Well I can tell you straight up that Gran Oswaldo has been in three games with me this week and used the LAV exploit. Twice it crashed the entire game out. Naturally I sent in the ticket and video, but I am sure CCP will do nothing as this guy has hours of youtube vids showing him boosting and using exploits. So even if you get them into a game he can easily crash it out by running the LAV through a door. So good luck.

Sounds like Aguila 18 in their 'Quafe' L.A.V. that nobody's driving but kills people instantly the moment someone touches it.

Butthurt about glitches? Arirana Arirana Arirana

Call Forth The Chant Of The Wicked and Versatile

Except Arirana's glitch wasn't game breaking this guy literally broke the game.

Butthurt about glitches? Arirana Arirana Arirana

Call Forth The Chant Of The Wicked and Versatile

Airana's glitch didn't break the game, the fact that the tactic used is a staple of the game right now. 1 OHK melee has always been in this game. He wasn't indestructible while he was whacking people over the head

All glitches should be wiped out no matter what the benefits or implications of using them.

GG CCP

You guys need to learn the difference between a glitch and an exploit

LAV thing is definitely a glitch

Shotgun "glitch", melee "glitch" are both EXPLOITS.

And this is why we never let these trash corps get any districts. And people wonder why we don't like a portion of the Dust community because they are lowlife no gungame scrubs.

Lions are just cats

Lions are FELINES. Cats are FELINES. Deal with it.


Yessus come down from heaven and smack this ignorant mofo back to the dirty project from whence he came.

Oh my, someone took an intro bio course.

Yeah, they're both classified under the same heading of "You shouldn't be able to do that". That much wasn't being argued.

One is supported by in game mechanics, the other is an abuse of it.

For example, the melee glitch. Nothing fancy about it, it was simply animation cancelling. L3+R3. You shouldn't be able to melee that fast, but it didn't do anything unreal to it. TONS of "high level techniques" fall into this category. Reload cancelling, wavedashing, hell ANY type of animation cancelling falls under this. Headglitching is also an exploit, which many complain about as well. It's just abusing the location of the camera and hitbox placement. They aren't "breaking the game", they're just taking advantage of systems in place. Once uncovered, its up to the game devs to decide if they want it or not. A lot of them stay (Such as reload cancelling, being in literally every FPS ever now). As much as some might disagree, I'm fine with a majority of exploits. They're not hard to duplicate and use by even lower tier players and they're not breaking the game. Hell, most of them even get their own in game counters. Like the uplink trick in objectives being countered by carrying fluxes. Nobody even complains about that any more.

However, lets say that instead of L3+R3, he did some weird messing around with depots and weapons and somehow managed to get his gun to "shoot" melee's. Yeah, like he presses R1 and his bullets do melee damage and list in the killfeed as "melee". Now we're in glitch territory. Something here has gone horribly wrong. The LAV glitch is like this. Invisible driver? Unkillable LAV? That's a glitch. It's not supposed to do that and everyone damn well knows it. It's not some odd gimmick, its blatantly taking advantage of a coding issue (or something to that effect) to grant himself benefits that far exceed the normal power of the original.

That is the difference I was pointing out. Nothing else.

A glitch is a glitch Kaiser, small or great. And to use any glitch means that glitch becomes an immediate exploit. Going into detail about which is worse, not only makes you seem like your trying to justify the shady tactics of certain players you affiliate yourself with, furthermore it just looks like one...BIG... Excuse.

A glitch is a glitch Kaiser, small or great. And to use any glitch means that glitch becomes an immediate exploit. Going into detail about which is worse, not only makes you seem like your trying to justify the shady tactics of certain players you affiliate yourself with, furthermore it just looks like one...BIG... Excuse.

My issue is one can be countered the other kills the server saving the abusers districts, no counter as ccp and CPM don't care

Port to PS4

Oh my, someone took an intro bio course.

Yeah, they're both classified under the same heading of "You shouldn't be able to do that". That much wasn't being argued.

One is supported by in game mechanics, the other is an abuse of it.

For example, the melee glitch. Nothing fancy about it, it was simply animation cancelling. L3+R3. You shouldn't be able to melee that fast, but it didn't do anything unreal to it. TONS of "high level techniques" fall into this category. Reload cancelling, wavedashing, hell ANY type of animation cancelling falls under this. Headglitching is also an exploit, which many complain about as well. It's just abusing the location of the camera and hitbox placement. They aren't "breaking the game", they're just taking advantage of systems in place. Once uncovered, its up to the game devs to decide if they want it or not. A lot of them stay (Such as reload cancelling, being in literally every FPS ever now). As much as some might disagree, I'm fine with a majority of exploits. They're not hard to duplicate and use by even lower tier players and they're not breaking the game. Hell, most of them even get their own in game counters. Like the uplink trick in objectives being countered by carrying fluxes. Nobody even complains about that any more.

However, lets say that instead of L3+R3, he did some weird messing around with depots and weapons and somehow managed to get his gun to "shoot" melee's. Yeah, like he presses R1 and his bullets do melee damage and list in the killfeed as "melee". Now we're in glitch territory. Something here has gone horribly wrong. The LAV glitch is like this. Invisible driver? Unkillable LAV? That's a glitch. It's not supposed to do that and everyone damn well knows it. It's not some odd gimmick, its blatantly taking advantage of a coding issue (or something to that effect) to grant himself benefits that far exceed the normal power of the original.

That is the difference I was pointing out. Nothing else.