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No-one-ganks like-Gaston Corrosive Synergy RUST415 760	Posted - 2016.01.03 17:52:00 - [1] - Quote So at proto level an Assault, the suit with only one equipment slot and who generally only carries either a nanohive for themselves or an uplink, generally also primarily for themselves but other people sometimes use it, gets 16 mbits/second. Well, okay, sure. I don't think they need that much, since 16 mbits/second is way more than enough to have an uplink or two out from one suit, and then swap out to drop a personal nanohive when the need arises. But then the Scout, the lightweight suit with no HP, whose main role is infiltration/trapping, whose position in combat puts them either a mile away or a meter away, has two equipment slots, and who generally carries around some combination of uplinks, nanohives, and REs, (REs to protect objectives, clear rooms, frighten tanks, uplinks to be placed in hostile areas for the team to quickly infiltrate or near an objective to keep the area fortified, nanohives for personal use), and who is most likely, aside from a logi, to have out the most equipment at a time, only gets 12 mbits/second? These numbers don't make sense to me. Why does the Assault get 16 and why does the Scout only get 12? If you want to keep the Assault with that healthy 16, fine, sure, but Scouts need a buff to their bandwidth in my opinion. My vote is bumping Scouts up to 16, or possibly even just swapping the Assault's and Scout's bandwidth amounts so that it makes more sense. The thought that Dust 514 may one day be the game we dreamed it to be. It fills you with Determination!
Sergeant Sazu Mantodea MC 826	Posted - 2016.01.03 21:39:00 - [2] - Quote The intention was to fix a problem from 1.8 where Scouts made better logibros than Logis. With the Ewar rework among other Scout nerfs since then, I don't think that'll be the case anymore. I'm in favor of more bandwidth for Scouts, no more than 12/16/20. As for Assaults... They're a B+ at everything right now. 16 is enough to have 2 triage nanohives out, or 1-2 ammo hives while maintaining uplinks. I'd say it's debatable whether they have too much bandwidth or not. I'd prefer to nerf them in terms of their absurd combat ability rather than their versatility. [87.1m SP] -The Swagmaster Logi- "Sazu never dies. He just changes form." -Necron Animus
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 18	Posted - 2016.01.04 09:22:00 - [3] - Quote No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Why does the Assault get 16 and why does the Scout only get 12? The reason is that CCP/CPM hate Scouts. The argument behind the action role bleed. Where were the concerns about role bleed when Logi base scan range was set higher than Scouts? Sergeant Sazu wrote: I'd prefer to nerf them [Assaults] in terms of their absurd combat ability rather than their versatility. "No. Assaults are supposed to be disproportionately awesome. Because that's what most of us use." - CPM2 Dropsuit Usage Rates
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 179	Posted - 2016.01.04 11:32:00 - [4] - Quote Dust - Scout Logi (old EWAR stats) EWAR mods + Reptool... "let's put less bandwidth on it to fix that problem"
Sbundo'D Dead Meta Game 179	Posted - 2016.01.04 11:35:00 - [5] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote: Why does the Assault get 16 and why does the Scout only get 12? The real reason is that Scouts are an afterthought to CCP/CPM. The reasoning they offered was that low BW would prevent potential Scout/Logi role bleed. Fair enough, though I'm curious. What happened to the concerns about role bleed when Logi base scan range was set higher than the Scouts? There's a cut-and-dry case of Scout/Logi role bleed; how do you think that one snuck by? Sergeant Sazu wrote: I'd prefer to nerf them [Assaults] in terms of their absurd combat ability rather than their versatility. You're right. Wouldn't hold my breath though. I'm sure the Assaults on CPM2 are quite happy with the state of play. That is an extremely unfair statement... Adipem I ask that you apologize to our tireless CPM.. Clearly none of them play enough to have a bias about anything


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