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Meee One
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Posted - 2015.12.24 22:27:00 -
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No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:I'm completely fine with no officer in pubs, but the no proto rule will hopefully have some exceptions. Namely, equipment. Gear isn't equal on the same tier. Can you imagine how low rep tool use would be if you couldn't use the proto variant in pubs? The only time you'd ever use non-proto rep tools is if you're trying to skill up to proto. It's hard enough to get a revive at any point in time, but can you imagine how many people would just say '**** it, respawning' because they know there is no chance for them to get the only good revives? Proto and LP variant?
Uplinks wouldn't be bothered as much, though, and lol nanohives. Although people would probably be relieved for the lack of proto scanners, and barely anyone bothers with REs higher than standard unless they just really, really, really want you dead.
I guess the only real problems would come up for the 'people trying to keep you alive' party, because the 'people that want you dead' party don't really take too much of a hit, and in fact get quite the bonus. But if you've ever played an MMO, you know no one cares about the healer's opinion.
What's that? We're being swarmed and we need to focus and be tactical about our maneuvers or we're all going to die? Eh, I'll just run in guns blazing and activate all my abilities at once, the healer's got it. And if I die, he'll deserve the aggro he immediately receives because obviously he sucks.
Why the **** didn't you revive me? I'm the tank! I'm the only important member of the team!
Blah, blah, blah.
CCP has very much ignored my protests about carrying more hives to be logistics exclusive,so i can verify this.
CCP listens to anyone claiming to be assault to the point of brain damage.
Which is really sad when Dust can be so much more.
Meta locks and teir locks were initially thought up by assaults,seeing as damage between teirs of weapons and survival of suits changes minimally.
Every other class however would be kicked in the teeth,especially logistics.
Going from 1 beam to 2 is an astounding improvement (ADV to PRO repair tools).
Being forced to use the 1 beam version wouldn't just hamper supporting ability dramatically,it would cripple earnings too,and for one of the most expensive classes to run (logistics) that's a bad thing.
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Meee One
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Posted - 2015.12.25 01:26:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:Justice Darling wrote:So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü
>force militia
>no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in)
>no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned
>game dies due to lack of interest
Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop.
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Meee One
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Posted - 2015.12.27 00:08:00 -
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Justice Darling wrote:Meee One wrote:TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:Justice Darling wrote:So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. Forced PC fights if you want to us office/proto I know its so hard to deal with them new players and all with out proto or office cuss you suck so bad with out it, but I mean really, really! Point is game is at that point now due to office stompers and proto stompers in pubs, there needs to be a line your not able to cross, I get you cant stay in the training area all the time but, why make new peps go from easy and fun to crap and no fun for them! If you have the skills to us officer and proto go do factional and keep out of the pubs or not us it, I know its not going to happen so forcing ones hand is needed, to up the over all numbers if we don't it will just be us die hard's left to do a circle jerk by our self's! >no limits = poor turn outs or peps just dropping out of match cuss they know your names! >market for dust as its filled by NPC don't matter! >long-term effect of no limits in pubs = circle jerk of die hard's = death of game >game dies any ways even though die hard's don't want it to counter all you want limits are needed, and it was needed from day one of release, as the testers know what to train and what was what or at less i did speaking as a closed test, sorry for the circle bit but it was funny 
>no limits = freedom (simple solution? Remove leader boards,stop being so tryhard no one wants to fight you.)
>on ps3
>isk circulation
>game dies due to seeming lack of interest from CCP to prolong it,thus long term interest teeters off
Listen bro,don't get mad you don't have PRO.
And stop trying to punish vets who've earned their gear.
This "do it for the children" solution is and always will be stupid.
Noobs should be restricted from fighting vets,not the other way around. (Hence PC)
I don't care what nonsensical logic you use.
And you seemed to have tried to dodge my point about equipment.(And failed.)
Let me explain to you what you're actually saying.
You:"You saved up to earn that ferrari?"
Meee:"Yeah,cool huh."
You:"We're going to need to take three of your wheels because those driving stationwagons can't go that fast."
Meee:"But then the others will be able to out pace me." (Regarding equipment.)
You:"Do it for the children!! I-i mean noobs. Yeah the noobs."
Meee:"So,you're saying i can't use what i've earned?"
You:"Exactly!"
Meee:"Then why should i keep earning if i can't use it?"
You:"Uhhh,you suck! For the children!"
*Meee sighs*
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Meee One
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Posted - 2015.12.27 00:31:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Meee One wrote:TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:Justice Darling wrote:So i was looking at the road map and I'm seeing No proto/officer in pubs if we want to build our player base why wasn't this first on the list? Of things to happen! Trust me....Tier lock. Meta lock isn't as clear cut. Think all Advanced suits or all Militia fittings. =ƒÿü >force militia >no ISK flowing into the market (when it's brought in) >no reason to play long-term because you can't use what you've earned >game dies due to lack of interest Seriously guys,these "do it for the children" suggestions need to stop. I support removing Proto/Officer Gear from Pubs but I am all for having it used in FW. FW and PC is where people can use Proto/Officer Gear.
I support porting Dust to PS4 so we can get an influx of newer players.
That would actually solve the problem.
Your suggestion however is just another arbitrary limitation that actually ignores any long-term ramifications because you're so focused on the now of what Dust is as opposed to what it aspires to be.
That and no one answers my question about equipment.
What about equipment? ADV repair tools are less than 1/2 the efficiency of its Pro variation.
For weapons it's 1 or 2 points,for repair tools it's (75+13)=88x2=176 -or- a loss of 101 reps per second.(Triage version.)
How can you justify a loss of 101 reps per second? You can't.
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