DUST Search - LAV turrets need a buff

Zekain Kade wrote:

The dark cloud wrote:

LAV underpowered?Forge gun 1 hit kill? Turrets to weak? Dont force me to get my high modified Saga with a missile launcher out. The Shield is on about 2400 and with that i can survive easy a forgegun hit and then run off fast. assault rifle fire doesnt bother me aswell. Most of the time im the driver and pick up a guy as the gunner. After that i attack the objectives fast and let my LAV in a perfect position so that the gunner can instant kill people that just spawned. Once i got lucky and survived a direct Sagaris hit and escaped. Also when i see a tank i chase it and when it turns the turret at me i usually drive away behind cover and im repeating that until the tank is destroyed. And to top this ii jump out here and there and place a drop uplink in a good spot. Looking forward to the tier 2 LAV's that have inbuild remote repair systems for supporting role.

armor is fine, turret power is fine. The turret mobility is not, it's too stiff for a LAV, it needs to move faster, you need to be able to aim up into the sky so you can counter drop ships.

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Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:25:00 - [1] - Quote So they are able to do what most HAV can't. shoot at Drop ships that are flying over them. LAV's are fast, but their turret turning speed, and arc make them probably one of the weakest vehicles in the game. Their turrets need to be able to turn faster, and be able to main at at least 70-80 degrees so they are able to attack drop ships that are flying over. it would help in balancing out the vehicle triangle system that we currently have. LAVS > Dropships Dropships > HAV's HAVs >LAV's. Now I'm not saying that a LAV should be able to dominate a drop ship, all I'm saying is that it SHOULD have an easier time in attacking it, compared to a slow, bulky tank. Also, give turret users on LAVs a 3Rd person view.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 808	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:27:00 - [2] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: So they are able to do what most HAV can't. shoot at Drop ships that are flying over them. LAV's are fast, but their turret turning speed, and arc make them probably one of the weakest vehicles in the game. Their turrets need to be able to turn faster, and be able to main at at least 70-80 degrees so they are are able to attack drop ships that are flying over. it would help in balancing out the vehicle triangle system that we currently have. LAVS > Dropships Dropships > HAV's HAVs >LAV's. Now I'm not saying that a LAV should be able to dominate a drop ship, all I'm saying is that it SHOULD have an easier time in attacking it, compared to a slow, bulky tank. ...but LAVS arent better than dropships.......fighters are and swarms are.....
Angely Unomahar Algintal Core Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:28:00 - [3] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: LAV's are fast, but their turret turning speed, and arc make them probably one of the weakest vehicles in the game.. LAV's just the better way to get kill !! even by Militia AR !!
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:29:00 - [4] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: So they are able to do what most HAV can't. shoot at Drop ships that are flying over them. LAV's are fast, but their turret turning speed, and arc make them probably one of the weakest vehicles in the game. Their turrets need to be able to turn faster, and be able to main at at least 70-80 degrees so they are are able to attack drop ships that are flying over. it would help in balancing out the vehicle triangle system that we currently have. LAVS > Dropships Dropships > HAV's HAVs >LAV's. Now I'm not saying that a LAV should be able to dominate a drop ship, all I'm saying is that it SHOULD have an easier time in attacking it, compared to a slow, bulky tank. ...but LAVS arent better than dropships.......fighters are and swarms are..... I'm not saying that they are better, I'm saying that they should be able to actually shoot things that are in the air. Give people the ability to create Anti air jeeps.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:30:00 - [5] - Quote Angely Unomahar wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: LAV's are fast, but their turret turning speed, and arc make them probably one of the weakest vehicles in the game.. LAV's just the better way to get kill !! even by Militia AR !! LAV's are built to be anti infantry vehicles, but they can't even fulfill that task. they need a buff, not in armor, but turret mobility.
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:31:00 - [6] - Quote People shoot out of their LAV's? screw that, I'm gonna run people over
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:33:00 - [7] - Quote PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE wrote: People shoot out of their LAV's? screw that, I'm gonna run people over See? the turret is useless as it is now, it needs an overhaul.
Nellantar Ballsinya Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 175	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:34:00 - [8] - Quote I've seen a few LAV's that take more than one forge gun shot. It's a lot like seeing an angry bear that's charging you and shooting it, thinking it will die. It doesn't die though. It just gets angry and smashes you.
Sub Urban Hero ZionTCD Legacy Rising 28	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:40:00 - [9] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: So they are able to do what most HAV can't. shoot at Drop ships that are flying over them. LAV's are fast, but their turret turning speed, and arc make them probably one of the weakest vehicles in the game. Their turrets need to be able to turn faster, and be able to main at at least 70-80 degrees so they are able to attack drop ships that are flying over. it would help in balancing out the vehicle triangle system that we currently have. LAVS > Dropships Dropships > HAV's HAVs >LAV's. Now I'm not saying that a LAV should be able to dominate a drop ship, all I'm saying is that it SHOULD have an easier time in attacking it, compared to a slow, bulky tank. Also, give turret users on LAVs a 3Rd person view. What this guy said. As is, LAVs are just about useless other than as a way to get around faster or running people over. The turret by itself is kinda underpowered and without being able to track targets effectively, becomes almost useless. That being said, I don't think the LAVs should have an easy time getting rid of drop ships- but it should be able to effectively fill an anti-infantry/infantry support role.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.16 20:56:00 - [10] - Quote CCP must change the LAV so it can actually do it's job properly.

The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.07.16 21:13:00 - [11] - Quote LAV underpowered?Forge gun 1 hit kill? Turrets to weak? Dont force me to get my high modified Saga with a missile launcher out. The Shield is on about 2400 and with that i can survive easy a forgegun hit and then run off fast. assault rifle fire doesnt bother me aswell. Most of the time im the driver and pick up a guy as the gunner. After that i attack the objectives fast and let my LAV in a perfect position so that the gunner can instant kill people that just spawned. Once i got lucky and survived a direct Sagaris hit and escaped. Also when i see a tank i chase it and when it turns the turret at me i usually drive away behind cover and im repeating that until the tank is destroyed. And to top this ii jump out here and there and place a drop uplink in a good spot. Looking forward to the tier 2 LAV's that have inbuild remote repair systems for supporting role.
PEEEEEEETREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 781	Posted - 2012.07.16 21:15:00 - [12] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: LAV underpowered?Forge gun 1 hit kill? Turrets to weak? Dont force me to get my high modified Saga with a missile launcher out. The Shield is on about 2400 and with that i can survive easy a forgegun hit and then run off fast. assault rifle fire doesnt bother me aswell. Most of the time im the driver and pick up a guy as the gunner. After that i attack the objectives fast and let my LAV in a perfect position so that the gunner can instant kill people that just spawned. Once i got lucky and survived a direct Sagaris hit and escaped. Also when i see a tank i chase it and when it turns the turret at me i usually drive away behind cover and im repeating that until the tank is destroyed. And to top this ii jump out here and there and place a drop uplink in a good spot. Looking forward to the tier 2 LAV's that have inbuild remote repair systems for supporting role. I need to put a cow catcher on the front of my LAV. Fat clones are slowing me down.
Leovarian L Lavitz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 278	Posted - 2012.07.16 21:45:00 - [13] - Quote If the passenger could use his weapons, the lav would instantly become a far more useful vehicle, you could be a very mobile swarm platform, or could be a far more effective anti-infantry platform with an ar or mass driver guy there. Heavy weapons don't really seem to fit, though. :/
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.16 22:18:00 - [14] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: LAV underpowered?Forge gun 1 hit kill? Turrets to weak? Dont force me to get my high modified Saga with a missile launcher out. The Shield is on about 2400 and with that i can survive easy a forgegun hit and then run off fast. assault rifle fire doesnt bother me aswell. Most of the time im the driver and pick up a guy as the gunner. After that i attack the objectives fast and let my LAV in a perfect position so that the gunner can instant kill people that just spawned. Once i got lucky and survived a direct Sagaris hit and escaped. Also when i see a tank i chase it and when it turns the turret at me i usually drive away behind cover and im repeating that until the tank is destroyed. And to top this ii jump out here and there and place a drop uplink in a good spot. Looking forward to the tier 2 LAV's that have inbuild remote repair systems for supporting role. armor is fine, turret power is fine. The turret mobility is not, it's too stiff for a LAV, it needs to move faster, you need to be able to aim up into the sky so you can counter drop ships.
Roldrage Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 49	Posted - 2012.07.16 22:25:00 - [15] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: The dark cloud wrote: LAV underpowered?Forge gun 1 hit kill? Turrets to weak? Dont force me to get my high modified Saga with a missile launcher out. The Shield is on about 2400 and with that i can survive easy a forgegun hit and then run off fast. assault rifle fire doesnt bother me aswell. Most of the time im the driver and pick up a guy as the gunner. After that i attack the objectives fast and let my LAV in a perfect position so that the gunner can instant kill people that just spawned. Once i got lucky and survived a direct Sagaris hit and escaped. Also when i see a tank i chase it and when it turns the turret at me i usually drive away behind cover and im repeating that until the tank is destroyed. And to top this ii jump out here and there and place a drop uplink in a good spot. Looking forward to the tier 2 LAV's that have inbuild remote repair systems for supporting role. armor is fine, turret power is fine. The turret mobility is not, it's too stiff for a LAV, it needs to move faster, you need to be able to aim up into the sky so you can counter drop ships. Agreed, what's the point of epic speed if your gunner is slower than molasses?
Umallon Macross Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 281	Posted - 2012.07.17 02:40:00 - [16] - Quote No one even gets in my Saga XT. I blast around the map, capping objectives and MRUs, running down poor mercs, frustrating tanks, with no one to keep me company. LAV. Forever Alone.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.17 15:28:00 - [17] - Quote i wont let this thread die, the LAV turret needs a buff.
Zev Caldari Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 94	Posted - 2012.07.17 16:09:00 - [18] - Quote Umallon Macross wrote: No one even gets in my Saga XT. I blast around the map, capping objectives and MRUs, running down poor mercs, frustrating tanks, with no one to keep me company. LAV. Forever Alone. True story. I have an armor tanked LAV that can take a forge gun hit (just 1 for now, sadly) and I can never get a gunner. Ever. I agree that the passenger should be able to use their weapon(s) and if you have no turret equipped the back user should be able to use them too. "Oh I'm sitting in an open air vehicle, weapons? No way." I don't think so. I find the turrets turn a bit to slow but not too bad, my main qualm is the arc of the main turret. I agree it should be able to angle higher.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.17 18:48:00 - [19] - Quote I really want a dev to post so that I know that this thread got through to them.
Etero Narciss Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 112	Posted - 2012.07.17 18:57:00 - [20] - Quote The LAVs don't need a buff so much as they need to HIT WHAT I AM SHOOTING AT SWEET JESUS! When I can't fire a turret on the move and rely on it to be at least a little accurate, there's a problem. For hilarious examples use Missile Launcher and Blaster Turrets (rail-what? Rail Guns? Don't speak nonsense).

Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:43:00 - [21] - Quote Can i please get a dev to post in this thread so that i know for sure that they saw it?
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2012.07.18 04:15:00 - [22] - Quote I pull up with my balling shiny rims, and be like "eh babeh get in my car. " They are reluctant at first put pull my LAV to a creep and cruise slowly beside them. It finally gets awkward and they jump in. Then they hop in, and I'm all like " WHO SAID YOU CAN SIT IN THE FRONT?!??" They promptly get in the back. We drive around, but it turns out I've been drinking too much quafe. After getting a fender bender from hitting a heavy, I keep up my wreck less ways. I end up crashing into a light post. My clone flies out the turret and wraps around the pole. I jumped out in time. I see the smoldering wreck and can hear 5-0 coming. I run to the nearest resupply and switch clone suits so no one will be able to identify me. I order another LAV and start this process again. Edit: All without insurance.


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