-Can't tell if you don't know what a real beta is, or just trolling.
In laman's terms, that means it's still fresh and in dire need of work. We're essentially working as CCP's quality assurance department, without the pay. The game isn't even slated to be released for a while yet. On top of that - most other games that use the beta as a "pre-demo" are using what we programmers call a "pre-release" build, in which the game is already pretty much done. These so-called "betas" are usually everything but a beta in the truest sense of the word, minus the fact that there are "tests" done by players who have access.

Furthermore, we're essentially helping develop the game. This is a dedicated process - true, maybe CCP should have been a little more open about the fact that this is a dedicated beta test and not some half-assed scheme to make pre-order money that gamers take "betas" for anymore, but the point is if you're here you're here to test the game in all of its shortcomings to make sure that it's the best it can possibly be at launch.

-You're either twelve, or don't understand how betas work.
You set a date for a patch or build update. That's the date it comes out. Yeah, it would be nice if it came out quicker, especially when it sounds like everything's ready ahead of time, but usually there are final preparations that need to be made before the release of the next patch, sometimes there's delays in getting the update out onto the servers, etcetera, etcetera. On top of that, extra polish is never frowned upon. I'd also like to build on the last point's point - IT'S A ****ING BETA. Usually, just about everything is broken from the beginning. We find what's broken. We report what's broken. What's broken gets fixed. We have nice things. Then the new stuff comes out, everything breaks again, rinse and repeat until sparkly clean.

A real beta tester is usually sitting with a pen[cil] and paper or some type of notepad or what-have-you, and will usually have a long, extensive list of things to fix for the next update. What you're asking for sounds an awful lot like "I want this unfinished game now, because I'm an impatient person who wants this game done fast, not right".

-It's not a demo. It's not a pre-release. It's a beta.

-Read the rest of the forum before you go making another repost about incredibly common problems.
Ten seconds of looking, tops. Seriously. On top of that, half of the complaints you listed have already been addressed and are being released in the next patch.

All that aside, and assuming you can in fact read, I'm going to save time explaining how at least half of your complaints are already addressed for the following build by posting this link:

E3 Update Patch

I'd also like to point out that real grenades don't have indicators, and when they kill someone it's always because of some manner of surprise. Maybe a thud of the thing landing next to you could tip you off, but in general grenades are relatively stealthy until they go off. Sure, I'd like to hear my ally say he's throwing a grenade, but that's inconsequential (at least until friendly fire is turned on, which I legitimately think it should be already). And if you actually learn to use your eyes when you play, it's pretty easy to dodge them. You'll probably still get killed by a few, but if you pay attention it will be far less. These are the things to be expected in war.

1) have no problem with the timer, it gives me an opportunity to tweak loadouts, buy from the market, etc, and I usually select a different loadout every two or three respawns, just to be adaptable.

2) I have no problem with the heavies, the fact is, there not overpowered if your playing as a team. Two good assaults v one heavy = dead heavy. Though a cap on the number of heavies might be a better solution, I don't recommend it the game is fine in that regard, and if you want to dance with a healthy heavy, I think one deserves to die. It's a learning experience.

3) I'd sort of agree with this, though I think the rate of fire needs to be toned down, the recoil toned up, and a less effective range made, though I wouldn't have much experience with this particular weapon, so my opinion shouldn't be highly considered in this regard.

4) seriously, there's a reason it's called a tank, I just think there should be a cost increase in this regard for a high spec marauder, though the standard tank is just fine.

5) no opinion here.

6) the aiming could use some improvement as could the lag, and this has Been brought up before so I'll leave it there.

7) The only place where I'd agree with this is in Ambush, but as for skirmish, the point of play here is to push people back, so I'd disagree here, and really, skirmish is (so far) the important map. The spawns here are fine. If you get pushed back that far, you would lose anyway, and you have options still. Get a logi to deploy an uplink somewhere that can be defended,mor something of the like, the points to be adaptable.

8) been brought up, and I agree.

9) agree here too, completely.

10) I personally have had no run ins in this regard over the time I've played, but they should give some grenade notification I suppose.

-Can't tell if you don't know what a real beta is, or just trolling.
In laman's terms, that means it's still fresh and in dire need of work. We're essentially working as CCP's quality assurance department, without the pay. The game isn't even slated to be released for a while yet. On top of that - most other games that use the beta as a "pre-demo" are using what we programmers call a "pre-release" build, in which the game is already pretty much done. These so-called "betas" are usually everything but a beta in the truest sense of the word, minus the fact that there are "tests" done by players who have access.

Furthermore, we're essentially helping develop the game. This is a dedicated process - true, maybe CCP should have been a little more open about the fact that this is a dedicated beta test and not some half-assed scheme to make pre-order money that gamers take "betas" for anymore, but the point is if you're here you're here to test the game in all of its shortcomings to make sure that it's the best it can possibly be at launch.

-You're either twelve, or don't understand how betas work.
You set a date for a patch or build update. That's the date it comes out. Yeah, it would be nice if it came out quicker, especially when it sounds like everything's ready ahead of time, but usually there are final preparations that need to be made before the release of the next patch, sometimes there's delays in getting the update out onto the servers, etcetera, etcetera. On top of that, extra polish is never frowned upon. I'd also like to build on the last point's point - IT'S A ****ING BETA. Usually, just about everything is broken from the beginning. We find what's broken. We report what's broken. What's broken gets fixed. We have nice things. Then the new stuff comes out, everything breaks again, rinse and repeat until sparkly clean.

A real beta tester is usually sitting with a pen[cil] and paper or some type of notepad or what-have-you, and will usually have a long, extensive list of things to fix for the next update. What you're asking for sounds an awful lot like "I want this unfinished game now, because I'm an impatient person who wants this game done fast, not right".

-It's not a demo. It's not a pre-release. It's a beta.

-Read the rest of the forum before you go making another repost about incredibly common problems.
Ten seconds of looking, tops. Seriously. On top of that, half of the complaints you listed have already been addressed and are being released in the next patch.

All that aside, and assuming you can in fact read, I'm going to save time explaining how at least half of your complaints are already addressed for the following build by posting this link:

E3 Update Patch

I'd also like to point out that real grenades don't have indicators, and when they kill someone it's always because of some manner of surprise. Maybe a thud of the thing landing next to you could tip you off, but in general grenades are relatively stealthy until they go off. Sure, I'd like to hear my ally say he's throwing a grenade, but that's inconsequential (at least until friendly fire is turned on, which I legitimately think it should be already). And if you actually learn to use your eyes when you play, it's pretty easy to dodge them. You'll probably still get killed by a few, but if you pay attention it will be far less. These are the things to be expected in war.

This. I had to turn my voice chat volume all the way down because of someone insisting on complaining about CCP's release. The fact is that this is not a beta designed to drive sales - this is a beta to actually shake down issues.

double post

1) I don't think we understand each other so let me explain it another way - What I'm saying on number 1) is NOT that you DON'T get to change loadouts, what I am saying is the timer should automatically start and then when it's finished you can chose to spawn or continue fiddling with load outs, like Battlefield 3 or Resistance 3.

I had to post twice in a row since there is only so much space to type in each message. Do you understand now?