DUST Search - So how's Nova coming along?

Maken Tosch wrote:

Ripley Riley wrote:

Derpty Derp wrote:

Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months?

No, but from demo to an early alpha? Sure.

Even then 2 months is really pushing your luck.

With the amount of time it takes to create just one map, if CCP were to get us into early alpha today we would only be able to play 1 or 2 maps at the most depending on how the maps were made. If you follow up with CCP LogicLoop on Discord chat you would get an idea on how long its takes to make a map. From rough sketches to concept art to textures to modeling to play testing and looking for possible glitches in the map and perhaps any memory leaks, that would take a lot of time for just one map.

Maybe if you were referring to maps that were already made for Dust I would likely understand. But since Nova will likely be set in spaceships, that means new maps. Then there is the weapon balancing, dropsuit balancing, skill progression, item pricing, etc. which have very likely been rebuilt from the ground up which means anything we saw from Dust in terms of mechanic and balance is probably never going to be applied to Nova.

My point here is that 2 months is way to short of a time to even get pre-alpha started. I say give them time and let CCP get it right the first time THIS TIME. In the meantime, go ahead and play Overwatch or Unreal Tournament Pre-Alpha if you like.

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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2349	Posted - 2016.06.25 09:26:00 - [1] - Quote % of completion? Estimated public release date? Talk to us, guys don't leave us in the dust. #ProjectNOVA is upon us! May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1453	Posted - 2016.06.25 15:21:00 - [2] - Quote Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months?
Dragonmeballs Better Hide R Die 307	Posted - 2016.06.25 17:20:00 - [3] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Well duh! How else do you think they can generate another generation of salty tryhards? Caldari in the streets, Amarr between the sheets
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1454	Posted - 2016.06.25 20:08:00 - [4] - Quote Dragonmeballs wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Well duh! How else do you think they can generate another generation of salty tryhards? Well the forum game is still going strong, get the noobs in here!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 14057	Posted - 2016.06.25 20:12:00 - [5] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? No, but from demo to an early alpha? Sure. #ProjectNova
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13567	Posted - 2016.06.25 20:39:00 - [6] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? No, but from demo to an early alpha? Sure. Even then 2 months is really pushing your luck. With the amount of time it takes to create just one map, if CCP were to get us into early alpha today we would only be able to play 1 or 2 maps at the most depending on how the maps were made. If you follow up with CCP LogicLoop on Discord chat you would get an idea on how long its takes to make a map. From rough sketches to concept art to textures to modeling to play testing and looking for possible glitches in the map and perhaps any memory leaks, that would take a lot of time for just one map. Maybe if you were referring to maps that were already made for Dust I would likely understand. But since Nova will likely be set in spaceships, that means new maps. Then there is the weapon balancing, dropsuit balancing, skill progression, item pricing, etc. which have very likely been rebuilt from the ground up which means anything we saw from Dust in terms of mechanic and balance is probably never going to be applied to Nova. My point here is that 2 months is way to short of a time to even get pre-alpha started. I say give them time and let CCP get it right the first time THIS TIME. In the meantime, go ahead and play Overwatch or Unreal Tournament Pre-Alpha if you like. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 2350	Posted - 2016.06.26 13:10:00 - [7] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Who the hell said I want it to be done right now? I'm just curious how it's going, what they've added in so far, maybe show us some concept art or something. SOMETHING! #ProjectNOVA is upon us! May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
DUST Fiend 18404	Posted - 2016.06.26 13:24:00 - [8] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? No, but from demo to an early alpha? Sure. If they hadn't mislead us about Legion for 2 years and instead had a single dev working one hour a day on it during that time, then yea, we'd probably have that alpha by now. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
First Prophet Nos Nothi 5184	Posted - 2016.06.27 02:47:00 - [9] - Quote I'd at least like to know if it was green lit or not. Sanmatar Kelkoons now recruiting
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 1161	Posted - 2016.06.27 06:22:00 - [10] - Quote SOONGäó FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST

james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 530	Posted - 2016.06.27 06:58:00 - [11] - Quote Nov / Dec is the most likely time for an Alpha. I personally want it to come earlier, but this is Every Employee @ CCP n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR PROJECT NOVAGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë
saxonmish T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1954	Posted - 2016.06.27 08:52:00 - [12] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Yes. SAXON ON A MISH - My Youtube Channel :)
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1251	Posted - 2016.06.27 11:23:00 - [13] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? No, but from demo to an early alpha? Sure. Even then 2 months is really pushing your luck. With the amount of time it takes to create just one map, if CCP were to get us into early alpha today we would only be able to play 1 or 2 maps at the most depending on how the maps were made. If you follow up with CCP LogicLoop on Discord chat you would get an idea on how long its takes to make a map. From rough sketches to concept art to textures to modeling to play testing and looking for possible glitches in the map and perhaps any memory leaks, that would take a lot of time for just one map. Maybe if you were referring to maps that were already made for Dust I would likely understand. But since Nova will likely be set in spaceships, that means new maps. Then there is the weapon balancing, dropsuit balancing, skill progression, item pricing, etc. which have very likely been rebuilt from the ground up which means anything we saw from Dust in terms of mechanic and balance is probably never going to be applied to Nova. My point here is that 2 months is way to short of a time to even get pre-alpha started. I say give them time and let CCP get it right the first time THIS TIME. In the meantime, go ahead and play Overwatch or Unreal Tournament Pre-Alpha if you like. You say that like playing on 1 or 2 maps is a bad thing. As for balancing, its never gonna be perfectly balanced as something is always gonna be better than something else. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7786	Posted - 2016.06.27 12:04:00 - [14] - Quote They want to get it to Alpha sometime this year, but even that is not set in stone. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 14063	Posted - 2016.06.27 15:09:00 - [15] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: They want to get it to Alpha sometime this year, but even that is not set in stone. If memory serves, Rattati said something about the alpha being available "this month" referring to April. With April long behind us I think CCP Shanghai has either encountered an obstacle or are working on including something very new in the alpha. My hope and sincerest dream? PvE or PvEvP. #ProjectNova
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 964	Posted - 2016.06.27 18:12:00 - [16] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Who the hell said I want it to be done right now? I'm just curious how it's going, what they've added in so far, maybe show us some concept art or something. SOMETHING! This please Dustkillz and chill
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 8318	Posted - 2016.06.27 18:18:00 - [17] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: They want to get it to Alpha sometime this year, but even that is not set in stone. If memory serves, Rattati said something about the alpha being available "this month" referring to April. With April long behind us I think CCP Shanghai has either encountered an obstacle or are working on including something very new in the alpha. My hope and sincerest dream? PvE or PvEvP. I believe he said "This Year" not "This Month". Besides they need time to create an epic CGI release trailer based off the critically acclaimed "Rise Again" trailer for Phoenix. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 14065	Posted - 2016.06.27 18:40:00 - [18] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I believe he said "This Year" not "This Month". He did! I found the interview. "We're aiming for an alpha in 2016. This year maybe? Could be." -CCP Rattati #ProjectNova
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 10340	Posted - 2016.06.27 20:58:00 - [19] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Wish they had more transparency, at least. Kind of like blog posts at the end of each month saying, "we optimized the engine" one month, and "added Ion Pistol prototype" the next or something like that. You know, like how IGA is doing with his Kickstarter for Bloodstained. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 14066	Posted - 2016.06.27 21:05:00 - [20] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Blog posts at the end of each month. I would personally love this. Small updates here and there would help tide us all over. Get the mouths watering with some concept art or early in-game assets. Bare minimum I would love to see CCP Rattati post on the forums again. I <3 you LogicLoop, but the more blue tags the better. My advice to you, playa.

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 8324	Posted - 2016.06.27 21:09:00 - [21] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Wish they had more transparency, at least. Kind of like blog posts at the end of each month saying, "we optimized the engine" one month, and "added Ion Pistol prototype" the next or something like that. You know, like how IGA is doing with his Kickstarter for Bloodstained. Lol while I agree with you completely, expecting CCP to have the level of transparency that an indie developer has is a pipedream. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1461	Posted - 2016.06.27 23:37:00 - [22] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Wish they had more transparency, at least. Kind of like blog posts at the end of each month saying, "we optimized the engine" one month, and "added Ion Pistol prototype" the next or something like that. You know, like how IGA is doing with his Kickstarter for Bloodstained. In college we had to keep writing about everything we were doing on projects, it used to drive me mad having to waste time doing that, when I could have been doing something more practical and interesting. Obviously, if they wanted to do that it'd be great, but I would never ask anyone to waste their time on such things. The other thing is, with a kickstarter you want to let people know where your money is going, but here no one's paying for Nova. (inb4 "I payed money into Dust, so I have a stake in everything CCP does between now and eternity.)
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1716	Posted - 2016.06.28 04:13:00 - [23] - Quote Well, the pet battle system is having some delays and flying mounts are only working for Minmatar and Amarr. Not sure about Gal and Cal content yet, but the heavy dropships are having problems turning left. CCP logic GÇô NOVA isn't an actual product. It is only a project. We might not do it at all.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1462	Posted - 2016.06.28 14:03:00 - [24] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Well, the pet battle system is having some delays and flying mounts are only working for Minmatar and Amarr. Not sure about Gal and Cal content yet, but the heavy dropships are having problems turning left. It's because the flying mounts are situated on the right side of the dropship, playing havoc with the dropship balance... Better nerf flying mounts.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 10344	Posted - 2016.06.28 19:30:00 - [25] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Joel II X wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Fanfest was like 2 months ago... You expect them to go from a little demo to a full blown release in 2 months? Wish they had more transparency, at least. Kind of like blog posts at the end of each month saying, "we optimized the engine" one month, and "added Ion Pistol prototype" the next or something like that. You know, like how IGA is doing with his Kickstarter for Bloodstained. In college we had to keep writing about everything we were doing on projects, it used to drive me mad having to waste time doing that, when I could have been doing something more practical and interesting. Obviously, if they wanted to do that it'd be great, but I would never ask anyone to waste their time on such things. The other thing is, with a kickstarter you want to let people know where your money is going, but here no one's paying for Nova. (inb4 "I payed money into Dust, so I have a stake in everything CCP does between now and eternity.) That's college. In real life, we could just sum things up in 3 sentences or less. And I know about the Kickstarter thing, but still. Didn't they promise to have more communication? I think this is the best way to do it, and if you only have 1 guy don't it from the whole team, you're not really wasting resources/time. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.


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