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Killface Hunt
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2016.03.28 17:59:00 -
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TBH the last balancing pass did a pretty good job. It's kind of too little too late I know, but things seem to be at their best balance in the history of the game.
The lack of crying on the forum about Op stuff has been minimal since the final pass. Huge surprise to me.
Plenty of weapon/suit/vehicle set-ups are Op within their niche, but the overall balance seems quite good.
With the exception of jumpy cunts suits (dust cancer) is there anything you think is still not balanced correctly? |
Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.28 18:01:00 -
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Killface Hunt wrote:
The lack of crying on the forum about Op stuff has been minimal since the final pass. Huge surprise to me.
That's largely due to no one really caring enough anymore.
Farewell DUST
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2016.03.28 18:03:00 -
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Killface Hunt wrote:TBH the last balancing pass did a pretty good job. It's kind of too little too late I know, but things seem to be at their best balance in the history of the game.
The lack of crying on the forum about Op stuff has been minimal since the final pass. Huge surprise to me.
Plenty of weapon/suit/vehicle set-ups are Op within their niche, but the overall balance seems quite good.
With the exception of jumpy cunts suits (dust cancer) is there anything you think is still not balanced correctly?
the Tamsen
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Killface Hunt
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2016.03.28 18:03:00 -
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Murder Medic wrote:Killface Hunt wrote:
The lack of crying on the forum about Op stuff has been minimal since the final pass. Huge surprise to me.
That's largely due to no one really caring enough anymore.
You.are probably right that. A lot of the old forum qq elite have left. Most of the current forum warriors don't even play anyone. |
Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
734
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Posted - 2016.03.28 18:05:00 -
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Killface Hunt wrote:Murder Medic wrote:Killface Hunt wrote:
The lack of crying on the forum about Op stuff has been minimal since the final pass. Huge surprise to me.
That's largely due to no one really caring enough anymore. You.are probably right that. A lot of the old forum qq elite have left. Most of the current forum warriors don't even play anyone.
I'm one of those qq elite, I just don't have the energy or passion for this now closed game to bother anymore lol.
I'll start up in earnest again if we do actually see that port 
Farewell DUST
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Killface Hunt
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2016.03.28 18:09:00 -
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My point (as someone who has been here since closed beta, and never much of a forum warrior) is that "in game" it seems more balanced than it ever has been as long as you don't end up against a team of jumpers.
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Murder Medic
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
734
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Posted - 2016.03.28 18:13:00 -
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Killface Hunt wrote:My point (as someone who has been here since closed beta, and never much of a forum warrior) is that "in game" it seems more balanced than it ever has been as long as you don't end up against a team of jumpers.
I haven't played in months so I don't know where the meta is at, but it did seem fairly balanced so long as you stuck to the specific attack patterns required (HAV and Dropship).
Farewell DUST
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Sned TheDead
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2016.03.28 18:47:00 -
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I would argue that there is a tad too many people running the arr on gal suits, but that's just me running a scout and hating getting killed in two shots......
But for the most part, as long as you use a weapon in a way that complements it, it is pretty well balanced.
Hell to an extend even the jumpy assaults with mass drivers are balanced to a point, not perfectly so, but still.
RAIN!
Sned T. Dead
I am Undead
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Apocalyptic Destroyerr
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.03.28 20:27:00 -
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The LAV Glitch.
Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!!
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2016.03.28 21:00:00 -
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Sned TheDead wrote:I would argue that there is a tad too many people running the arr on gal suits, but that's just me running a scout and hating getting killed in two shots......
But for the most part, as long as you use a weapon in a way that complements it, it is pretty well balanced.
Hell to an extend even the jumpy assaults with mass drivers are balanced to a point, not perfectly so, but still.
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"A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
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Posted - 2016.03.28 22:36:00 -
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The game itself as far as suits bonuses and weapons are concerned are in my opinion reasonably balance. One thing does remains OP. Well, OP is not the right word but, its a problem that has persisted since day #1. This one constant has been and will forever be Scotty the drunken match maker. When you get into a battle where one team has an 80 clone advantage then you know there is a problem. It makes the game not fun for both sides.
My solution for the future is not to base match making completely on stats. Yes, this should be the base line but some adjustments should be made on a daily basis based on the persons performance. So, a person who is getting kill a lot and or leaving battle should get points deducted at least for the day kind of like this.
daily ranking = skill stats +/- today's performance.
This way if you are kicking butts left and right you should get a daily point boost that should match you with other OP players. If however, you are getting your butt handed to you that day then you should be put on a lower tier for that day.
Also, or alternatively the game should keep track of who you have played against for the day.
Or the game should take into account certain assets usage. I don't think its fun to play in an open map where one team have 3 tanks and the other teams don't even have 1 anti vehicle grenade. |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.03.29 01:47:00 -
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Throwing your PS3 in the closet and turning on your PS4 is OP AS S**T.
I even went a step further my PS3 does not even have a hard drive in it. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
742
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Posted - 2016.03.30 10:33:00 -
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What's still OP? Nothing. CCP nerfed anything that anyone thought was OP, so now nothing is. |
Paulus Phen502
Predators Pack
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Posted - 2016.03.30 11:08:00 -
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Are you kidding me? Ever heard of officer gear? They don't have it for all suits and the weapons are purposely designed to be unbalanced and promote the trading system. Bon's and Agimus prove that CCP only wants people to run Minm Assault. Ok maybe it's not that bad but it still favors certain fits.
"There's no stoppin' what can't be stopped, no killin' what can't be killed," King Willie Predator II.
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Killface Hunt
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2016.03.30 12:34:00 -
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Paulus Phen502 wrote:Are you kidding me? Ever heard of officer gear? They don't have it for all suits and the weapons are purposely designed to be unbalanced and promote the trading system. Bon's and Agimus prove that CCP only wants people to run Minm Assault. Ok maybe it's not that bad but it still favors certain fits.
True enough, but officer gear doesn't count in this instance. It's designed to be Op and you can't buy it on the market. |
Killface Hunt
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2016.03.30 12:37:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Throwing your PS3 in the closet and turning on your PS4 is OP AS S**T.
I even went a step further my PS3 does not even have a hard drive in it.
If only dust was on ps4. All I have to play on ps4 is games that don't come close. Granted they work beautify, and have no lag, and have better graphics, but they aren't quite dust.
With all its flaws, I still haven't found decent replacement for dust on the PS4. |
LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2016.03.30 14:23:00 -
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Grab your Assault suit proto type then put 3 complex Damps a kin cat or 2 and a shotgun. Go ham on your enemies.
HMG is my first love
SR my Sancha
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Killface Hunt
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2016.03.30 14:27:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Grab your Assault suit proto type then put 3 complex Damps a kin cat or 2 and a shotgun. Go ham on your enemies.
Righto, I'll give it a try if the servers ever work again. I have tons of bon's and exp shotties to burn. |
Killface Hunt
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2016.03.30 15:22:00 -
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MD spam still op |
Killface Hunt
TO THE DEATH
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Posted - 2016.03.30 15:25:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Grab your Assault suit proto type then put 3 complex Damps a kin cat or 2 and a shotgun. Go ham on your enemies.
Just tried it. Probably the wrong map for it but I feel that I could do better with a scout. Almost as much hp, just as fast. Still under the radar.
Was fun though, 1 hit kill on most with the exp. |
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Russel Mendoza
Klandatu
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Posted - 2016.03.30 23:14:00 -
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Murder Medic wrote:Killface Hunt wrote:
The lack of crying on the forum about Op stuff has been minimal since the final pass. Huge surprise to me.
That's largely due to no one really caring enough anymore.
Nobody is complaning about op this op that.
Because they all left when the universal biomass is announced.
My immortal body is getting tired.
My spirit is longing for Tamriel.
Enter oblivion or jumpgate to new eden.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.03.30 23:28:00 -
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If I remember correctly, from just before Phoenix was announced, according to Dust Thang (which is imperfect, but was the best source for data we had), usage rates for Assaults were insane.
There were more Assaults being used than Sentinels, Scouts, and Commandos COMBINED. While I think Assaults should be the most used suit, it should not be by as large a margin as what was shown in what data was available.
The reason you don't see it is because that kind of discussion is probably not relevant to Phoenix. We don't know the stats of suits, or even if Commandos will still be a role. For all we know, CCP looked at the data, and already adjusted suits to be more balanced.
Heck, we can't even be sure if the systems will be the same, or work the same way (like EWAR, which I would hope gets a complete overhaul, with Shared Passive Scans removed or greatly changed).
TL;DR Phoenix will be balanced based upon how it behaves when it launches, which will likely not come close to resembling the meta that is currently in Dust. Therefore whatever may currently seem OP is largely irrelevant.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2490
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Posted - 2016.03.31 01:16:00 -
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I'm still pretty OP. :)
Galassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout
Open Beta Vet - 54 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
ZEN KILL Society
9061
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Posted - 2016.03.31 03:14:00 -
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AV |
Slayer Deathbringer
Planetary Response Organisation
FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2016.03.31 03:43:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:AV
I agree but not all av just officer av Lai Dais and the lock-fire-forget swarm launcher
"It's not my fault that you lost a 1 mill isk suit to a 1k isk forge gun"
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