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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1006
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Posted - 2016.05.25 05:56:00 -
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... and left all but about 3 of the battles. The level of distaste I'm feeling rising in me is causing me to start feeling like avoiding the game, rather than playing it. Has the mentality of players really sunk to the depths of just turning every battle into a free-for-all killfest? It seems that most battles are like that these days. I'm getting very good at detecting stomping behaviour in the other team and leaving battles to save my time and effort. I don't see the point in just endlessly throwing expensive suits and clones in them at the enemy for no real gain. Battles are stomps and I too often find myself on the stomped side....
Of course, without playing it their way, I'm practically not playing at all. Soon I will probably simply not log in. |
Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
The-Office
1652
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Posted - 2016.05.25 06:43:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:... and left all but about 3 of the battles. The level of distaste I'm feeling rising in me is causing me to start feeling like avoiding the game, rather than playing it. Has the mentality of players really sunk to the depths of just turning every battle into a free-for-all killfest? It seems that most battles are like that these days. I'm getting very good at detecting stomping behaviour in the other team and leaving battles to save my time and effort. I don't see the point in just endlessly throwing expensive suits and clones in them at the enemy for no real gain. Battles are stomps and I too often find myself on the stomped side....
Of course, without playing it their way, I'm practically not playing at all. Soon I will probably simply not log in.
So what you're saying is you quit when you're losing
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1006
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Posted - 2016.05.25 07:40:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:... and left all but about 3 of the battles. The level of distaste I'm feeling rising in me is causing me to start feeling like avoiding the game, rather than playing it. Has the mentality of players really sunk to the depths of just turning every battle into a free-for-all killfest? It seems that most battles are like that these days. I'm getting very good at detecting stomping behaviour in the other team and leaving battles to save my time and effort. I don't see the point in just endlessly throwing expensive suits and clones in them at the enemy for no real gain. Battles are stomps and I too often find myself on the stomped side....
Of course, without playing it their way, I'm practically not playing at all. Soon I will probably simply not log in. So what you're saying is you quit when you're losing
Of course you'd say that - it's the standard complaint amongst those who think people shouldn't leave battles. But no, I usually don't know whether I'm losing or not when I quit. Sometimes my team wins, but most of the time, it loses. I solo which means I have no say over the team I deploy with other than to leave.
It's more telling to note that the overwhelming majority of my battles are losses. That can't be because I was on the team, or even that I left the battle. They were going to be losses anyway, because the matching system in combination with squadding and qsyncing tends to put the squads on one team, then fills both teams with solos and noobs. The simple, logical result is that a solo or noob will usually be on the losing side. This is the logical deduction from the fact that I am usually on the losing team.
In any case, the usual reason I leave is the type of opponent I encounter. I won't fight people who exploit anything in the game to their advantage. I also leave whenever I detect stomping, because I don't tolerate it. I won't participate in it, and I won't fight against it. There's always the possibility I'll be deployed as filler in a team of stompers and I usually experience that as an extremely boring battle. The stompers have already dealt with the enemy before I have a chance to. This type of battle is very rare.
So cutting a long story short, yes, I'm usually losing when I leave the battle, but I don't know that at the time. It's a fair bet though! |
the SyntaxError
Chaos Of W.A.R
14
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Posted - 2016.05.25 07:41:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:
Of course, without playing it their way, I'm practically not playing at all. Soon I will probably simply not log in.
Soon you can-¦t simply not log in.... end of dust514 story about to get real  |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1006
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Posted - 2016.05.25 07:43:00 -
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the SyntaxError wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:
Of course, without playing it their way, I'm practically not playing at all. Soon I will probably simply not log in.
Soon you can-¦t simply not log in.... end of dust514 story about to get real
Yep. I can't wait. This is such an unbalanced game, it's better off dead. It will be interesting to see if CCP fixes the things in Nova that I believe are wrong with this game, but they probably think those things are great - everyone else seems to. ;) |
Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
1027
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Posted - 2016.05.25 11:00:00 -
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Obviously it's not always fun, but I like to slow their momentum, maximize their losses, etc.. If it's a full squad (or two) of rooftop campers, triple myo scrubs, or just meta players in eHP-heavy Assault suits, I don't entertain them. So I feel you there.
The problem in your case is that you might be stuck in the high bracket matches. By leaving a stomp, a potentially bad end-of-match stat is not registered to your Mu score, and therefore you're not eventually transferred to the low bracket (less intense battles, mostly starter fits). If this is the case: your best bet is to tough out a few crappy fights until the matches soften up. It helps to stay in proximity of competent blues, or find a squadmate to roll with that isn't too irritatingly extroverted (like me :D).
Very late advice, I know.
[102.3m SP]
-The Swagmaster Logi-
"Sazu never dies. He just changes form." -Necron Animus
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Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
The-Office
1654
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Posted - 2016.05.25 13:42:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:... and left all but about 3 of the battles. The level of distaste I'm feeling rising in me is causing me to start feeling like avoiding the game, rather than playing it. Has the mentality of players really sunk to the depths of just turning every battle into a free-for-all killfest? It seems that most battles are like that these days. I'm getting very good at detecting stomping behaviour in the other team and leaving battles to save my time and effort. I don't see the point in just endlessly throwing expensive suits and clones in them at the enemy for no real gain. Battles are stomps and I too often find myself on the stomped side....
Of course, without playing it their way, I'm practically not playing at all. Soon I will probably simply not log in. So what you're saying is you quit when you're losing Of course you'd say that - it's the standard complaint amongst those who think people shouldn't leave battles. But no, I usually don't know whether I'm losing or not when I quit. Sometimes my team wins, but most of the time, it loses. I solo which means I have no say over the team I deploy with other than to leave. It's more telling to note that the overwhelming majority of my battles are losses. That can't be because I was on the team, or even that I left the battle. They were going to be losses anyway, because the matching system in combination with squadding and qsyncing tends to put the squads on one team, then fills both teams with solos and noobs. The simple, logical result is that a solo or noob will usually be on the losing side. This is the logical deduction from the fact that I am usually on the losing team. In any case, the usual reason I leave is the type of opponent I encounter. I won't fight people who exploit anything in the game to their advantage. I also leave whenever I detect stomping, because I don't tolerate it. I won't participate in it, and I won't fight against it. There's always the possibility I'll be deployed as filler in a team of stompers and I usually experience that as an extremely boring battle. The stompers have already dealt with the enemy before I have a chance to. This type of battle is very rare. So cutting a long story short, yes, I'm usually losing when I leave the battle, but I don't know that at the time. It's a fair bet though!
I don't get this stomping problem. What are you asking for? Everyone to run starter fits? Nobody to run in squads? The object is to win and I'll be using proto/officer because I can and the games almost over. It gives me the best chance to win
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
4644
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Posted - 2016.05.25 14:24:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Obviously it's not always fun, but I like to slow their momentum, maximize their losses, etc.. If it's a full squad (or two) of rooftop campers, triple myo scrubs, or just meta players in eHP-heavy Assault suits, I don't entertain them. So I feel you there.
The problem in your case is that you might be stuck in the high bracket matches. By leaving a stomp, a potentially bad end-of-match stat is not registered to your Mu score, and therefore you're not eventually transferred to the low bracket (less intense battles, mostly starter fits). If this is the case: your best bet is to tough out a few crappy fights until the matches soften up. It helps to stay in proximity of competent blues, or find a squadmate to roll with that isn't too irritatingly extroverted (like me :D).
Very late advice, I know.
This is why I never leave battle unless My squadmate didn't get in...
I'm usually ALWAYS in stomps... So I make a goal... Let's see how many reds I can humiliate by making them lose their precious officer/proto to a basic/militia suit.
"A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
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Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
982
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Posted - 2016.05.25 15:35:00 -
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Knifing someone in an officer suit is fantastic
Here since Closed beta. That's messed up
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
4644
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Posted - 2016.05.25 15:39:00 -
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Lucifalic wrote:Knifing someone in an officer suit is fantastic
OMG YEssssss..
"A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2779
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Posted - 2016.05.25 16:26:00 -
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Soooooo.... Your point? Dust will end soon. Why even bother saving your suits? This is just qq because you're getting stomped.
Am ded.
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five times
Liverpool F.C.
326
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Posted - 2016.05.25 16:51:00 -
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i play solo, but im the opposite to the OP
i hate being on the stomping team
i prefer to be on the weak team, the positives are endless, ill list a few
1) you dont have to go looking for someone to shoot,
2) its a good test of your stealth skills to sneak up on a squad from behind, and melee or knife them,
3) its a good challemger, i rather go 11/19 against decent opposition, than get a boring 8/0 shooting fish in a barrel (narrel surrounded by 10 shooters aiming for the same fish)
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Stupid Blueberry
Death-Worship.
1347
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Posted - 2016.05.25 16:51:00 -
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Coward.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
Orbital Laser S is hot.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
15631
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Posted - 2016.05.25 19:29:00 -
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There have definitely been some frustrating moments recently, but I have had a ton of fun moments too. More than I had for a long time.
I just remind myself all of this is going away, and the jumpy MDs become minor annoyances.
It was honestly much worse before the announcement and I am just glad people are on and there is still some fun to be had before the end.
If this game weren't ending, I would likely have a different perspective and be much more frustrated with its state.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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lamo guys
Corrosive Synergy
407
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Posted - 2016.05.26 00:54:00 -
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Just play to your best till the end! Why cry, why ***** just go out and smash and grab! Boohoo I got curb stomped, then stop playing! Nothing has changed in the last 6 months. I have had some of the best grind till the end battles ever in the last few weeks.
Its still a game and you decide what happens! I'm not a slayer but I know that my link running and scanning have turned battles. Again if you play the same game every time you get the same out come. Damn have some fun in what you have left!
When in doubt pull the forge out!!
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XxBlazikenxX
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
5224
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Posted - 2016.05.26 00:57:00 -
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Yeah. I've never left a battle before, I don't care if my team is getting stomped and it is 4v12 (true story). The only times I ever leave a battle is either when I get dced or when I have a PC I need to do.
You can say whatever you want, but you are just a quitter. I'm not, no matter the consequences. I know this because I've gotten 20+ deaths before just trying to push out of the redline.
#internet honor
Rule #1 of Dust 514:
If you get hatemail, you are doing something right.
#Imperiumftw
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lamo guys
Corrosive Synergy
407
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Posted - 2016.05.26 01:07:00 -
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^ what he said! I'll burn clones if no one else will. Those are the matches where you can play different tactics and see what works and what doesn't. If you didn't try it you can't say it didn't work, or your just not skilled into enough things to do it.
When in doubt pull the forge out!!
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1098
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Posted - 2016.05.26 01:26:00 -
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If only we had this free for all with expensive stuff going on and the old WP cost for orbitals and 6 man squads back.
I miss trolling pro stompers with OB after OB.
FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1012
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Posted - 2016.05.26 04:51:00 -
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lamo guys wrote:Just play to your best till the end! Why cry, why ***** just go out and smash and grab! Boohoo I got curb stomped, then stop playing! Nothing has changed in the last 6 months. I have had some of the best grind till the end battles ever in the last few weeks.
Its still a game and you decide what happens! I'm not a slayer but I know that my link running and scanning have turned battles. Again if you play the same game every time you get the same out come. Damn have some fun in what you have left!
"Nothing has changed in the last 6 months"?? What rot! I'm sure most people have seen a marked degeneration of the quality of playing since the announcement. If nothing else, the fact that every battle has turned into an Ambush is evidence enough. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1013
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Posted - 2016.05.26 05:03:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Obviously it's not always fun, but I like to slow their momentum, maximize their losses, etc.. If it's a full squad (or two) of rooftop campers, triple myo scrubs, or just meta players in eHP-heavy Assault suits, I don't entertain them. So I feel you there.
The problem in your case is that you might be stuck in the high bracket matches. By leaving a stomp, a potentially bad end-of-match stat is not registered to your Mu score, and therefore you're not eventually transferred to the low bracket (less intense battles, mostly starter fits). If this is the case: your best bet is to tough out a few crappy fights until the matches soften up. It helps to stay in proximity of competent blues, or find a squadmate to roll with that isn't too irritatingly extroverted (like me :D). Edit: That was worded poorly. I meant that I'm not extroverted and I prefer minimum interaction with non-friends.
Very late advice, I know.
Well, clearly any advice at this point is going to be superfluous. :)
In any case, I don't actually want to play in lower level matches. I worked hard to get to where I am. I just want decent clean enjoyable battles for the last days. That's why I'm annoyed at what's happening. And I'm not the only one! Plenty I talk to on chat channels say the same.
These selfish fools are driving people like me out of the game prematurely. They won't play Ambush, will they? No, they want to bring their idiocy to Dom and Skirm and turn those into Ambush, because that's where all the people who don't like Ambush are. Any case, it doesn't bother me, the game's dead. I was just really looking forward to seeing how far I could go with this in the time left. I've gotten far enough I think - maxed out CalAss, CalScout, RR, MAGSEC, shields, armour, profile dampening, engineering, electronics. All the things I would probably have wanted anyway, since I never had any intention of training any other races or weapons, at least not on this alt.
I'm glad the game is dead. That lot deserve it. If the game had stayed reasonably playable, I might be sad it's finishing, but with all their shenanigans, you can have it. I don't squad, precisely because I don't want to participate in all this poor behaviour, but even that is irrelevant now. You just can't escape it. |
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1016
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Posted - 2016.05.26 05:09:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:... and left all but about 3 of the battles. The level of distaste I'm feeling rising in me is causing me to start feeling like avoiding the game, rather than playing it. Has the mentality of players really sunk to the depths of just turning every battle into a free-for-all killfest? It seems that most battles are like that these days. I'm getting very good at detecting stomping behaviour in the other team and leaving battles to save my time and effort. I don't see the point in just endlessly throwing expensive suits and clones in them at the enemy for no real gain. Battles are stomps and I too often find myself on the stomped side....
Of course, without playing it their way, I'm practically not playing at all. Soon I will probably simply not log in. So what you're saying is you quit when you're losing Of course you'd say that - it's the standard complaint amongst those who think people shouldn't leave battles. But no, I usually don't know whether I'm losing or not when I quit. Sometimes my team wins, but most of the time, it loses. I solo which means I have no say over the team I deploy with other than to leave. It's more telling to note that the overwhelming majority of my battles are losses. That can't be because I was on the team, or even that I left the battle. They were going to be losses anyway, because the matching system in combination with squadding and qsyncing tends to put the squads on one team, then fills both teams with solos and noobs. The simple, logical result is that a solo or noob will usually be on the losing side. This is the logical deduction from the fact that I am usually on the losing team. In any case, the usual reason I leave is the type of opponent I encounter. I won't fight people who exploit anything in the game to their advantage. I also leave whenever I detect stomping, because I don't tolerate it. I won't participate in it, and I won't fight against it. There's always the possibility I'll be deployed as filler in a team of stompers and I usually experience that as an extremely boring battle. The stompers have already dealt with the enemy before I have a chance to. This type of battle is very rare. So cutting a long story short, yes, I'm usually losing when I leave the battle, but I don't know that at the time. It's a fair bet though! I don't get this stomping problem. What are you asking for? Everyone to run starter fits? Nobody to run in squads? The object is to win and I'll be using proto/officer because I can and the games almost over. It gives me the best chance to win
And I guess you've said everything in that reply.
No, for me the object is NOT to win, at least not at any cost. Using exploits, qsyncing and squadding (stomping) has become the order of the day now. The problem of course is the game which allows all this. No I'm not asking for people to not squad. But it would be very much better if there was a mode where solos didn't have to come up against squads. It used to be that solos didn't actually have to most of the time. But as a solo I can assure you these days, squads are the order of the day in virtually every match and I'm always on the other team. I had 5 battles in a row today, all losses. I left all but the last one, but that was a loss as well. I KNOW when they will be losses, because I've become adept at detecting when the battle is that one-sided right from the start. So I leave when I detect it, simple. Problem is, it's most battles now. It used to be just the odd few...
There might be a point to all this if the battles were evenly matched but they never are. ALL battles are stomps. Either you're in one of the stomping squads or you're on the other team and you're stomped. Doesn't take much to win if you're on the stomping side.... |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1016
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Posted - 2016.05.26 05:13:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:Obviously it's not always fun, but I like to slow their momentum, maximize their losses, etc.. If it's a full squad (or two) of rooftop campers, triple myo scrubs, or just meta players in eHP-heavy Assault suits, I don't entertain them. So I feel you there.
The problem in your case is that you might be stuck in the high bracket matches. By leaving a stomp, a potentially bad end-of-match stat is not registered to your Mu score, and therefore you're not eventually transferred to the low bracket (less intense battles, mostly starter fits). If this is the case: your best bet is to tough out a few crappy fights until the matches soften up. It helps to stay in proximity of competent blues, or find a squadmate to roll with that isn't too irritatingly extroverted (like me :D).
Very late advice, I know. This is why I never leave battle unless My squadmate didn't get in... I'm usually always in stomps... So I make a goal... Let's see how many reds I can humiliate by making them lose their precious officer/proto to a basic/militia suit.
I'd probably be like you Radiant, if I had a bit more experience. What I've lately been having fun doing is just using my Rasetsu and Hawk with BPO modules, basicly BPO fits, so that when I take out one of these turkeys (never by myself, I imagine) they get to see that I killed them with my MLT MAGSEC BPO on a Rasetsu BPO.... ;) |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1016
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Posted - 2016.05.26 05:17:00 -
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lamo guys wrote:Just play to your best till the end! Why cry, why ***** just go out and smash and grab! Boohoo I got curb stomped, then stop playing! Nothing has changed in the last 6 months. I have had some of the best grind till the end battles ever in the last few weeks.
Its still a game and you decide what happens! I'm not a slayer but I know that my link running and scanning have turned battles. Again if you play the same game every time you get the same out come. Damn have some fun in what you have left!
Unfortunately, it's not fun for me. I'm not achieving anything, and I don't have enough experience to deal with the stompers. I won't squad, which is probably the main thing that would help because then I'd be on the stomping side. But even when I am by accident on the stomping side it's not fun because the other side is usually so inept.
No thanks. I'll just continue to try to find the occasional battle that's worth playing. I still get them but they are getting less and less every day. I only had a single one today. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1019
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Posted - 2016.05.26 05:19:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Yeah. I've never left a battle before, I don't care if my team is getting stomped and it is 4v12 (true story). The only times I ever leave a battle is either when I get dced or when I have a PC I need to do.
You can say whatever you want, but you are just a quitter. I'm not, no matter the consequences. I know this because I've gotten 20+ deaths before just trying to push out of the redline.
#internet honor
Sorry but I've got better things to do. If by leaving a battle that's pointless and I'm achieving nothing, I'm a quitter, then so be it. I'd rather quit any number of those battles to try to find a decent one where people aren't using every single exploit they can to win at any cost. If I can't find one within a reasonable time and number of battles, I just switch off and go do something else. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1019
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Posted - 2016.05.26 05:23:00 -
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lamo guys wrote:^ what he said! I'll burn clones if no one else will. Those are the matches where you can play different tactics and see what works and what doesn't. If you didn't try it you can't say it didn't work, or your just not skilled into enough things to do it.
I'm pretty much skilled into all the things I would ever be at this point. I could still skill into things like faster reload, etc, but I'm maxed out in proficiency for all the weapons I use, and maxed out in pretty much all the other gear as well. I've achieved what I wanted to in the time, but I haven't had long enough to hone tactics well enough to counter a lot of what I'm finding now.
My answer to that, if I do stay in the battle, is to switch to BPOs and see how many I can take out with my State Rail Rifle or Militia MAGSEC SMG BPO. That's always fun. :)
It's not the expense either. I have more than enough ISK for the last few days, probably for many months to come actually. I just can't stand the sort of playing I'm seeing now. |
XxBlazikenxX
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
5227
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Posted - 2016.05.26 05:28:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Yeah. I've never left a battle before, I don't care if my team is getting stomped and it is 4v12 (true story). The only times I ever leave a battle is either when I get dced or when I have a PC I need to do.
You can say whatever you want, but you are just a quitter. I'm not, no matter the consequences. I know this because I've gotten 20+ deaths before just trying to push out of the redline.
#internet honor Sorry but I've got better things to do. If by leaving a battle that's pointless and I'm achieving nothing, I'm a quitter, then so be it. I'd rather quit any number of those battles to try to find a decent one where people aren't using every single exploit they can to win at any cost. If I can't find one within a reasonable time and number of battles, I just switch off and go do something else.
Are you salty that I headshotted you from <30 meters with a Tac Sniper on an Amarr Light Frame ak.0?
Rule #1 of Dust 514:
If you get hatemail, you are doing something right.
#Imperiumftw
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1021
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Posted - 2016.05.26 05:38:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Yeah. I've never left a battle before, I don't care if my team is getting stomped and it is 4v12 (true story). The only times I ever leave a battle is either when I get dced or when I have a PC I need to do.
You can say whatever you want, but you are just a quitter. I'm not, no matter the consequences. I know this because I've gotten 20+ deaths before just trying to push out of the redline.
#internet honor Sorry but I've got better things to do. If by leaving a battle that's pointless and I'm achieving nothing, I'm a quitter, then so be it. I'd rather quit any number of those battles to try to find a decent one where people aren't using every single exploit they can to win at any cost. If I can't find one within a reasonable time and number of battles, I just switch off and go do something else. Are you salty that I headshotted you from <30 meters with a Tac Sniper on an Amarr Light Frame ak.0?
lol Was that you?! :)
You were the only one to snipe me today. I went after you in my Hawk sniper fit later, unless there was someone else. But the game was over before I could take you out!
No, I'm not salty over being sniped. I just countersnipe back. I started in this game as a sniper so woe betide anyone silly enough to snipe me. :)
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Ah there was one more. I didn't countersnipe you if that was you. I deployed somewhere else I think. |
Panthrax Oblivion
Horizons' Edge
The-Office
1665
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:13:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:... and left all but about 3 of the battles. The level of distaste I'm feeling rising in me is causing me to start feeling like avoiding the game, rather than playing it. Has the mentality of players really sunk to the depths of just turning every battle into a free-for-all killfest? It seems that most battles are like that these days. I'm getting very good at detecting stomping behaviour in the other team and leaving battles to save my time and effort. I don't see the point in just endlessly throwing expensive suits and clones in them at the enemy for no real gain. Battles are stomps and I too often find myself on the stomped side....
Of course, without playing it their way, I'm practically not playing at all. Soon I will probably simply not log in. So what you're saying is you quit when you're losing Of course you'd say that - it's the standard complaint amongst those who think people shouldn't leave battles. But no, I usually don't know whether I'm losing or not when I quit. Sometimes my team wins, but most of the time, it loses. I solo which means I have no say over the team I deploy with other than to leave. It's more telling to note that the overwhelming majority of my battles are losses. That can't be because I was on the team, or even that I left the battle. They were going to be losses anyway, because the matching system in combination with squadding and qsyncing tends to put the squads on one team, then fills both teams with solos and noobs. The simple, logical result is that a solo or noob will usually be on the losing side. This is the logical deduction from the fact that I am usually on the losing team. In any case, the usual reason I leave is the type of opponent I encounter. I won't fight people who exploit anything in the game to their advantage. I also leave whenever I detect stomping, because I don't tolerate it. I won't participate in it, and I won't fight against it. There's always the possibility I'll be deployed as filler in a team of stompers and I usually experience that as an extremely boring battle. The stompers have already dealt with the enemy before I have a chance to. This type of battle is very rare. So cutting a long story short, yes, I'm usually losing when I leave the battle, but I don't know that at the time. It's a fair bet though! I don't get this stomping problem. What are you asking for? Everyone to run starter fits? Nobody to run in squads? The object is to win and I'll be using proto/officer because I can and the games almost over. It gives me the best chance to win And I guess you've said everything in that reply. No, for me the object is NOT to win, at least not at any cost. Using exploits, qsyncing and squadding (stomping) has become the order of the day now. The problem of course is the game which allows all this. No I'm not asking for people to not squad. But it would be very much better if there was a mode where solos didn't have to come up against squads. It used to be that solos didn't actually have to most of the time. But as a solo I can assure you these days, squads are the order of the day in virtually every match and I'm always on the other team. I had 5 battles in a row today, all losses. I left all but the last one, but that was a loss as well. I KNOW when they will be losses, because I've become adept at detecting when the battle is that one-sided right from the start. So I leave when I detect it, simple. Problem is, it's most battles now. It used to be just the odd few... There might be a point to all this if the battles were evenly matched but they never are. ALL battles are stomps. Either you're in one of the stomping squads or you're on the other team and you're stomped. Doesn't take much to win if you're on the stomping side....
It's a good idea to have a solos only match but I don't squad to stomp. I squad because other people make this game fun. It's too boring just playing alone
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1021
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:24:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Soooooo.... Your point? Dust will end soon. Why even bother saving your suits? This is just qq because you're getting stomped.
No I'm not saving suits! I have plenty of ISK, plenty of suits. I just can't stand the sort of tactics people are using now!
I'd rather do something else, which is what I'm doing more and more now. Point is, by the last day, I probably won't even bother logging in. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1021
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:25:00 -
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five times wrote:i play solo, but im the opposite to the OP
i hate being on the stomping team
i prefer to be on the weak team, the positives are endless, ill list a few
1) you dont have to go looking for someone to shoot
2) its a good test of your stealth skills to sneak up on a squad from behind, and melee or knife them
3) its a good challemger, i rather go 11/19 against decent opposition, than get a boring 8/0 shooting fish in a barrel (the barrel surrounded by 10 shooters aiming for the same fish)
No you miss my point. I think everyone has missed my point.
I find the type of tactics that this game has degenerated into in order to win just disgusting. I'd rather not play than have to see it.
This is not any sort of game that's enjoyable for someone who refuses to sink to that level. |
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1021
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:27:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Coward.
Ha! Because I won't play against a bunch of OP nitwits in roaming gangs that have teamed up against a team of noobs and solos?!!
I can tell you who the coward is. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1021
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:32:00 -
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Another observation I can make from all this is that this game is obviously completely NOT for me! I can see how I would enjoy a FPS because I enjoy tactics and enjoy accuracy, etc, all the things that supposedly makes this game good.
What I don't enjoy is anything to do with roaming gangs, which is what the qsyncing squads have degenerated into, using exploits that should never have been left in the game and probably wouldn't have if it wasn't finishing. There are a lot of things I could do in this game but won't because I find them disgusting. But if they are the things I would need to do to win, then I'm not interested anyway.
I find a lot of what's going on now infantile and puerile. It looks like a bunch of kids just running rampant. That's probably exactly what it is, for most. I'm glad you lot are enjoying it. It's ruining the game for the rest. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1021
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:36:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:
It's a good idea to have a solos only match but I don't squad to stomp. I squad because other people make this game fun. It's too boring just playing alone
I have a very specific reason I don't squad. If I did, I'd be on the stomping team. That's the way this game works.
I refuse to participate in stomping. End of story. |
2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
1174
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:40:00 -
[34] - Quote
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Last thing i expected on the last week is a "omg too much stomp" post. Since we're kickin it old school...
Gg, scrub. Welcome to New Eden
Under 20db
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1021
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Posted - 2016.05.26 06:43:00 -
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2Berries wrote:The more things change, the more they stay the same. Last thing i expected on the last week is a "omg too much stomp" post. Since we're kickin it old school...
Gg, scrub. Welcome to New Eden
Under 20db
You might be. I'm not. I never intended to participate in this free-for-all. I'll be leaving it up to you guys. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1022
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Posted - 2016.05.26 11:13:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Yeah. I've never left a battle before, I don't care if my team is getting stomped and it is 4v12 (true story). The only times I ever leave a battle is either when I get dced or when I have a PC I need to do.
You can say whatever you want, but you are just a quitter. I'm not, no matter the consequences. I know this because I've gotten 20+ deaths before just trying to push out of the redline.
#internet honor Sorry but I've got better things to do. If by leaving a battle that's pointless and I'm achieving nothing, I'm a quitter, then so be it. I'd rather quit any number of those battles to try to find a decent one where people aren't using every single exploit they can to win at any cost. If I can't find one within a reasonable time and number of battles, I just switch off and go do something else. Are you salty that I headshotted you from <30 meters with a Tac Sniper on an Amarr Light Frame ak.0?
I do remember you now, Blaziken! We were on the bridge in a map where the objective is in front of the bridge and the Null cannon at the back of it. You took aim at me from there while I was firing my MLT MAGSEC at you. I'm quite sure I was a sitting duck at that range, but well done anyway. ;)
No I didn't countersnipe you - the snipers on that map are usually way up on top of the tower or away in the distance on the cliffs to either side. I usually don't tactical snipe, so I would have gone to one of those positions probably. When I went to redeploy there were no uplinks and I had to go back to base.
Now, next time, snipe me from one of the usual sniper spots and I promise I'll countersnipe you. ;) |
Milita Mable
CYBER COBRAS ALT
137
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Posted - 2016.05.26 12:38:00 -
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I WISH I COULD PLAY AMBUSH
Yet I cannot because I would be waiting 10+mins to get a match during my personal gaming time.
Hence why all the ambush like quality and players. |
gunman stylze
Random Gunz
The-Office
60
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:03:00 -
[38] - Quote
Stupid Blueberry wrote:Coward.
Caldari |
One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
15672
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Posted - 2016.05.26 15:28:00 -
[39] - Quote
Milita Mable wrote:I WISH I COULD PLAY AMBUSH
Yet I cannot because I would be waiting 10+mins to get a match during my personal gaming time.
Hence why all the ambush like quality and players.
Ground War under Other Contracts is Ambush. There may be another one too.
Less waiting.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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XxBlazikenxX
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
5232
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Posted - 2016.05.26 17:19:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Yeah. I've never left a battle before, I don't care if my team is getting stomped and it is 4v12 (true story). The only times I ever leave a battle is either when I get dced or when I have a PC I need to do.
You can say whatever you want, but you are just a quitter. I'm not, no matter the consequences. I know this because I've gotten 20+ deaths before just trying to push out of the redline.
#internet honor Sorry but I've got better things to do. If by leaving a battle that's pointless and I'm achieving nothing, I'm a quitter, then so be it. I'd rather quit any number of those battles to try to find a decent one where people aren't using every single exploit they can to win at any cost. If I can't find one within a reasonable time and number of battles, I just switch off and go do something else. Are you salty that I headshotted you from <30 meters with a Tac Sniper on an Amarr Light Frame ak.0? lol Was that you?! :) You were the only one to snipe me today. I went after you in my Hawk sniper fit later, unless there was someone else. But the game was over before I could take you out! No, I'm not salty over being sniped. I just countersnipe back. I started in this game as a sniper so woe betide anyone silly enough to snipe me. :) Edit: Ah there was one more. I didn't countersnipe you if that was you. I deployed somewhere else I think.
The funny part was that I was actually countersniping myself. I was on the null cannon trying to get a Commando on the tall tower when I saw a bunch of reds pushing the walkway so I shot in that direction and got a headshot on you with a TSR.
Rule #1 of Dust 514:
If you get hatemail, you are doing something right.
#Imperiumftw
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
781
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Posted - 2016.05.26 20:36:00 -
[41] - Quote
I'm enjoying the endless stomps. Plenty of expensive suits to murder.
Even with the clearly better competition I'm doing better KDR wise than I ever have before.
Dustkillz and chill
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1033
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Posted - 2016.05.26 21:17:00 -
[42] - Quote
Milita Mable wrote:I WISH I COULD PLAY AMBUSH
Yet I cannot because I would be waiting 10+mins to get a match during my personal gaming time.
Hence why all the ambush like quality and players.
Yes, that's what I think is the problem! All the Ambush players are now turning the other modes into Ambush.
I usually only play Dom and Skirm, because they feel like the closest to being some sort of defined goal to fight for. I now regularly see the opposing team completely ignoring hacking the objectives to just obliterate my team and therefore win through clone depletion.
Wouldn't it be so much better for them all to just p!ss off back to Ambush and leave the rest of the modes to people who really want to play them?
For that matter, wouldn't it be better off for such OP players to be fighting each other in FW?
Neither will happen now, sadly. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1033
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Posted - 2016.05.26 21:20:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Yeah. I've never left a battle before, I don't care if my team is getting stomped and it is 4v12 (true story). The only times I ever leave a battle is either when I get dced or when I have a PC I need to do.
You can say whatever you want, but you are just a quitter. I'm not, no matter the consequences. I know this because I've gotten 20+ deaths before just trying to push out of the redline.
#internet honor Sorry but I've got better things to do. If by leaving a battle that's pointless and I'm achieving nothing, I'm a quitter, then so be it. I'd rather quit any number of those battles to try to find a decent one where people aren't using every single exploit they can to win at any cost. If I can't find one within a reasonable time and number of battles, I just switch off and go do something else. Are you salty that I headshotted you from <30 meters with a Tac Sniper on an Amarr Light Frame ak.0? lol Was that you?! :) You were the only one to snipe me today. I went after you in my Hawk sniper fit later, unless there was someone else. But the game was over before I could take you out! No, I'm not salty over being sniped. I just countersnipe back. I started in this game as a sniper so woe betide anyone silly enough to snipe me. :) Edit: Ah there was one more. I didn't countersnipe you if that was you. I deployed somewhere else I think. The funny part was that I was actually countersniping myself. I was on the null cannon trying to get a Commando on the tall tower when I saw a bunch of reds pushing the walkway so I shot in that direction and got a headshot on you with a TSR.
Yep, that was you. ;)
I remember thinking what the hell was a sniper doing down here. So I shot at you. We must have been losing by that time, because I remember it was my MLT MAGSEC, probably on my Rasetsu. I also remember thinking I wasn't going to finish you off before you got a good shot in.
The rest is history! :) |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1033
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Posted - 2016.05.26 21:31:00 -
[44] - Quote
LOL KILLZ wrote:I'm enjoying the endless stomps. Plenty of expensive suits to murder. Even with the clearly better competition I'm doing better KDR wise than I ever have before.
I've finally gotten over my dislike of "wasting" expensive suits. I usually run CalAss ck.0 these days, and I'm having fun trying all sorts of different shield configs to see which ones die slower. I still won't just throw suit after suit at a losing battle, but if I'm at least enjoying myself, I'll stick around with a BPO fit. If I'm not enjoying it, that's when I decide it's not worth my time and effort to stay.
I couldn't give a damn for the people that think it's not honourable to leave the battle, or whatever. Most losing battles are down to less than 10 on my team by the end anyway. In the time I would have stuck around wasting effort on the loss, I could have been (and usually am) playing other more enjoyable battles.
What the stompers don't realise (or don't care about) is that they might be enjoying their stomping, but the stomped don't enjoy it, and leave accordingly. Maybe not all of them, but enough to make the battle so ridiculously one-sided that there's no longer any real achievement in the stomping, except in the minds of the stompers, who somehow see such battles as a "win", and perhaps in the minds of those that are left trying to push out of the redline. If you can achieve that, I think you're really doing something good. Otherwise it's just a waste of time and effort, especially when everyone else has already left. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1033
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Posted - 2016.05.26 22:42:00 -
[45] - Quote
gunman stylze wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Coward. Caldari
Caldari aren't cowards! Running away is just part of their fighting style.
They call it "kiting".  |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
ZEN KILL Society
9197
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Posted - 2016.05.27 17:30:00 -
[46] - Quote
u suk
News, lads! our wars are done.
The desperate tempest hath so bang'd the Amarr,
That their designment halts (get r3kt)
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2783
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Posted - 2016.05.30 01:23:00 -
[47] - Quote
Alena Asakura wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Soooooo.... Your point? Dust will end soon. Why even bother saving your suits? This is just qq because you're getting stomped. No I'm not saving suits! I have plenty of ISK, plenty of suits. I just can't stand the sort of tactics people are using now! I'd rather do something else, which is what I'm doing more and more now. Point is, by the last day, I probably won't even bother logging in.
This is dust. The game destined to die not with a bang,but with a whimper.
Yet hidden in the ashes is a small light.
But right now it doesnt matter. Its the end days. Quit and qq about it. Its not gonna bother anyone about it. We'll jist laugh at you. GG scrub.
Am ded.
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1052
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Posted - 2016.05.30 07:34:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Soooooo.... Your point? Dust will end soon. Why even bother saving your suits? This is just qq because you're getting stomped. No I'm not saving suits! I have plenty of ISK, plenty of suits. I just can't stand the sort of tactics people are using now! I'd rather do something else, which is what I'm doing more and more now. Point is, by the last day, I probably won't even bother logging in. This is dust. The game destined to die not with a bang,but with a whimper. Yet hidden in the ashes is a small light. But right now it doesnt matter. Its the end days. Quit and qq about it. Its not gonna bother anyone about it. We'll jist laugh at you. GG scrub.
I did actually log in today, for the hell of it. I didn't get that many good battles but I did get one.
Yes, you probably would laugh at me. I think that sort of says a lot about the general mentality of Dust. It's a really awful game, wildly unbalanced, and not at all enjoyable for a solo. This game should simply not be available to solos, but since it is, the squads stomp them. That's the reason I won't squad - I won't participate in that.
But you'd laugh at that, too, I suppose. That's OK. I laugh at the fact you guys think this is a good game. :)
Anyway I had one decent battle today. I stuck out the battles more than I usually would. When I would normally leave at the first sign of stomping, I stuck around. What got me to leave the battles I did leave was stupid blueberries not even attempting to capture the point, just sitting on the sidelines while seemingly only I was the one getting slaughtered again and again.
But that one good battle made up for all the rest. I'll remember it as probably the best of my last battles on Dust.
Now I'll go back to EvE and you can laugh at me for that too. |
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