlefield where you can use your fit as much as you want without restrictions (except skills, but guess who would have no problem buying new skillbooks). Isn't number 2 possible using Militia Gear? |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 14:33:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Other than purely cosmetic variations of ISK items, or a previously-suggested idea of having"repaint" BPO equips that can be purchased with AUR and fitted into "appearance mod" slots on your suits/vehicles, I'm saying PLEASE no AUR BPOs. That would be a TERRIBLE idea.
Actually, another option that wouldn't be as terrible an idea as having AUR BPOs that aren't Militia-grade items. AUR BPOs for gear that's WORSE than the Militia stuff. But nobody would buy it,
And with the Dragonfly, at least, it's clearly only a half-step between the Militia Scout suit and the weakest ISK gear. The Logi suit and any other beta-exclusive BPOs will almost certainly be on a similar level to that. It's an upgrade from the Militia gear, but not by enough to even match the cheapest BPC equivalent.
Yes, my main goal is to get some Permanent cosmetic items that I can use with any fitting, as much as I want. I don't want anything that makes it worse/better than any other...just permanent ability to customize. I don't want to have to rebuy my "insert custom color here" modifier thousands of times.
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Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 15:02:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Great. Just what we all needed. People running around in permanent pink suits. Maybe they should also have bunny modules so they can add fluffy tails and long ears.
They will be easier for you to shoot at, No? |
Sephoran Griffith
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.17 15:37:00 -
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Anatoly Gasputin wrote:The suggested 'pay for style' would also give corporations a chance to create their own 'warpaint'. That would be something I would like to see, even if there were pink heavyguys, they paid for it.
Yep, whether you use yours to be pink, neon green, or just to make your corporate uniform. I'd like to see this ability across vehicles, dropsuis, maybe even Corporation owned structures once we can do those. |
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