DUST Search - And now the hackers come out...

Megaman Trigger wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Echo 1991 wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way.

I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught.

Alright, here's the skinny.

1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs
2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV
3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place
4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will

Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely.

If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them.

People should start an anti-glitch squad dedicated to hunting down these players. That would be fun. Shocked

PS: If i spot someone doing that to their own LAV, I would just toss a flux grenade and watch them go bye bye.

So a Flux will still detonate the REs? Or at least should.

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CLASSIFIED CLASSIFIED 8	Posted - 2016.02.12 16:28:00 - [1] - Quote I was playing a domination match and this guy was invisible, and driving an invincible lav. He'd just drive real slowly and try to run people over every now and then by the objective. I shot a prototype-level forge gun at his car, didn't even do anything to the shields at all. Didn't look like he was using any shield modules either, I didn't see a blue glow around the car. Anyone else seen hackers in matchs lately? His dust name is "steward morales", his corp is "CARTEL LATINO", and his psn username is "stykratos2000". I'd report him but there doesn't seem to be much of a point considering Dust is shutting down. I'd really hope Dust 2.0/Phoenix will have a decent anti-cheat system. Real mercs don't show their clone names.
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 1	Posted - 2016.02.12 16:32:00 - [2] - Quote That glitch can also be used to cause a battle to crash and kick everyone back to quarters. Some corps have been doing in PC to defend districts they'd otherwise lose. Purifier. First Class. Legends never die
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 487	Posted - 2016.02.12 16:33:00 - [3] - Quote CLASSIFIED CLASSIFIED wrote: I was playing a domination match and this guy was invisible, and driving an invincible lav. He'd just drive real slowly and try to run people over every now and then by the objective. I shot a prototype-level forge gun at his car, didn't even do anything to the shields at all. Didn't look like he was using any shield modules either, I didn't see a blue glow around the car. Anyone else seen hackers in matchs lately? His dust name is "steward morales", his corp is "CARTEL LATINO", and his psn username is "stykratos2000". I'd report him but there doesn't seem to be much of a point considering Dust is shutting down. I'd really hope Dust 2.0/Phoenix will have a decent anti-cheat system. Please be careful about how you describe them. Yes they are all from beaner corps. But forumites will be fast to call you racist. Yes this game has turned into the parking lot of Home Depot. But they have rich cultural heritage. Maybe your shots missed. Because peeps are gonna say you can't hack. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 849	Posted - 2016.02.12 16:50:00 - [4] - Quote That's sadly not new. Scrubs use that, mostly to crash the game.
Llamastar Chickenhawk. 180	Posted - 2016.02.12 16:54:00 - [5] - Quote Had a LAV glitcher in a pub last night on a team that was losing badly despite clearly outgearing us, with many jumpy protos to be seen on their side but mostly middle of the road suits on our side. Took several of us to kill one of them, but they had no coordination or tactics, so they just kept not holding installations or objectives. Got them down to about 60% MCC armor. Then we see the ghost LAV start circling Alpha. The framerate started to drop, drop drop.... and then everyone got kicked. Latino squad on the red team. I didn't catch the name of the LAV glitcher, but the safe money is it was someone in that squad. The Latinos don't like losing even in the dying days, even in a pub, and have no problems cheating to ruin someone else's wins. Sad but true story. Hoping against hope that the vast majority of them can't afford gaming PCs... :S
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.02.12 17:11:00 - [6] - Quote How do they even do that lav glitch though. It seems to me its like they left their hitbox somewhere but are immune to damage done to the lav because the hitbox is somewhere else other than the lav itself. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
jade gamester Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 355	Posted - 2016.02.12 17:22:00 - [7] - Quote Why on earth they just don't leave I don't know. I had it done to me the other week, KTM and myself was defendin our point and next minute an lav with no one flies into the point. Then game full on crashes. I don't see what they gain? "I don't want to lose the game but if I crash the game Itll class as a forfeit and I still lose?" Childish kids spitting the dummy if you ask me Will the real vu please stand up o7
CLASSIFIED CLASSIFIED 9	Posted - 2016.02.12 18:20:00 - [8] - Quote I'm not sure why, but there wasn't any noticeable lag that match. No freezing either. He must not know how to do the glitch very well. Llamastar wrote: Hoping against hope that the vast majority of them can't afford gaming PCs... :S That, and also CCP updating the next game often to prevent things like that happening. And ban people that do them. Real mercs don't show their clone names.
Demandred Moores Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 504	Posted - 2016.02.12 18:40:00 - [9] - Quote It's not hacking is a glitch exploited by many especially in pc to make battles crash. Keep up bum bum Ghosts of Dawn Rip beezwax we'll never forget you. ghtda #family
Llamastar Chickenhawk. 180	Posted - 2016.02.12 19:02:00 - [10] - Quote Demandred Moores wrote: It's not hacking is a glitch exploited by many especially in pc to make battles crash. Keep up bum bum "Many?" Many who? Because the consensus in the English forums is that it's many Latinos. Bum bum. ( Anyone know what "bum bum" means?... Hopefully I didn't just call his grandma a turtle or something... )

Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.12 19:03:00 - [11] - Quote Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Echo 1991 warravens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.12 20:11:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls. #PortDust514 'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 490	Posted - 2016.02.12 20:16:00 - [13] - Quote Demandred Moores wrote: It's not hacking is a glitch exploited by many especially in pc to make battles crash. Keep up bum bum Hacking is very gray area. Doesn't Always have to be cyber hacking. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 450	Posted - 2016.02.12 20:52:00 - [14] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Demandred Moores wrote: It's not hacking is a glitch exploited by many especially in pc to make battles crash. Keep up bum bum Hacking is very gray area. Doesn't Always have to be cyber hacking. That isn't how language works. Glitch abuse isn't hacking by definition. Use a dictionary before you try to say words don't mean what they do. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 492	Posted - 2016.02.12 21:51:00 - [15] - Quote General Mosquito wrote: SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Demandred Moores wrote: It's not hacking is a glitch exploited by many especially in pc to make battles crash. Keep up bum bum Hacking is very gray area. Doesn't Always have to be cyber hacking. That isn't how language works. Glitch abuse isn't hacking by definition. Use a dictionary before you try to say words don't mean what they do. Do you know where the word hacking came from? Maybe you should do research before opening you mouth. http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/a-short-history-of-hack I never said glitch abuse is hacking. MIT used the word hacking when they figured out how to stop the train fuses from blowing. They didn't hack any computers. The term isn't specific to computers. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
General Mosquito Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 451	Posted - 2016.02.13 01:19:00 - [16] - Quote SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: General Mosquito wrote: SHERIFF joe arapio wrote: Demandred Moores wrote: It's not hacking is a glitch exploited by many especially in pc to make battles crash. Keep up bum bum Hacking is very gray area. Doesn't Always have to be cyber hacking. That isn't how language works. Glitch abuse isn't hacking by definition. Use a dictionary before you try to say words don't mean what they do. Do you know where the word hacking came from? Maybe you should do research before opening you mouth. http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/a-short-history-of-hack I never said glitch abuse is hacking. MIT used the word hacking when they figured out how to stop the train fuses from blowing. They didn't hack any computers. The term isn't specific to computers. Origin of a term is irrelevant to its current accepted definition. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hack Start there Skippy. Once again, I don't care what you(mistakenly) think it means. Thanks for not checking a dictionary before trying to swing your tiny little wang around. Now please construct a nice diatribe on how words mean what you want, and dictionaries are for heteros. The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 672	Posted - 2016.02.13 01:24:00 - [17] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Judging by the total lack of anyone getting in trouble for doing it, it would seem your assessment is off. Farewell DUST
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.13 02:25:00 - [18] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Alright, here's the skinny. 1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs 2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV 3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place 4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely. If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Demandred Moores Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 507	Posted - 2016.02.13 03:17:00 - [19] - Quote Llamastar wrote: Demandred Moores wrote: It's not hacking is a glitch exploited by many especially in pc to make battles crash. Keep up bum bum "Many?" Many who? Because the consensus in the English forums is that it's many Latinos. Bum bum. ( Anyone know what "bum bum" means?... Hopefully I didn't just call his grandma a turtle or something... ) Some players and corps have more honor. Some are very aware of many glitches yet don't use them in competitive settings. Of course you would point to the latino community. It's rather easy to since they're the vast majority of the player base now days. That wasn't always the case though and the belief that it's only them is wildly inaccurate. I know Americans that are rather established that know far more glitches than most of them. Ghosts of Dawn Rip beezwax we'll never forget you. ghtda #family
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.02.13 03:24:00 - [20] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Alright, here's the skinny. 1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs 2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV 3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place 4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely. If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them. People should start an anti-glitch squad dedicated to hunting down these players. That would be fun. PS: If i spot someone doing that to their own LAV, I would just toss a flux grenade and watch them go bye bye. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy

Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.13 03:28:00 - [21] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Alright, here's the skinny. 1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs 2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV 3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place 4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely. If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them. People should start an anti-glitch squad dedicated to hunting down these players. That would be fun. PS: If i spot someone doing that to their own LAV, I would just toss a flux grenade and watch them go bye bye. That's pretty much the best way to counter this. The RE method isn't a sure thing as far as I know. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
benandjerrys warravens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.13 04:29:00 - [22] - Quote https://media2.giphy.com/media/14o8siNSgciWoo/giphy.gif The butthurt is strong #bringbackjadek
Sned TheDead Y.A.M.A.H 1	Posted - 2016.02.13 13:24:00 - [23] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Alright, here's the skinny. 1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs 2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV 3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place 4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely. If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them. The only questions I have is how will someone know where the hit box is? And what if they do this in the red line in a place where we can't find it? Do the r/es actually remain in the location after getting knocked off, or is it just guess work to find the place? Im getting a tad sick of this, so any information would be appreciated. RAIN! Sned T. Dead I am Undead
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 1	Posted - 2016.02.13 13:42:00 - [24] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Alright, here's the skinny. 1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs 2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV 3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place 4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely. If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them. People should start an anti-glitch squad dedicated to hunting down these players. That would be fun. PS: If i spot someone doing that to their own LAV, I would just toss a flux grenade and watch them go bye bye. So a Flux will still detonate the REs? Or at least should. Purifier. First Class. Legends never die
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.13 13:57:00 - [25] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Alright, here's the skinny. 1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs 2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV 3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place 4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely. If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them. People should start an anti-glitch squad dedicated to hunting down these players. That would be fun. PS: If i spot someone doing that to their own LAV, I would just toss a flux grenade and watch them go bye bye. So a Flux will still detonate the REs? Or at least should. I'm not sure if the REs remain on the invisible LAV hitbox. If they do, then carrying Allotec Flux grenades might give you the range to give that hacker an unpleasant surprise. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3	Posted - 2016.02.13 16:45:00 - [26] - Quote Isn't calling these guys "hackers" a bit too much? take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
sizwe sizzle Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 94	Posted - 2016.02.13 16:57:00 - [27] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Alright, here's the skinny. 1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs 2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV 3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place 4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely. If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them. Watch this videoMany bugs which exist in DUST514: http://youtu.be/SnBTJdwFyJA
SHERIFF joe arapio 0ther.Haven 507	Posted - 2016.02.13 16:59:00 - [28] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Is there a rule against explaining it? I've used it myself to explore the map beyond the redline a few months back. I had no idea you could crash the game by circling objectives with an LAV set up that way. I don't think there's a rule that prevents telling people, doing it however would get you in trouble if caught. Alright, here's the skinny. 1. Set up a Logi suit with all REs 2. Make a stack of REs on the side of the LAV 3. Run the stack into an object on the terrain that causes the REs to look like they get knock loose and then snap back into place 4. Your hitbox is now dislocated and you can roam the map at will Now, the important part of this is that in the testing we did in a match the dislocated hitbox can still be damaged. If you happen to see where the people doing it were at, you can try setting up REs in that location and then detonating them to destroy the LAV remotely. If you see anyone throwing REs on their own LAV in a stack in one location do whatever you can to stop them. And yet ccp is too incompetent to fix this. Just remove lavs. I wonder if you can do it with a tank or derp? "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Llamastar Chickenhawk. 181	Posted - 2016.02.13 17:05:00 - [29] - Quote https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(term) See "Hacker Definition Controversy". You can hack a toaster, a conversation, or your daily habits. You can hack a system, be it a network or a loophole in campaign finance law. You can hack a Pringles can to create a focused microphone amplifier. There are lots of ways both positive and negative to be a hacker. Exploiting a game bug for your own gain can be perfectly reasonably described as a hack without implying that the individual is a criminal.


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