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Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.03 20:20:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You guys have no idea what a true skill ranking system is. if you knew what it was, and how successful it actually is, you would want it in this game too. rank 1-10 players will fight other rank 1-10 players, while rank 45-50 players will fight other 45-50 players. Everyone will be matched with other players of equal skill, and the only way to get a better rank is to win. A true skill system would make it fair for everyone. Protoman would be match up with other players of equal skill, rather then being thrown into a game full of new players. You would all be matched up with other players of equal skill.This has nothing to do with skill points, you guys are idiots. it fells like I'm talking to a brick wall at times. IR Scifi wrote:If there isn't some kind of massive "export to a spreadsheet" style data-dump when everything goes live I'll be sorely disappointed. It's not just your K/D ratio, it's how much isk you spent, how much you made the other guy lose, how often were you able to hold the objective, and a whole lot more.
I mean sure I died six times in my militia gear BUT I made you die two times in your prototype gear. Which one of us is more successful? The guy with the proto gear because he killed off more clones on your team, putting your team in the losing position. People pay attention to the bolded part and how its meant for gladiator arenas and how it can also be applied for regular hisec games no competitive player wants to stomp nubs all day gladiator arenas are supposed to be CCPs expansion for the eSports/competitive community if u dont play clan wars or not competitive u should have 0 say on how gladiator arenas should be done when they get around to it just pointing this out there cuz alot of casuals on these forums and they dont need to be ruining what would essentially be used for the DUST alliance tournaments to be full of pubstar crap
I agree. I'm not opposed to having a matching system that matches players of similar skill. BUT this should only apply to a gladiator arena "if" that ever gets implemented in dust. For the day-to-day battle-for-the-planet, I don't think it has a place as every merc corp is going to want to bring the "very best" they got to the field. |
Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.07.03 20:35:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Jin J'Rayle wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:You guys have no idea what a true skill ranking system is. if you knew what it was, and how successful it actually is, you would want it in this game too. rank 1-10 players will fight other rank 1-10 players, while rank 45-50 players will fight other 45-50 players. Everyone will be matched with other players of equal skill, and the only way to get a better rank is to win. A true skill system would make it fair for everyone. Protoman would be match up with other players of equal skill, rather then being thrown into a game full of new players. You would all be matched up with other players of equal skill.This has nothing to do with skill points, you guys are idiots. it fells like I'm talking to a brick wall at times. IR Scifi wrote:If there isn't some kind of massive "export to a spreadsheet" style data-dump when everything goes live I'll be sorely disappointed. It's not just your K/D ratio, it's how much isk you spent, how much you made the other guy lose, how often were you able to hold the objective, and a whole lot more.
I mean sure I died six times in my militia gear BUT I made you die two times in your prototype gear. Which one of us is more successful? The guy with the proto gear because he killed off more clones on your team, putting your team in the losing position. People pay attention to the bolded part and how its meant for gladiator arenas and how it can also be applied for regular hisec games no competitive player wants to stomp nubs all day gladiator arenas are supposed to be CCPs expansion for the eSports/competitive community if u dont play clan wars or not competitive u should have 0 say on how gladiator arenas should be done when they get around to it just pointing this out there cuz alot of casuals on these forums and they dont need to be ruining what would essentially be used for the DUST alliance tournaments to be full of pubstar crap I agree. I'm not opposed to having a matching system that matches players of similar skill. BUT this should only apply to a gladiator arena "if" that ever gets implemented in dust. For the day-to-day battle-for-the-planet, I don't think it has a place as every merc corp is going to want to bring the "very best" they got to the field. No, a true skill has no place in the conquest part of this game. That's more based on who EVE players can hire to get the job down. However, EVE players may find those with high ranks in the E sports section more attractive then some random merc who only does invasions. So of you may ask me why an EVe play would ever choose an E sports merc over an invasion merc. He would choose him because is just better stat wise. Great w/l, great battle record, great KD, great SP, great everything.
I beg to differ. I would choose one player over another for not only his skill but his ability to be a team player as well as his ability to follow/give orders. And whether or not he's "good people" or if he's a total "ass-hat" I don't care how "beast" you are. |
Jin J'Rayle
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2012.07.03 20:47:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Hire the top Esports teams. you now have your self a dream team. One that works well together, has with excellent stats, and is just generally awesome.
Now look at the enemy team. The defenders are a bunch of randies with varying skill levels. Who do you think will win?
You can beg to differ all you want. The best players in the game would have reached that position for BEING THE BEST. No team of randies could ever hope to beat them.
true skill can go into E sports, but be left out of the actual MMO part of the game (claiming worlds and what not) But EVE corps will still look at your E sports records to see how good you are. So True skill will have an indirect effect on the other half of the game.
If you have a cohesive team, then great, no argument here.
All I'm saying is if, as a corp, we were trying to recruit members, I wouldn't be using an individual's e-sport rank as my only criteria for recruitment.
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