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Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.09.23 20:46:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:So, it came up as a topic quite a few times back in the days. I just want to bring it back to nowadays, much smaller, community. I must admit, I found myself pretty much under anything it describes, almost shocking. It would be great to draw a demographic chart of those of us who are still here for no apparent reason other than just posting and discussing. Also, it would be interesing to chek if, as many says, "NT" groups are greatly over-represented in certain videogames forums. If you want to take the test https://www.16personalities.com/.My result: https://www.16personalities.com/profiles/57e5438c256b8 wrote:You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. Yeah, I'm not surprised that NTs would be overrepresented - "Intuitive Thinkers" - analytical types.
I'm an INTJ, which I've known for a very long time - some classify INTJ as "Scientist", which I certainly would agree with. Interestingly, your hobbies are generally the opposite - the opposite of INTJ is ESFP which is "Performer" and that fits, too, as in my other other life I'm a muso.
But only an NT would be analytical to that extent. ;) |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.23 20:48:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Last time I took this test I was INTP-T
Not gonna take it again because it's looooooong Do you mean INTP-J? That's usually called INTX. Means you can't make up your mind whether you want to make up your mind or sit on the fence. ;)
Edit - I see now that this version of the test gives typings which include a -A or -T at the end, which I can't get my head around. What do they mean? |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.23 20:49:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Quote:You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. This implies that there is only one right opinion... 'Nope, your opinion isn't informed enough! Think harder until you have the same opinion as me! Then you're informed!' In my opinion, there is no right opinion. Even this one. ;)
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.23 20:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:No one is entitled to be ignorant? But that's the crux of American politics... Bernie Sanders should have been there. How could people not vote for Sanders in the US? The other two, Clinton is a "meh" candidate and the other is a psycho and a danger for humanity indeed. That's it. Our votes are entirely irrelevant. He was ousted long before it even mattered. The corruption here runs very deep and it won't be changed by a few people who mean well. It's frustrating and honestly, a little terrifying. Yes, very unsettling.
No broken system is ever fixed from the inside. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.23 20:57:00 -
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Interesting. My type (INTJ) is here classified as "Architect". I've seen that one before, and it fits to an extent. I think I like "Scientist" better, but architect also works as a sort of go-between for ENTJ ("Commander") and INTJ ("Scientist").
I can't figure out what the -A and -T mean after the typing. They weren't in the original test and seem superfluous. Any insights? |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.23 22:14:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Interesting. My type (INTJ) is here classified as "Architect". I've seen that one before, and it fits to an extent. I think I like "Scientist" better, but architect also works as a sort of go-between for ENTJ ("Commander") and INTJ ("Scientist"). I can't figure out what the -A and -T mean after the typing. They weren't in the original test and seem superfluous. Any insights? And I've just concluded the test must be wrong. I looked "strengths and weaknesses". INTJs don't have weaknesses. One of the weaknesses that INTJs are supposed to have is "arrogance". Pfffft. ;) Since when arrogance is a weakness? Edit: I just found out that -A and -T has something to do with self-confidence and refers to the the Assertive and Turbolent trait. source https://www.16personalities.com/articles/our-theory Of course arrogance is a strength! Who wrote this? :)
So the -A and -T are actually extraneous to the Meyers Briggs test. I really prefer to stick to the original tests with this sort of thing - all sorts of people come along and add to them to make it "theirs" and I don't think the additions are necessarily valid or helpful.
I've never had a problem with simply being an INTJ. I might just be arrogant enough to think that's the perfect type...... ;) |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.27 13:49:00 -
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From INTJ - this is so me!
"Loathe highly structured environments GÇô Blindly following precedents and rules without understanding them is distasteful to INTJs, and they disdain even more authority figures who blindly uphold those laws and rules without understanding their intent. Anyone who prefers the status quo for its own sake, or who values stability and safety over self-determination, is likely to clash with INTJ personality types. Whether it's the law of the land or simple social convention, this aversion applies equally, often making life more difficult than it needs to be." |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.27 14:00:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:While I am sure this is just for funsies, just and FYI, that OCEAN aka the Big Five Personality Model has much more empirical evidence backing it than the Myers Briggs.
Myers Briggs tends to be the more fun to talk about though.
I have also been tested as INFJ, but most recent was INFP. Everyone is everything. Being an INFJ means you are also an ESTP, with one of them being your major persona, and likely the one that describes something about your profession, and the other being the persona of your hobbies and non-vocational interests. Some people actually find their vocation in their hobbies, which can be a bit confusing - what do they do with their other half?
But if you were an INFJ once and an INFP some other time, that just means your attitude has changed from being more judgemental to being more perceptive in your personal life. It just reflects your current groupings, and can change over time. For the record, according to these tests, you would be classified as an INFX, and have some of the traits of both the INFJ and INFP. The INF part hasn't changed. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.28 09:07:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Last time I took the test it said I had the same personality type as Putin...
Me too. I don't mind that. :)
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.28 09:07:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Last time I took the test it said I had the same personality type as Putin...
INTJ/ENTJ? Welcome to the club Agreed! :) |
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.28 09:09:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:I took this test years ago and I remember getting INTJ. Retook it, taking extra time to really think about my answers. ISFJ-A https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality"Naturally social, an odd quality for Introverts, ISFJs utilize excellent memories not to retain data and trivia, but to remember people, and details about their lives. " It's true. I remember more things about people and their lives than numbers and data points. "When it comes to gift-giving, ISFJs have no equal, using their imagination and natural sensitivity to express their generosity in ways that touch the hearts of their recipients." Also true. My gift giving game is on point. lol. You're not actually meant to really think about the answers. They're meant to be a quick response. If you think about the answers you might skew the results.
Of course, if your personality type is the sort that skews results.... :) |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.29 02:28:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:lol. You're not actually meant to really think about the answers. They're meant to be a quick response. If you think about the answers you might skew the results.
Of course, if your personality type is the sort that skews results.... :) Where does it say that? I might retake it sometime then, just to be sure. What I meany by "taking extra time" was I would think of real world examples of what the question was asking and then recollect my real world response. I don't think that would skew results. I don't know that this test actually emphasises that. I remember taking it quite some time ago and again a number of times more recently. If you just answer quickly, you get your unbiased preferences. If you take time to answer, you allow conscious thought to skew your subconscious (unbiased) preferences, and thus the more you think about it, the more likely you will get a result that tends to be something you think you want to be rather than something you actually are.
Perhaps "taking more time" the way you did is potentially OK, but you risk the possibility of this skewing. The fact that you ended up with a different result due to it is actually an indication of skewing, UNLESS it reflects a change in you with time.
For instance, I was initially INTJ with an EXTREME "J". Over time, that extreme judgemental trait has softened and mellowed, to the point where I am now almost INTP instead. I might add, I can see traits in myself of the INTP sort as well, so this is probably pretty correct.
The other interesting thing is the E/I split. Over time I've become more extroverted in some ways, but it hasn't effected the groupings - my I side is still INTJ where my E side is still ESFP. I am however these days finding myself operating in my ESFP persona more than I used to. I just put that down to the fact that these days I am dedicating myself to my "artsy" side (ESFP - "Performer"/"Entertainer") since "retiring" from my day job.
Now, here's an interesting little snippet - if I'm becoming with time more INTP, then that means my hobbies are with time becoming more ESFJ, which is classified by this test as the "Consul", and supposedly very popular. That's NOT me. If on the other hand, I really am becoming more an ESFP with my performance thing, that means my hobbies are becoming more INTP, which actually does fit - I do a lot of logicking (like in this post) these days.... :) |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.29 02:33:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:From INTJ - this is so me!
"Loathe highly structured environments GÇô Blindly following precedents and rules without understanding them is distasteful to INTJs, and they disdain even more authority figures who blindly uphold those laws and rules without understanding their intent. Anyone who prefers the status quo for its own sake, or who values stability and safety over self-determination, is likely to clash with INTJ personality types. Whether it's the law of the land or simple social convention, this aversion applies equally, often making life more difficult than it needs to be." Then you would be an enemy of an ENTJ, such as myself. When you think ENTJ think any character Harrison Ford has ever played or Darth Vader. I give preference to Darth Vader. Darth Vader wrote:...You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy. Huh? Why does an INTJ have to be an "enemy" of an ENTJ??
To me they're just the introverted vs. extroverted sides of the NTJ persona. I suppose you could say the one turns such thinking in on themselves, while the other turns it outward. This test calls ENTJ the "Commander". When I first did the Kiersey Temperament Test (which is a form of Meyers-Briggs), they called ENTJ the "Visionary Leader" being someone who logically thinks through the direction EVERYONE should follow then leads them. I guess "Commander" is close enough to that.
Surely the only way INTJ and ENTJ would be enemies would be when ENTJ says everyone should follow their lead, which INTJ would think was irrelevant to them. :) |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.29 02:45:00 -
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I find it interesting that I can't find any reference in this test or its site to a person's opposite persona, the one they use for their hobbies. It was definitely mentioned in other tests I've done. Perhaps you only get reference to that with the Premium Profile, which I presume you have to pay for.
But it's easy enough to read up your opposite and apply that to your own hobby pursuits I guess. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.29 11:54:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:INTJs.... They just have a hard time cooperating if the rules make no damn sense.
NEVER a truer word was spoken!! :) |
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