DUST Search - Ishukone Cloak Field...

Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:

Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:

Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:

While almost true, I'm going to assume (I may be wrong) that those players were new players or players with less experience. While it is true that you are less visible while not moving, many experienced players already know what to look for and will most of the time (at least in my case) spot you and kill you. Also, just hovering over someone still brings up the red crosshairs indicating an enemy is there. In some cases it's useful, like yours, but many times you might a counter the opposite.

I have never been able to have the crosshairs go red when over a cloaked player. Even actually hitting them by guessing doesn't do it. It seems it does appear belatedly which I expected as usual due to the lag delay of things loading. It is the same as players popping up on a passive scan. They just don't register until too close, then it's the same as if you didn't have the extra scan ability anyway.

God please let the server lag be less in the new game. I'd like to regularly experience what I have only periodically experienced in DUST; that magic time when I can actually stay on top of opponents because I'm the one with no lag and I get to watch them stand there for a whole second as I unload on them and then they die just as they register being hit.

I will get the money to put together that $600 PC if this game is worth it.

I hope Valkyrie can succeed too and be able to be played non-VR.

Excuse me but... Whuuuuut?????

The crosshairs should turn red when you hover over a cloaked enemy.

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Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 727	Posted - 2016.03.24 11:21:00 - [1] - Quote Is fantastic!! I've only had access to it for a couple of days and already, I'm discovering some amazing things about it. Like the fact that it's the longest duration of all the cloak fields, which in itself is great, but what it allows me to do is the trick. Just today, I got caught out by someone and just got away barely in time, switched to the cloak and ducked around the back of one of those water tower things the snipers like so much. As soon as I got out of sight of my pursuer, I just stopped dead still, testing something I'd seen before as well as heard - that you can only see a cloaked scout from the shimmer as they run - but standing still they seem almost invisible. I just stood there. As all his mates joined the search, running around and around looking for me, they seemed to be everywhere. But they didn't see me, and when they were finally gone, I took my escape. The Ishukone Cloak Field gave me enough time cloaked for a search team to look franticly for me, practically right at me at one point, missed me entirely, and then I escaped unscathed. The Ishukone Cloak Field also drops your profile down 10% from normal. This plus the long cycle time means I lived to harrass them further... ;)
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4479	Posted - 2016.03.24 12:16:00 - [2] - Quote While almost true, I'm going to assume (I may be wrong) that those players were new players or players with less experience. While it is true that you are less visible while not moving, many experienced players already know what to look for and will most of the time (at least in my case) spot you and kill you. Also, just hovering over someone still brings up the red crosshairs indicating an enemy is there. In some cases it's useful, like yours, but many times you might a counter the opposite. CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 312	Posted - 2016.03.24 12:43:00 - [3] - Quote I can personally confirm the coolness of the Ishukone CF :) With Cardiacs, Myofibrils, and the right suit, I can run double-time for 300m before the cloak and cardiacs run down. And Lightning is also correct in is statement - That ICF is awesome, but an experienced player can, indeed, spot you even when standing still. CEO of G.R.A.V.E
Raven-747 WarRavens Imperium Eden 366	Posted - 2016.03.24 17:01:00 - [4] - Quote I love it when cloaked scouts think they are 100% invisible :3 I often play along with such scouts. This happened once, a scout (cloaked) running at me thought I din't notice but I did. However I decided to play dumb and stood in one place and so did he. He was standing still cloaked and I was pretending to be a dumb blueberry slow walking towards him but looking in some other direction. And then I turned to that invisible scout yelling "SURPRISE MF" Shotgunned him. Sometimes you gotta lure the hunter in with a bait and man this works every time lmao. When you headshot a frontline with proto
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1574	Posted - 2016.03.24 17:22:00 - [5] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: While almost true, I'm going to assume (I may be wrong) that those players were new players or players with less experience. While it is true that you are less visible while not moving, many experienced players already know what to look for and will most of the time (at least in my case) spot you and kill you. Also, just hovering over someone still brings up the red crosshairs indicating an enemy is there. In some cases it's useful, like yours, but many times you might a counter the opposite. I have never been able to have the crosshairs go red when over a cloaked player. Even actually hitting them by guessing doesn't do it. It seems it does appear belatedly which I expected as usual due to the lag delay of things loading. It is the same as players popping up on a passive scan. They just don't register until too close, then it's the same as if you didn't have the extra scan ability anyway. God please let the server lag be less in the new game. I'd like to regularly experience what I have only periodically experienced in DUST; that magic time when I can actually stay on top of opponents because I'm the one with no lag and I get to watch them stand there for a whole second as I unload on them and then they die just as they register being hit. I will get the money to put together that $600 PC if this game is worth it. I hope Valkyrie can succeed too and be able to be played non-VR. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H 4441	Posted - 2016.03.24 19:15:00 - [6] - Quote Hehe, I've had some fun times with cloak from here and there... "A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 313	Posted - 2016.03.24 19:42:00 - [7] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Hehe, I've had some fun times with cloak from here and there... Best fun I had was when I staged a Corp contest to kill the CEO. Ran cloaked in at least 1 of those battles It can be very hard to "find" a single individual when you're focused on just 1, and far more so when that 1 is cloaked CEO of G.R.A.V.E
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4480	Posted - 2016.03.24 19:57:00 - [8] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Hehe, I've had some fun times with cloak from here and there... CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4480	Posted - 2016.03.24 20:01:00 - [9] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: While almost true, I'm going to assume (I may be wrong) that those players were new players or players with less experience. While it is true that you are less visible while not moving, many experienced players already know what to look for and will most of the time (at least in my case) spot you and kill you. Also, just hovering over someone still brings up the red crosshairs indicating an enemy is there. In some cases it's useful, like yours, but many times you might a counter the opposite. I have never been able to have the crosshairs go red when over a cloaked player. Even actually hitting them by guessing doesn't do it. It seems it does appear belatedly which I expected as usual due to the lag delay of things loading. It is the same as players popping up on a passive scan. They just don't register until too close, then it's the same as if you didn't have the extra scan ability anyway. God please let the server lag be less in the new game. I'd like to regularly experience what I have only periodically experienced in DUST; that magic time when I can actually stay on top of opponents because I'm the one with no lag and I get to watch them stand there for a whole second as I unload on them and then they die just as they register being hit. I will get the money to put together that $600 PC if this game is worth it. I hope Valkyrie can succeed too and be able to be played non-VR. Excuse me but... Whuuuuut????? The crosshairs should turn red when you hover over a cloaked enemy. CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 14524	Posted - 2016.03.24 23:05:00 - [10] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: While almost true, I'm going to assume (I may be wrong) that those players were new players or players with less experience. While it is true that you are less visible while not moving, many experienced players already know what to look for and will most of the time (at least in my case) spot you and kill you. Also, just hovering over someone still brings up the red crosshairs indicating an enemy is there. In some cases it's useful, like yours, but many times you might a counter the opposite. I have never been able to have the crosshairs go red when over a cloaked player. Even actually hitting them by guessing doesn't do it. It seems it does appear belatedly which I expected as usual due to the lag delay of things loading. It is the same as players popping up on a passive scan. They just don't register until too close, then it's the same as if you didn't have the extra scan ability anyway. God please let the server lag be less in the new game. I'd like to regularly experience what I have only periodically experienced in DUST; that magic time when I can actually stay on top of opponents because I'm the one with no lag and I get to watch them stand there for a whole second as I unload on them and then they die just as they register being hit. I will get the money to put together that $600 PC if this game is worth it. I hope Valkyrie can succeed too and be able to be played non-VR. Excuse me but... Whuuuuut????? The crosshairs should turn red when you hover over a cloaked enemy. I think it depends on the weapon and the range. I know my knives never seemed to turn red when I knew someone was right there. There again, it could be hit detection or lag causing the issue as well. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Heracles Porsche Eternal Beings 688	Posted - 2016.03.25 00:01:00 - [11] - Quote Actually used this cloak for the first time pretty recently. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 729	Posted - 2016.03.25 00:53:00 - [12] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: While almost true, I'm going to assume (I may be wrong) that those players were new players or players with less experience. While it is true that you are less visible while not moving, many experienced players already know what to look for and will most of the time (at least in my case) spot you and kill you. Also, just hovering over someone still brings up the red crosshairs indicating an enemy is there. In some cases it's useful, like yours, but many times you might a counter the opposite. Reasonable assumption, but I'm almost certain these guys were pros. They moved like they were coordinated, and there were four of them - a squad, by the looks of it. I won't disclose exactly what I did to stay hidden, because I don't want people discovering this trick, and yes, you are correct, just hovering over someone with the crosshairs will discover them. What I was talking about was the fact that the Ishukone Cloak Field allows you to stay stationary for a very long time. As long as you're not detected, this can be very helpful.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 729	Posted - 2016.03.25 00:59:00 - [13] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: While almost true, I'm going to assume (I may be wrong) that those players were new players or players with less experience. While it is true that you are less visible while not moving, many experienced players already know what to look for and will most of the time (at least in my case) spot you and kill you. Also, just hovering over someone still brings up the red crosshairs indicating an enemy is there. In some cases it's useful, like yours, but many times you might a counter the opposite. I have never been able to have the crosshairs go red when over a cloaked player. Even actually hitting them by guessing doesn't do it. It seems it does appear belatedly which I expected as usual due to the lag delay of things loading. It is the same as players popping up on a passive scan. They just don't register until too close, then it's the same as if you didn't have the extra scan ability anyway. God please let the server lag be less in the new game. I'd like to regularly experience what I have only periodically experienced in DUST; that magic time when I can actually stay on top of opponents because I'm the one with no lag and I get to watch them stand there for a whole second as I unload on them and then they die just as they register being hit. I will get the money to put together that $600 PC if this game is worth it. I hope Valkyrie can succeed too and be able to be played non-VR. There is network lag which will never be able to be reduced, simply due to the distances between you and your target and the server. The total of both distances factors into it. The number of times I've died because of lag is uncountable. If you see a target round a corner and see you, they will take you out because they actually rounded that corner a second or two earlier, you just didn't find out about it until now. All that time they will have been shooting at you and unless they're awful shots will kill you before you even know they're there.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 882	Posted - 2016.03.25 15:05:00 - [14] - Quote Lol cloak. Edit. I'll be trying to fit an advanced one on my assault today. Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 1106	Posted - 2016.03.25 18:33:00 - [15] - Quote The cloak still has its uses but players with a keen eye can spot you. The situation i like best is when two cloaked damped scouts run into each other. Its like a draw situation and usually ends in hilarity.
Radiant Pancake3 Y.A.M.A.H 4444	Posted - 2016.03.25 23:35:00 - [16] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Hehe, I've had some fun times with cloak from here and there... Ok I have to say this now. Every time you say hehe, I imagine you being a pirate. I don't know why. Teehee. "A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."


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