I understand your points and I understand that we need to do something about this. I'm tired of standing on enemy redlines and you're tired of being trapped in them. But I do need to first clarify that I do give the enemy team every possible chance to reestablish their forces on the field.

I will watch the console get hacked and I will literally wait for the objective to flip before I go retake it.

I don't mindlessly slay the starter fits, I do it like a proper gentleman and use my sidearm

I don't in any way try to stop a vehicle other than a tank from exiting the redline. My only hope when I see an enemy lav or dropship flying out of the redline is that he's got links with him.

I cannot stand fighting on redlines but I cant stand doing nothing even worse. It's either slay people in the redline or do nothing and I can't bring myself to it.

So as a little bit of advice, here is a scrubproof way to get your ass out of the redline and stay out.

You take 1 dropship, you put on a mobile cru and some hardeners and plates and all that good stuff maybe even an afterburner, you get a suit, with uplinks. You call in your dropship at THE VERY BACK OF YOUR REDLINE! I AM TALKING THE ABSOLUTE FARTHEST YOU WOULD EVER BE WILLING TO WALK TO CALL IN A VEHICLE! You get in your dropship and you FLY TO THE VERY TOP OF THE MAP IM TALKING LIKE TIPPIEST TOP OF THE MAP, CANT GO NO HIGHER, then you fly that over towards the enemy redline, find something too high for someone with 3 myo's on to jump onto, you land your ship on it, you throw down your uplinks and you WAIT FOR REINFORCEMENT!!!

Works most of the time.

I understand your points and I understand that we need to do something about this. I'm tired of standing on enemy redlines and you're tired of being trapped in them. But I do need to first clarify that I do give the enemy team every possible chance to reestablish their forces on the field.

I will watch the console get hacked and I will literally wait for the objective to flip before I go retake it.

I don't mindlessly slay the starter fits, I do it like a proper gentleman and use my sidearm

I don't in any way try to stop a vehicle other than a tank from exiting the redline. My only hope when I see an enemy lav or dropship flying out of the redline is that he's got links with him.

I cannot stand fighting on redlines but I cant stand doing nothing even worse. It's either slay people in the redline or do nothing and I can't bring myself to it.

So as a little bit of advice, here is a scrubproof way to get your ass out of the redline and stay out.

You take 1 dropship, you put on a mobile cru and some hardeners and plates and all that good stuff maybe even an afterburner, you get a suit, with uplinks. You call in your dropship at THE VERY BACK OF YOUR REDLINE! I AM TALKING THE ABSOLUTE FARTHEST YOU WOULD EVER BE WILLING TO WALK TO CALL IN A VEHICLE! You get in your dropship and you FLY TO THE VERY TOP OF THE MAP IM TALKING LIKE TIPPIEST TOP OF THE MAP, CANT GO NO HIGHER, then you fly that over towards the enemy redline, find something too high for someone with 3 myo's on to jump onto, you land your ship on it, you throw down your uplinks and you WAIT FOR REINFORCEMENT!!!

Works most of the time.

I remember playing a few games with and against you. You need to earn more isk, spend more isk, get better skills, and/or get better at the game.

Or not. It's whatever, really.

Players follow what is fun for them.

For one it is a battle. Shooting others, nothing more to it.
Some want to win, but they except many things from others. Then they quit.

With their team and budget, I would appreciate a remodeled ambush. Only for medium frames without any equipment (except hives) and grenades. No squads either, quick match to shoot at people.

Can you tell me any player that has fun not being able to run what they want to run in the next match after they busted their ass to pull out the win for their team?

CCP fails to understand peoples greed to incentivize them to win so that matches are actually matches and not a contest of who has less people quit. Our payout system is barely a step above socialism.