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FraggerMike wrote:

maybe deadcatz wrote:

FraggerMike wrote:

maybe deadcatz wrote:

Words that are meant to explain the same things that people have been saying for the past months why the frack did you not pay attaention to those conversations.

Hhmmm... have any of "those conversations" resulted in answering my questions?
If I've somehow missed that, kindly show me the link.

Im not gonna dig through the hellhole that is GD for some random links of the cpm saying none of that transfer bs. If you looked at the forums maybe twice a week in the past 2 months youd actaully be up to date with this kind of information.

And why should ccp let you keep all of your sp\isk? Who knows how nova's progression system will work.
Why should some players start out the game having already finished it?
The most theyve promised is "tiered prgression rewards" and we all know its just comsetics and maybe a booster of some type.

And all of that has been discusssed over several threads that littered gd for a good few weeks after the anouncment about dust shutting down.

1) "...twice a week..." How about daily? Not 1 single word from CCP of what I've asked. PLENTY of opinions from players, tho.

2) "...why should ccp..." Why not? Although in reality, the only important consideration is the ISK that Corps have spent years acquiring. If Project Nova is not going to be tied into the Eve economy, then there would be no reason to not let the Corps keep it.

3) " ...all of that has..." been nothing more than just talk, no answers.

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FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 327	Posted - 2016.04.22 12:43:00 - [1] - Quote Somebody, somewhere, has to have the answers. 1) Isk, Aurum, SP: What, if any, will be transferred to Nova? And if any is transferred, what will be the conversion rate? We all need to know this now, before Dust514 shuts down. If any/all get transferred, then all is good. If any/all will not get transferred, or will be converted to be more in line with Eve equivalents, we NEED to know this. Pointedly: Do we burn it all down to dust, or can we expect to carry that over? And, on a side thought: If Nova is to begin within the confines of ships and/or buildings, can we expect vastly more open space than what the demo illustrated? This I ask for the Sniper, ForgeGun, and MassDriver, as well as the vehicle, players - whom simply would not be able to play their role in such a confined area such as depicted in the demo. (Would be rather humorous, tho, to watch the Myofib users in that confined arena) CCP, can you do us the honor of giving us that info, so that we can all plan accordingly? CEO of G.R.A.V.E
james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 323	Posted - 2016.04.22 12:49:00 - [2] - Quote I agree, we need to know, but i personally don't think any of that will be transferred over. From what i can gather, they're trying something new, while keeping some of dusts nostalgia there, if that's the case, why would they transfer the data? n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR DEPLOYMENTGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë
StarVenger Horizons' Edge The-Office 299	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:21:00 - [3] - Quote Answer: NOTHING!!!! AKA Meisterjager Jagermeister L1 FW GallAss to the CORE---Founder of Serpentis UNION of the SNAKE Horizons' Edge FTW
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 13789	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:22:00 - [4] - Quote I don't have a definitive quote from anyone, but I would guess that exactly 0% of your ISK will transfer. Same goes for assets, except for maybe SKINs. #PortDust514
Lord Vahzz 266	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:24:00 - [5] - Quote You are allowed ONE d1ck pic There is a fine line between not listening and not caring, I like to think i walk that line every day of my life.
Kaughst Nyain San 839	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:25:00 - [6] - Quote Do you know what is funny. There has never been a promise to transfer over items or ISK ect from Dust to Project Nova. "Remember: no matter the circumstances, there will always be people willing to push you down a hole."
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 327	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:26:00 - [7] - Quote Yea... :\| SP - I can deal with that, not likely useable in Nova. Aurum - same, didn't pay cash for it, doesn't bother me to loose it. ISK - that, tho, is a different matter. My own personal ISK is irrelevant, but I don't think any Corporation should just loose that simply for not knowing that it will not transfer. We need to know whether to keep the Corp ISK, or spend it down before the end. CEO of G.R.A.V.E
Jack Boost Zarena Family 1097	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:29:00 - [8] - Quote Thing is.... there will be NO need to transfer anything. Sad but true. All our stuff will be useless in Nova. This game seams to be easy/flat on all aspect. (that you don't need anyting form Dust 514) Just choose your colne and die. Only K/D and win ration will be stats that people care and this you make by playing Nova. Not much time left...
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 327	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:32:00 - [9] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Thing is.... there will be NO need to transfer anything. Sad but true. All our stuff will be useless in Nova. This game seams to be easy/flat on all aspect. (that you don't need anyting form Dust 514) Just choose your colne and die. Only K/D and win ration will be stats that people care and this you make by playing Nova. Sorry, but can't agree with that. ISK is THE money of EVE/Dust, and any other New Eden game. K/D is completely irrelevant. CEO of G.R.A.V.E
Jack Boost Zarena Family 1097	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:46:00 - [10] - Quote Even now Eve ISK are different then Dust ISK. If in new game (Nova) you can't buy anything to use (like in Dust we have ...) any 'name' of currency ISK, AUR, Silver etc are useles there. Any BPC/BPO thay you have now are useles in Nova because only skins are matter in future game. You want red or black ammar buy it and shine ... but this don't have any impact at what this ammar will be (CPU,armor, speed etc) Nova is lack about this aspect.. lore.. RPG... anyting. Choose RED clone and die... have fun... leave money.. thank you. Not much time left...

FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 327	Posted - 2016.04.22 13:54:00 - [11] - Quote Too many "ifs". Speculation won't do us any good if we're wrong or even right. There has been zero info so far regarding any transfer of anything, hence my questions. I rarely ask questions of CCP, I have hopes I'll actually get some kind of answer this time though. CEO of G.R.A.V.E
StarVenger Horizons' Edge The-Office 299	Posted - 2016.04.22 15:46:00 - [12] - Quote DUST is dead. All DUST related assets are VAPOR! They die with the game. NOVA is NOT a continuation of DUST. NOVA is NOT a continuation of DUST. NOVA is NOT a continuation of DUST. NOVA is NOT even a game yet, just a neat idea they are kicking around. AKA Meisterjager Jagermeister L1 FW GallAss to the CORE---Founder of Serpentis UNION of the SNAKE Horizons' Edge FTW
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15152	Posted - 2016.04.22 19:56:00 - [13] - Quote Nvm Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2671	Posted - 2016.04.22 23:32:00 - [14] - Quote Words that are meant to explain the same things that people have been saying for the past months why the frack did you not pay attaention to those conversations. Am ded.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15155	Posted - 2016.04.22 23:47:00 - [15] - Quote FraggerMike wrote: Yea... :\| SP - I can deal with that, not likely useable in Nova. Aurum - same, didn't pay cash for it, doesn't bother me to loose it. ISK - that, tho, is a different matter. My own personal ISK is irrelevant, but I don't think any Corporation should just loose that simply for not knowing that it will not transfer. We need to know whether to keep the Corp ISK, or spend it down before the end. The economy was too broken. PC was just one big fountain of ISK for awhile, and trying to shoe horn the effects of that broken system into the next game will only make that broken too. Of anything that may carry over, ISK is least likely to be considered. Spend it all. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
RedPencil Random Gunz The-Office 238	Posted - 2016.04.22 23:49:00 - [16] - Quote My name must live! Beware Paper cut M[;..;]M
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 967	Posted - 2016.04.23 07:09:00 - [17] - Quote In my opinion our names are not even going to be safe in Nova unless CCP pulls some witchcraft. Our logins are all stored on PSN and then a validation token attaches us to our character on TQ. With Dust shutting down I can not imagine any good reason for Sony to continue to manage logins for CCP. Ideally, CCP will put up a page that we use PSN to login to and then create a TQ login but that leaves any player that misses the open window for those "signups" getting seriously burned. "Hey Sony, thanks for managing our players' accounts for a few years we are just going to go ahead and have them login one last time and drag them over to PC!" Maybe if CCP asks nicely....... Having Valkyrie on Sony gives a possibility of CCP retaining the ability for players to login through the web portal but I do not see that going over well with Sony. Outside of using Sony as the login system players who signed up for the newsletter, and only players who signed up for the newsletter, could go through a process of validating their email to take ownership of their account. Again this leaves a large portion of players out in the cold. If this is not something that they have a well thought out plan for already (lol) it is not going to be pretty when the time comes to login to Nova. Take the time between Dust shutting down and the possible Nova alpha to forget Dust ever existed, you will be better off that way. See you SoonGäó
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 327	Posted - 2016.04.26 11:44:00 - [18] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Words that are meant to explain the same things that people have been saying for the past months why the frack did you not pay attaention to those conversations. Hhmmm... have any of "those conversations" resulted in answering my questions? If I've somehow missed that, kindly show me the link. CEO of G.R.A.V.E
7th Son 7 Hakuna Matatah Inc 1630	Posted - 2016.04.26 17:12:00 - [19] - Quote RedPencil wrote: My name must live! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFL7kDo7rLw Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7654	Posted - 2016.04.26 18:59:00 - [20] - Quote Neither the market nor the progressions system has been built yet, so it is a bit premature to be asking about ISK, AUR, and SP transfers. Best to assume they will not be transferred. I am hoping we can transfer our names though. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

byte modal 709	Posted - 2016.04.26 19:23:00 - [21] - Quote FraggerMike wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Words that are meant to explain the same things that people have been saying for the past months why the frack did you not pay attaention to those conversations. Hhmmm... have any of "those conversations" resulted in answering my questions? If I've somehow missed that, kindly show me the link. The same answers given during those discussions are the same today as they were then. Speculation. Even THAT was under the LEGION game. If an answer existed it would have been given long before now. Most of us have resigned to the very real possibility that nothing transfers. No disappointment that way. Maybe a tiered reward system. Maybe. Still speculation as to what that means. Or if it's even still an option. Also, you have a few likes already so clearly you're not new to these forums. Deadcatz point still stands. kitten bacon taco (nom)
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2718	Posted - 2016.04.27 02:04:00 - [22] - Quote FraggerMike wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Words that are meant to explain the same things that people have been saying for the past months why the frack did you not pay attaention to those conversations. Hhmmm... have any of "those conversations" resulted in answering my questions? If I've somehow missed that, kindly show me the link. Im not gonna dig through the hellhole that is GD for some random links of the cpm saying none of that transfer bs. If you looked at the forums maybe twice a week in the past 2 months youd actaully be up to date with this kind of information. And why should ccp let you keep all of your sp\isk? Who knows how nova's progression system will work. Why should some players start out the game having already finished it? The most theyve promised is "tiered prgression rewards" and we all know its just comsetics and maybe a booster of some type. And all of that has been discusssed over several threads that littered gd for a good few weeks after the anouncment about dust shutting down. Am ded.
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 556	Posted - 2016.04.27 02:16:00 - [23] - Quote I am assuming it will not carry over, it seems to make the most sense to me. Twitch & YouTube
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 331	Posted - 2016.04.27 15:44:00 - [24] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: FraggerMike wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Words that are meant to explain the same things that people have been saying for the past months why the frack did you not pay attaention to those conversations. Hhmmm... have any of "those conversations" resulted in answering my questions? If I've somehow missed that, kindly show me the link. Im not gonna dig through the hellhole that is GD for some random links of the cpm saying none of that transfer bs. If you looked at the forums maybe twice a week in the past 2 months youd actaully be up to date with this kind of information. And why should ccp let you keep all of your sp\isk? Who knows how nova's progression system will work. Why should some players start out the game having already finished it? The most theyve promised is "tiered prgression rewards" and we all know its just comsetics and maybe a booster of some type. And all of that has been discusssed over several threads that littered gd for a good few weeks after the anouncment about dust shutting down. 1) "...twice a week..." How about daily? Not 1 single word from CCP of what I've asked. PLENTY of opinions from players, tho. 2) "...why should ccp..." Why not? Although in reality, the only important consideration is the ISK that Corps have spent years acquiring. If Project Nova is not going to be tied into the Eve economy, then there would be no reason to not let the Corps keep it. 3) " ...all of that has..." been nothing more than just talk, no answers. CEO of G.R.A.V.E
byte modal 712	Posted - 2016.04.27 16:12:00 - [25] - Quote FraggerMike wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: FraggerMike wrote: maybe deadcatz wrote: Words that are meant to explain the same things that people have been saying for the past months why the frack did you not pay attaention to those conversations. Hhmmm... have any of "those conversations" resulted in answering my questions? If I've somehow missed that, kindly show me the link. Im not gonna dig through the hellhole that is GD for some random links of the cpm saying none of that transfer bs. If you looked at the forums maybe twice a week in the past 2 months youd actaully be up to date with this kind of information. And why should ccp let you keep all of your sp\isk? Who knows how nova's progression system will work. Why should some players start out the game having already finished it? The most theyve promised is "tiered prgression rewards" and we all know its just comsetics and maybe a booster of some type. And all of that has been discusssed over several threads that littered gd for a good few weeks after the anouncment about dust shutting down. 1) "...twice a week..." How about daily? Not 1 single word from CCP of what I've asked. PLENTY of opinions from players, tho. 2) "...why should ccp..." Why not? Although in reality, the only important consideration is the ISK that Corps have spent years acquiring. If Project Nova is not going to be tied into the Eve economy, then there would be no reason to not let the Corps keep it. 3) " ...all of that has..." been nothing more than just talk, no answers. 1. That's the point. There are no answers that you want to hear. The fact that nothing is being said is, in and of itself, an answer. Your choices are: assume in blind faith without proof that assets will transfer then be bitterly disappointed when you log into a game that is yet to exist, or be greenlit beyond a demo state; or realize the impractical idea of carrying assets from one game to a completely other game. Look at it from this standpoint: the game does not exist and may never exist. The odds are a bit more than just against you holding out for transfer states. 2. ISK has a tarnished history through exploits. Even if ill-gotten gains will not be connected to EVE proper, it will still affect the internal economy of the game that still does not exist, creating an uneven distribution of wealth on first login. Why wade through that muck? It's a new game. It's not DUST514 Part II. Wipe the slate, learn from the mistakes, and move forward. wipes hands clean 3. See point 1. =\ kitten bacon taco (nom)


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