DUST Search - Eve Valkyrie Update: No VR Required!

One Eyed King wrote:

Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:

Coming out of a long hiatus to say I called it! You are now witnessing the official death of VR. Guarantee it's happening and this will do it. VR is an unwieldy gimmick, pure and simple. Was waiting to be able to play without VR, both because of price point and semi-severe motion sickness. Might get he kids a PS4 for Christmas so I can play this.

Right, because new technology is always cheap and perfect right out of the gate...

Horrible analysis.

Technology is always expensive when it first starts. Blu ray players were hundreds of dollars or more when they first came out. It always takes time for production costs to come down. Just because the price is high now, doesn't mean it won't be more affordable in the future.

FPS games used to give me motion sickness too when Wolfenstein first came out. Now they don't. Why? Because as people get used to developing for technology and finding ways of dealing with problems.

VR may not be a huge deal in the future, but it is far from something that fizzles out before it even gets started.

CCP logic GÇô NOVA isn't an actual product. It is only a project. We might not do it at all.

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Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1477	Posted - 2017.08.15 16:09:00 - [1] - Quote Here Actually good news for me IMO, I've been looking forward to playing this for quite sometime. Although I can't bring about my Amarrian destruction with my SCR, this will be the closest thing I'll have to CCP in a long time. I wish I could see the Empire flourish. o7 Those of you who will be playing, see you out there! PSN: (Can I put it up?) Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1729	Posted - 2017.08.15 19:50:00 - [2] - Quote Coming out of a long hiatus to say I called it! You are now witnessing the official death of VR. Guarantee it's happening and this will do it. VR is an unwieldy gimmick, pure and simple. Was waiting to be able to play without VR, both because of price point and semi-severe motion sickness. Might get he kids a PS4 for Christmas so I can play this. CCP logic GÇô NOVA isn't an actual product. It is only a project. We might not do it at all.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 10978	Posted - 2017.08.15 20:02:00 - [3] - Quote Meh. That was the only thing that made it stand out, imo. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1479	Posted - 2017.08.15 20:08:00 - [4] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Coming out of a long hiatus to say I called it! You are now witnessing the official death of VR. Guarantee it's happening and this will do it. VR is an unwieldy gimmick, pure and simple. Was waiting to be able to play without VR, both because of price point and semi-severe motion sickness. Might get he kids a PS4 for Christmas so I can play this. I wouldn't say anything is necessarily a gimmick. Everyone thought that motion controls are a gimmick, I mean initially they kind of were, but afterwards they basically got tied into VR. VR is still new technology, Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1479	Posted - 2017.08.15 20:09:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Meh. That was the only thing that made it stand out, imo. They're a struggling company, CCP. I mean not only that they have to follow the money. I mean look at these so called exclusives for the PlayStation, only to show up on the other console a year or so later. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1967	Posted - 2017.08.15 21:31:00 - [6] - Quote I find it interesting that they are going to support KB+M. Espacially since a other famous developer (Blizzard) refuses to do this on Overwatch. Ontop of that i would like to know how on earth they managed to get sony to allow cross plattform play. Previously sony was strictly against that. Its allmost like a miracle how they pulled that off. Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 10979	Posted - 2017.08.15 21:40:00 - [7] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: I find it interesting that they are going to support KB+M. Espacially since a other famous developer (Blizzard) refuses to do this on Overwatch. Ontop of that i would like to know how on earth they managed to get sony to allow cross plattform play. Previously sony was strictly against that. Its allmost like a miracle how they pulled that off. Native KB/M is a far superior scheme compared to controller. That's why Blizzard doesn't implement it on consoles. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1479	Posted - 2017.08.15 21:43:00 - [8] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: I find it interesting that they are going to support KB+M. Espacially since a other famous developer (Blizzard) refuses to do this on Overwatch. Ontop of that i would like to know how on earth they managed to get sony to allow cross plattform play. Previously sony was strictly against that. Its allmost like a miracle how they pulled that off. Same here, I was speculating that as well. I'll see if i'll get my ass handed to me come the update. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 17270	Posted - 2017.08.15 22:30:00 - [9] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Coming out of a long hiatus to say I called it! You are now witnessing the official death of VR. Guarantee it's happening and this will do it. VR is an unwieldy gimmick, pure and simple. Was waiting to be able to play without VR, both because of price point and semi-severe motion sickness. Might get he kids a PS4 for Christmas so I can play this. Right, because new technology is always cheap and perfect right out of the gate... Horrible analysis. Technology is always expensive when it first starts. Blu ray players were hundreds of dollars or more when they first came out. It always takes time for production costs to come down. Just because the price is high now, doesn't mean it won't be more affordable in the future. FPS games used to give me motion sickness too when Wolfenstein first came out. Now they don't. Why? Because as people get used to developing for technology and finding ways of dealing with problems. VR may not be a huge deal in the future, but it is far from something that fizzles out before it even gets started. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Russel Moralles Klandatu 278	Posted - 2017.08.16 12:00:00 - [10] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Here Actually good news for me IMO, I've been looking forward to playing this for quite sometime. Although I can't bring about my Amarrian destruction with my SCR, this will be the closest thing I'll have to CCP in a long time. I wish I could see the Empire flourish. o7 Those of you who will be playing, see you out there! PSN: slayerxtony Best ever info post as of my reading. See you in space brothers. For the State! OOORAH!!!

Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1479	Posted - 2017.08.16 18:39:00 - [11] - Quote Russel Moralles wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Here Actually good news for me IMO, I've been looking forward to playing this for quite sometime. Although I can't bring about my Amarrian destruction with my SCR, this will be the closest thing I'll have to CCP in a long time. I wish I could see the Empire flourish. o7 Those of you who will be playing, see you out there! PSN: slayerxtony Best ever info post as of my reading. See you in space brothers. For the State! OOORAH!!! For the Empress See you out there Dust buddy Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Songs of Seraphim CASSETTE 514 1979	Posted - 2017.08.17 00:06:00 - [12] - Quote I'll see you nerd there. PSN: Xeazlouro Achura Bloodline State Loyalist Death! By Snu-snu!
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1481	Posted - 2017.08.17 03:10:00 - [13] - Quote Songs of Seraphim wrote: I'll see you nerds there! PSN: Xeazlouro Songs!!!!!! Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Shotty GoBang Nos Nothi 4919	Posted - 2017.08.17 19:28:00 - [14] - Quote Count me in! PSN: datadevil o7
Songs of Seraphim CASSETTE 514 1980	Posted - 2017.08.18 01:40:00 - [15] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Songs of Seraphim wrote: I'll see you nerds there! PSN: Xeazlouro Songs!!!!!! Dat me lol Achura Bloodline State Loyalist Death! By Snu-snu!
Russel Moralles Klandatu 282	Posted - 2017.08.18 09:27:00 - [16] - Quote Songs of Seraphim? VS Songs of the Valkyrie! Join the Warzone EVE: VALKYRIE WARZONE
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1730	Posted - 2017.08.18 10:40:00 - [17] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Coming out of a long hiatus to say I called it! You are now witnessing the official death of VR. Guarantee it's happening and this will do it. VR is an unwieldy gimmick, pure and simple. Was waiting to be able to play without VR, both because of price point and semi-severe motion sickness. Might get he kids a PS4 for Christmas so I can play this. Right, because new technology is always cheap and perfect right out of the gate... Horrible analysis. Technology is always expensive when it first starts. Blu ray players were hundreds of dollars or more when they first came out. It always takes time for production costs to come down. Just because the price is high now, doesn't mean it won't be more affordable in the future. FPS games used to give me motion sickness too when Wolfenstein first came out. Now they don't. Why? Because as people get used to developing for technology and finding ways of dealing with problems. VR may not be a huge deal in the future, but it is far from something that fizzles out before it even gets started. It's a horrible analysis that VR is expensive for me at present costs? No, that's actually 100% accurate if I'm looking at my pocket book correctly. So what about the future price point. I get motion sick from 2D games, riding in the back of a van and Minecraft every time I play it with my kids. VR and that spinning in Valk would never be something technology could correct for that level of motion sickness. The spinning action for Valk in 2D will probably not even get better for that level of motion sickness. Just like yesteryear's gimmick of video phoning gave way to simple texting, VR is just too much of an addition and not enough necessity to game play. Actually, DUST proved that point in a big way, I think. Game play is more important and can succeed with the right programming. CCP logic GÇô NOVA isn't an actual product. It is only a project. We might not do it at all.
Russel Moralles Klandatu 282	Posted - 2017.08.18 11:00:00 - [18] - Quote this is my first vr experience, [url][img]http://i.imgur.com/L7sjkdA.jpg[/img][/url] my fav was diana prince's adventure, hehe
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones 1456	Posted - 2017.08.19 01:10:00 - [19] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Here Actually good news for me IMO, I've been looking forward to playing this for quite sometime. Although I can't bring about my Amarrian destruction with my SCR, this will be the closest thing I'll have to CCP in a long time. I wish I could see the Empire flourish. o7 Those of you who will be playing, see you out there! PSN: slayerxtony Yes, I think I will be playing this. I was always complaining that in EvE you couldn't actually really control the ships, you were more of a Captain, issuing commands through the computer, which then did all the work. The fighters on carriers were more like real piloted ships, and were supposed to be according to the lore of New Eden. Valkyrie was supposed to give players the experience of doing so, and but for the VR which I refused to have anything to do with, would have been for me. Now that CCP has finally accepted that VR is a pointless and frivolous whim of Management, the lack or requirement for VR will allow me to play it. In the absence of Dust, which in my opinion was dropped in favour of working on VR, it will be good to get back into some sort of real combat in New Eden again. EvE doesn't do that - it's too strategic, really.


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