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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.08 04:48:00 -
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Ok, so I know there are some that believe that certain modules dont have stacking penalties. As far as I'm aware, all percentage based modules have them, but as I keep hearing it more and more, I'm starting to wonder if what the others are saying is true.
So, could the devs please confirm this please? Also, if stacking penalties for damage mods do exist properly, could you fix the damage modifier display in the fitting screen also?
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
#PortDust514
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2016.01.08 06:53:00 -
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Stacking penalty is broken tbh
A good example is with shield regulators.
Use 2 complex
Then use 2 complex + 1 basic
You'll see the second scenario increases the delay.
Modules like dampener and precision do not have a penalty. They simply don't "stack" the same way.
E.G 1 comp precision + 1 enhanced precision
20% of 40 is 8
15% of 32 is 4.8
27db is the precision you're left with.
Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
Devil's Descendants
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Posted - 2016.01.08 09:03:00 -
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Only Blue Bottles (jump mods) don't have stacking penalty.
There is something weird with regulators but that would be it.
All else modules have proper penalty.
Shamarskii Simon wrote:
Modules like dampener and precision do not have a penalty. They simply don't "stack" the same way.
They do have a penalty like every else module. Dunno how you came up with this.
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
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Posted - 2016.01.08 12:14:00 -
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What archduke has said is, if it doesn't say it has a penalty, it doesn't have one.
To date? Pretty much the only module that doesn't say is the krins mod, which gives 4% more damaged per mod to BOTH (or even 3) equipped weapons.
CEO of Federation Marines 62
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2016.01.08 12:21:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Only Blue Bottles (jump mods) don't have stacking penalty. There is something weird with regulators but that would be it. All else modules have proper penalty. Shamarskii Simon wrote:
Modules like dampener and precision do not have a penalty. They simply don't "stack" the same way.
They do have a penalty like every else module. Dunno how you came up with this.
I was thinking that it was applied each time, and the percentage of a smaller number is smaller. Rather than working with the base value of the suit (40 db precision on calAss at level 5 precision).
Meh, maybe I am wrong xD
Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2016.01.08 13:59:00 -
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Use this suit.
ADV Cal Sent
4 Krins Damage Mods
Whatever low mod
Standard HMG (I use the Quafe)
Breach ScP, Bolt or Flaylock
Whatever nade
That HMG feels pretty good. Maybe its just a mental thing for me. Meh.
Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.08 17:30:00 -
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Thanks for the responses guys, but I would like a Dev just to confirm. It's not that I don't believe you I would just like actual clarification in case it is bugged.
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
#PortDust514
'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.08 17:33:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Stacking penalty is broken tbh
A good example is with shield regulators.
Use 2 complex
Then use 2 complex + 1 basic
You'll see the second scenario increases the delay.
Modules like dampener and precision do not have a penalty. They simply don't "stack" the same way.
E.G 1 comp precision + 1 enhanced precision
20% of 40 is 8
15% of 32 is 4.8
27db is the precision you're left with.
I don't get the whole shield reg thing, it doesn't make sense.
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
#PortDust514
'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2016.01.09 04:33:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:Thanks for the responses guys, but I would like a Dev just to confirm. It's not that I don't believe you I would just like actual clarification in case it is bugged.
This was very well clarified by Archduke.
If it says it has a penalty it has one.
If it does not say it has a penalty then it does not have one.
There is not much more that can be clarified. Seriously, what makes you think you are going to get a dev response when it has already been very well answered and blue tags are about as common around here as winning lottery tickets these days.
Use the search button if you would rather read Archdukes post for your self.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.09 04:51:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Echo 1991 wrote:Thanks for the responses guys, but I would like a Dev just to confirm. It's not that I don't believe you I would just like actual clarification in case it is bugged. This was very well clarified by Archduke. If it says it has a penalty it has one. If it does not say it has a penalty then it does not have one. There is not much more that can be clarified. Seriously, what makes you think you are going to get a dev response when it has already been very well answered and blue tags are about as common around here as winning lottery tickets these days. Use the search button if you would rather read Archdukes post for your self.
Last I checked, a few things that don't say they have stacking penalties have them (go check damps). So no he didn't clarify last time.
Also, I want to know if it's a display bug that's causing damage mod multipliers to add up or if damage mods themselves are bugged.
Cos if damage mods are bugged that's a serious issue cos if stacking 3+ damage mods results in no penalty, light weapons can get 35% extra damage which is a problem.
Change the Ion Pistol Fitting Skill Pls.
#PortDust514
'Echo is a dirty hooker' - UnclS2
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
Devil's Descendants
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Posted - 2016.01.09 05:53:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:
Last I checked, a few things that don't say they have stacking penalties have them (go check damps). So no he didn't clarify last time.
Also, I want to know if it's a display bug that's causing damage mod multipliers to add up or if damage mods themselves are bugged.
Cos if damage mods are bugged that's a serious issue cos if stacking 3+ damage mods results in no penalty, light weapons can get 35% extra damage which is a problem.
Every module that has % bonus has a stacking penalty (with exception of Blue Bottles as we told you)
Here's and explanation why display is bugged :
From website I posted wrote:Although the damage modifiers have the warning, the use of subsequent modules output the full value of the modules and not a reduced one as expected. This has been confirmed by CCP to be a display bug, and that weapon damage modifiers do have the penalty
If you need more confirmation, use your smartphone and check numbers for yourself. It's easy math or use this helpful website to confirm numbers in game. You're welcome.
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