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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.04.21 13:50:00 -
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Why did you not just go ahead and launch on PS4 where you only have 1 hardware configuration to work with?
The reason going to PC sounded good was because it provided better scaling ability and more growth potential. Now we find out you are throwing away at least many parts of what that growth potential was.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2016.04.21 14:10:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Why did you not just go ahead and launch on PS4 where you only have 1 hardware configuration to work with?
The reason going to PC sounded good was because it provided better scaling ability and more growth potential. Now we find out you are throwing away at least many parts of what that growth potential was.
Maybe we get cool new Perks with a Update!
Yeah. Seriously... I don't see why they needed PC with a small scale project like this... an arena shooter.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2664
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Posted - 2016.04.21 14:12:00 -
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I should just code a bot to find every thread related to nova and have it autorespond with "its a f#cking basic demo,just to show you some notion of their progress"
Am ded.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2016.04.21 14:13:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Why did you not just go ahead and launch on PS4 where you only have 1 hardware configuration to work with?
The reason going to PC sounded good was because it provided better scaling ability and more growth potential. Now we find out you are throwing away at least many parts of what that growth potential was.
And you forgot to mention that the vision they had for Dust was not reachable on consoles, which yes, made me a bit upset at first (being mainly a console player) but then i thought that if it was going to be the epic massive shooter they envisioned at first, well, it's ok.
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
833
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Posted - 2016.04.21 14:14:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:I should just code a bot to find every thread related to nova and have it autorespond with "its a f#cking basic demo,just to show you some notion of their progress" So you can automate the fact that you're ignoring the fact they actually said they're scaling back things like MMO? |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
906
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Posted - 2016.04.21 14:15:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Why did you not just go ahead and launch on PS4 where you only have 1 hardware configuration to work with?
The reason going to PC sounded good was because it provided better scaling ability and more growth potential. Now we find out you are throwing away at least many parts of what that growth potential was.
And you forgot to mention that the vision they had for Dust was not reachable on consoles, which yes, made me a bit upset at first (being mainly a console player) but then i thought that if it was going to be the epic massive shooter they envisioned at first, well, it's ok.
Meanwhile all they ended up saying was that they are scaling back and going away from that vision. |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.04.21 15:01:00 -
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.....Broken hearts, so fast? Project Nova is nowhere near its development stage yet, so we haven't really seen anything to judge.
But,... ugh, even if there was enough to see, we were warned. Rattati warned us. Don't look forward to "Dust on PC" From my own perspective of playing on a game console for roughly 2 decades, and playing Dust for nearly 3 years... Dust 514 needed the "barbarian", "raw", "ultra-focused" combat-mindedness that Console gamers grew up with in their games for years. No matter how "graphically fast" the PC software could get, PC gameplay has always been smooth, laid-back combat (remember the old Star Trek fps games on PC? Like that. Picard and Geordi CALMLY trotting around shooting Ferengi players in hallways).
Dust 514 tried to merge TWO different minded players (PC players calculating in spaceships---Console players butchering clone-meat on a surface)...both needing each other to win something. That psychology of players can't be reproduced with everyone playing their respective game on PC. The visceral experience of the butchering-game, really needed a Console. No matter how much PC devs scoff and spit on the concept, I always thought CCP's attempt to do this thing on a Console (PS3, Xbox, ANY console), was the right thing to try.
How can you expect something as elaborate as what Dust was developing into, to make grow on PC next to an EVE game that has players vested in assets for 10 years? Any game on PC would have to be "Light", like Valkarie, or Gunjack. Exciting enough to give some New Eden feeling, but gentle enough not to rock the boat and start knocking EVE Online capsuleers off their possessions and districts.
Maybe Dust 514 was WAY far ahead of its time, and can't exist without the same hardware separation from Eve Online that many designers kept saying was its weakness. Maybe being on a Console platform, WAS Dust's greatest opportunity for success. I don't know. I'm an office girl, not a game dev.
I'm not really expecting the "Nova" to develop into anything too Dust-elaborate and Dust-deep. No, it's not dumbed down. But it probably NEEDS to stay as lightweight as Valkarie. Promote through the ranks, shoot stuff you see in front of you, and swap out some modules on your guns to change their performance. That's pretty much all that Valkarie does, right?
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
29339
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Posted - 2016.04.21 15:04:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:I should just code a bot to find every thread related to nova and have it autorespond with "its a f#cking basic demo,just to show you some notion of their progress"
Will this be the new "It's just a beta"?
Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.04.21 16:56:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:I should just code a bot to find every thread related to nova and have it autorespond with "its a f#cking basic demo,just to show you some notion of their progress" It's not the demo that is the problem....
There was an interview afterwards, during which Rattati had the opportunity to assuage any fears or misgivings.
So far, from what has been said, there is nothing to suggest that a great deal more is in the pipeline.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
2967
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:10:00 -
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:.....Broken hearts, so fast? Project Nova is nowhere near its development stage yet, so we haven't really seen anything to judge.
But,... ugh, even if there was enough to see, we were warned. Rattati warned us. Don't look forward to "Dust on PC" From my own perspective of playing on a game console for roughly 2 decades, and playing Dust for nearly 3 years... Dust 514 needed the "barbarian", "raw", "ultra-focused" combat-mindedness that Console gamers grew up with in their games for years. No matter how "graphically fast" the PC software could get, PC gameplay has always been smooth, laid-back combat (remember the old Star Trek fps games on PC? Like that. Picard and Geordi CALMLY trotting around shooting Ferengi players in hallways).
Dust 514 tried to merge TWO different minded players (PC players calculating in spaceships---Console players butchering clone-meat on a surface)...both needing each other to win something. That psychology of players can't be reproduced with everyone playing their respective game on PC. The visceral experience of the butchering-game, really needed a Console. No matter how much PC devs scoff and spit on the concept, I always thought CCP's attempt to do this thing on a Console (PS3, Xbox, ANY console), was the right thing to try.
How can you expect something as elaborate as what Dust was developing into, to make grow on PC next to an EVE game that has players vested in assets for 10 years? Any game on PC would have to be "Light", like Valkarie, or Gunjack. Exciting enough to give some New Eden feeling, but gentle enough not to rock the boat and start knocking EVE Online capsuleers off their possessions and districts.
Maybe Dust 514 was WAY far ahead of its time, and can't exist without the same hardware separation from Eve Online that many designers kept saying was its weakness. Maybe being on a Console platform, WAS Dust's greatest opportunity for success. I don't know. I'm an office girl, not a game dev.
I'm not really expecting the "Nova" to develop into anything too Dust-elaborate and Dust-deep. No, it's not dumbed down. But it probably NEEDS to stay as lightweight as Valkarie. Promote through the ranks, shoot stuff you see in front of you, and swap out some modules on your guns to change their performance. That's pretty much all that Valkarie does, right?
Youoverestimate how differently PC and console players think.
Quote:"barbarian", "raw", "ultra-focused" combat-mindedness that Console gamers grew up with in their games
This doesn't exist. There are only people on both platforms who like different kind of games. Console gamers are no magical ego shooter prone people who are so good at it. Also you don't seem to know many Eve players.
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6413
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:14:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Why did you not just go ahead and launch on PS4 where you only have 1 hardware configuration to work with?
The reason going to PC sounded good was because it provided better scaling ability and more growth potential. Now we find out you are throwing away at least many parts of what that growth potential was.
Maybe we get cool new Perks with a Update! Yeah. Seriously... I don't see why they needed PC with a small scale project like this... an arena shooter.
Now it just means nobody will be able to blame the platform when CCP Shanghai **** up. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12903
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Posted - 2016.04.21 17:25:00 -
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Calm?
Calculating?
Have you ever actually played an FPS or operated with angry EVE players???
Imagine a gigantic, shiny bug zapper.
Embrace your destiny.
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