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Sbundo'D
Dead Meta Game
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Posted - 2016.01.11 18:44:00 -
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More hatemails to the effect of "easy mode PC farmers, quit so we can enjoy the game" And hurtful comments like "you should just quit, no one wants to play with you"
*sigh* Kids can just be so mean
The fact is, I am not going to readjust fittings each battle just to carebear for you, that was beaten out of me a long time ago.. on a good evening I barely play pubs and instead fight PC where I make use of Proto/Officer fittings.
So these are what I use, do you think it was any different for me, back when all I had was MLT fits, and squads of Imps, T-P, TRE, Vacuum, Academy Inferno, What the French, Mafia Clan etc, where in the same place, using proto fits in battles where above 50% did not even own any proto fits.. it sucks.. but that is the Dust that CCP have let settle
The difference between me and SouthSidePhx is, while I sent these guys hatemail I stayed in battle If I had to die 10 times to get a kill on the likes of RegnYum, Dark Cloud, Babar, Ollsam.. It was a win in my book
SouthSide checks the team sheet, sends hatemail and goes off in search of a militia filled battle
I fully agree being stomped is an absolute pain and ruins gameplay
But I have argued against it for 3 years, If CCP are not going to give a damn, why should I ?? Simple mechanic changes and limitations on gear in public battles is all that is needed.. but in the meantime..
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Kierkegaard Soren
Eridani Light Horse Battalion
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Posted - 2016.01.13 16:34:00 -
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I'm sorry, but to ackowledge that the current meta, and in particular pubstomping, is real and destructive (and of course it is) but then claim that it's ok for you to perpetuate it because if you had to suffer, so should the other new newbs? No. BS to that. Having the joy sucked out of a game because you want to get to your kicks in to the playerbase now that you can is an utterly terrible justification. Enjoy the game how you want to, by all means, but don't try and play the "I'm all right, Jack" card and expect us on the receiving end to be all like "oh ok then, seems legit".
You know how crap this game can be when the stomp is real. Stop being a part of that problem and try and be a part of its solution.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
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Sbundo'D
Dead Meta Game
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Posted - 2016.01.13 18:05:00 -
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Current?? It has been this way since the beginning
I see the age old myth that skill was a factor in the early days still exists The older top Corps clearly had no advantage from more SP, ISK and knowledge than other gamers
I have always hated that CCP allow it, but it is what we have.
For me I do not approve of stomps, when someone is boasting 40/50 kills the first thing I look at is their opponents. - And we all know that up to 30 of them would have been easy kills V lower tier suits.
Some battles call for proto gear to support the team and really go for the win, most do not.
The simple fact is, if we have to deal with it, we will use it As long as mercs can be killed by Mk.0/Gk.0 suits, they will use their own
And the player called out in this thread is not a noob, just one that feels he is entitled to only fight them
What solution is there?? Will the Russians quit stomping if I do? will the Asians or the Americans ?? No, they will not.. do not take this as justification for how I play, the point is my mentality does not vary much whether fighting lower/higher skilled players.. I have done the militia/BPO carebear attempt at improving battles....
Then you end on the receiving end of the stomps
Unlike most vets I will burn 10+ proto suits in a 8v15 to keep my team fighting, the tougher fights are what keep me interested, and I fought to take part in them, but more and more it seems Dust is going the way of handing it out for free
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Sbundo'D
Dead Meta Game
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Posted - 2016.01.13 18:13:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:I'm sorry, but to ackowledge that the current meta, and in particular pubstomping, is real and destructive (and of course it is) but then claim that it's ok for you to perpetuate it because if you had to suffer, so should the other new newbs? No. BS to that. Having the joy sucked out of a game because you want to get to your kicks in to the playerbase now that you can is an utterly terrible justification. Enjoy the game how you want to, by all means, but don't try and play the "I'm all right, Jack" card and expect us on the receiving end to be all like "oh ok then, seems legit".
You know how crap this game can be when the stomp is real. Stop being a part of that problem and try and be a part of its solution.
For three years I have tried to help be part of the solution. The players don't care and will farm you for it.
How many supposed unlimited ISK veterans like myself actually post about changing that advantage ??
And acting like I am enjoying my reign lol, the game was much better when I had opponents to fight Now, the vets ragequit at the first sign of defeat, and the noobs are left blindly pushing into a slaughter...
No-one wants this changed more than me, but it is naive to expect it to be a community change in how they play, seeing as for starters the majority of that community are out of the loop with forum communication...
And many more would just seize the opportunity to have easy battles
I'll stick to the point I was trying to make.. If CCP do not care about the dreadful balance of battles for the last 3 years, why should anyone else ??
Believe me, if there was a button I could press to turn off scrub mode, I'd have pressed it a long time ago
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2016.01.19 04:30:00 -
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Anyone should care cause its still a problem. Just because you don't care or ignore a problem doesn't make it go away. Fighting a losing battle, uh, i had something witty for this but nevermind. The people that stomp either get support or chastised (for you good reason IMHO), and the people that want to help get chastised as well or ignored. No winning on either side.
I personally don't think this game should be easy, just metalock & an actual tutorial or something. In PS2 (for sake of example) there is a tutorial type land thing that once you reach a certain level, access to that area is locked and you join everyone else, at least i think that's how its works. It's not entirely easy so its still has a trial by fire type & friendly fire -_- but its a learning curve.
If you're against it, then stop being apart of what you're against. But there isn't too much of an alternative besides stomp or be stomped. But your right, some people live for the one man army stomps & all that stuff. Those types thwt if it ain't easy, it ain't possible. There needs to be alternatives besides stomp, leave battle, QQ, be stomped.
PS, thought this was going to be about hatemail being deleted automatically, well mail in general, and how priceless it is etc etc
Sil4ntChaozz on PS4, PS3, PS Vita
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Lost Apollo
Moose Knuckle Pros Devil's Descendants
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Posted - 2016.01.20 07:51:00 -
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I cannot stand one-sided matches. I don't care what team I am on. Push me to the redline, I'll try to get out but if I can't then I will run around a supply depot until it is over. If my team redlines the other team, I will fall back to the middle of the map to try to give them a chance to recover.
Redline matches are BORING.
Stomps are BORING.
Fighting to the last clone, knowing that you almost have them beat, THAT is a game!
My squad was getting punished in a Domination match. They had our MCC down to 75% armor and had a 30 clone advantage. We pushed, HARD. We took the point and defended the damn thing to the end. We won with 2 clones left. They ran out of clones. That.... is a game.
My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless.
State 'Rasetsu' Assault
Born - April 1, 2013
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:27:00 -
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You can just delete their mails. Pubs is where you can run anything as long as you can afford it.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Soto Gallente
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Posted - 2016.01.20 18:09:00 -
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We don't need metalevel lockout. This is an mmo before it is an fps.
What we need is balance, better NPE, better incentive to win pubs, getting rid of matchmaking entirely, and better accessibility to new gear by newberries.
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Freshbrood Clan Strife
The First Sons
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Posted - 2016.01.21 03:37:00 -
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This game will NEVER be balanced, because CCP's entire MARKETING STRATEGY is flawed.
They exploit the minority of the sore loser gamer population by selling op gear. It's effective, for CCP profit wise, but it ultimately kills Dust in the long run as most players are not willing to pay to cheat, sore losers. So either CCP will milk it for all it's worth until it dies, or get their **** together.
Unfortunately, I'm guessing they'll do the former. I think our best bet is to beg CCP to make it open source- or AT LEAST convince Sony to update a patch that allows us to use our own private servers to host games.
If CCP were smart, and I don't believe they are, they would have figured out long ago that the key to both longevity and game balance is charging for expanded maps, game play modes and skins, NOT op gear.
Is that all you brought? How disappointing. I was hoping for a challenge.
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