DUST Search - Pilot Suits, unofficial proposal?

maybe deadcatz wrote:

Shamarskii Simon wrote:

I'll reply in bold...

maybe deadcatz wrote:

Question. How would these bonuses apply themselves?
Is it when you click to call for a vehicle and it comes delivered with the stat bonuses? Because getting into a tank and suddenly have the armour suddenly increase is weird.

No, it's not like that... Ideally yeah that would be nice... But a few problems come up, like someone with a pilot suit calls in a vehicle for a non-pilot user. Non pilot gets the pilot's benefits w/o the suit.

Sure having the eHP suddenly jump up will feel weird but... It's the trade off for "active" skill application.

And what about changing pilot suits at a depot while you have a tank out already?

Definitely possible! Once you hop out, you strip the vehicle of the pilot suit's bonuses... Just like if you hop out of a turret, you strip the turret of your turret skills.

Just some issues I want to address.

And what of the slot layout for these suits
i was thinking scout-esque... But if that has any issues then it's open for discourse!

The number of slots? above
layout for each race? above
Will you give the ability to only equip vlms(those vehicle modules) or can they also equip standard dropsuit modules like a biotic or armour plate?
Any module you'd like. It is a dropsuit after all! The only difference (similar to cloak on scout) is a role bonus towards VLM fitting.

And what about their weapons? Should pilot suits only be allowed to equip a sidearm? Or one light weapon? Would they be allowed to have a grenade? And how about equipment slots? Do they get only one? Or none at all?

that's a tough one. Some would say sidearm only, others would say sure light weapon.

Grenade.......... I want to say no. But it depends on the majority :D

Yes equipment! Just 1 though...

Edit:just thought bumping this was better than that turret qq thread. Thanks! Imma go check out the qq right now lol. Free to ask any questions/Critique whenever you'd like

On the sidearm or light weapon debate. I'm all for pilot suits only having one weapon. If they get a sidearm then let them have a equipment slot.
If the plan is for them to have only a light weapon then take away the equipment slot and let them have a grenade.

As long as they have two ways of dealing damage then it'll be fine(ish)
Sidearm paired with equipment slot(can use remotes or nanohives to replenish ammo for sidearm)
Light weapon paired with grenade(you can have a plasma cannon/swarm and av grenades but won't be able to replenish them on the field)

^stops people from running full av loadouts^

Have you decided on their base values as well? Suit hp,ehp,speed,ewar?

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Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 608	Posted - 2016.01.13 20:18:00 - [31] - Quote Suit HP.... I've thought about a just between logi and scout of that race.. Higher eHP, weaker eWar stats. Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 2	Posted - 2016.01.20 16:25:00 - [32] - Quote Put this potato up to the top. Op is on to something,don't let it die. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 678	Posted - 2016.01.24 17:32:00 - [33] - Quote Shameless self bump to the top of the board :D Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
Git Gud Bruh Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 124	Posted - 2016.01.27 05:14:00 - [34] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: I'll reply in bold... maybe deadcatz wrote: Question. How would these bonuses apply themselves? Is it when you click to call for a vehicle and it comes delivered with the stat bonuses? Because getting into a tank and suddenly have the armour suddenly increase is weird. No, it's not like that... Ideally yeah that would be nice... But a few problems come up, like someone with a pilot suit calls in a vehicle for a non-pilot user. Non pilot gets the pilot's benefits w/o the suit. Sure having the eHP suddenly jump up will feel weird but... It's the trade off for "active" skill application. And what about changing pilot suits at a depot while you have a tank out already? Definitely possible! Once you hop out, you strip the vehicle of the pilot suit's bonuses... Just like if you hop out of a turret, you strip the turret of your turret skills. Just some issues I want to address. And what of the slot layout for these suits i was thinking scout-esque... But if that has any issues then it's open for discourse! The number of slots? above layout for each race? above Will you give the ability to only equip vlms(those vehicle modules) or can they also equip standard dropsuit modules like a biotic or armour plate? Any module you'd like. It is a dropsuit after all! The only difference (similar to cloak on scout) is a role bonus towards VLM fitting. And what about their weapons? Should pilot suits only be allowed to equip a sidearm? Or one light weapon? Would they be allowed to have a grenade? And how about equipment slots? Do they get only one? Or none at all? that's a tough one. Some would say sidearm only, others would say sure light weapon. Grenade.......... I want to say no. But it depends on the majority :D Yes equipment! Just 1 though... Edit:just thought bumping this was better than that turret qq thread. Thanks! Imma go check out the qq right now lol. Free to ask any questions/Critique whenever you'd like On the sidearm or light weapon debate. I'm all for pilot suits only having one weapon. If they get a sidearm then let them have a equipment slot. If the plan is for them to have only a light weapon then take away the equipment slot and let them have a grenade. As long as they have two ways of dealing damage then it'll be fine(ish) Sidearm paired with equipment slot(can use remotes or nanohives to replenish ammo for sidearm) Light weapon paired with grenade(you can have a plasma cannon/swarm and av grenades but won't be able to replenish them on the field) ^stops people from running full av loadouts^ Have you decided on their base values as well? Suit hp,ehp,speed,ewar? Honestly I think giving them Grenades is a ridiculous idea. A pilot suit should be for Piloting, not hopping out of your sica with a Kubo's and Lai Dai's. "Zergshipping" "What's that?" "Dunno...sounds cool though...."
Git Gud Bruh Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 124	Posted - 2016.01.27 05:24:00 - [35] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: Suit HP.... I've thought about a just between logi and scout of that race.. Higher eHP, weaker eWar stats. Actually! Sidearm + equipment makes a lot of sense. You're main weapon is the vehicle... Equipment because you can support your team (them amarr logi's dropping links all over) if you're fully fit for vehicles you'll barely have eHP to be vehicle-less. Therefore! Light + Equip. Or sidearm + 2 equip. I'd support 1 sidearm 1 equipment, anything else would be excessive, You'd be amazed at how many kills some of us could get with just a Breach Scrambler Pistol and a set of RE's. The Pilot suit should be survivable enough for you to get back to safety and call in another vehicle, not survivable enough to be useful as infantry. "Zergshipping" "What's that?" "Dunno...sounds cool though...."
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 702	Posted - 2016.01.27 06:43:00 - [36] - Quote Git Gud Bruh wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: Suit HP.... I've thought about a just between logi and scout of that race.. Higher eHP, weaker eWar stats. Actually! Sidearm + equipment makes a lot of sense. You're main weapon is the vehicle... Equipment because you can support your team (them amarr logi's dropping links all over) if you're fully fit for vehicles you'll barely have eHP to be vehicle-less. Therefore! Light + Equip. Or sidearm + 2 equip. I'd support 1 sidearm 1 equipment, anything else would be excessive, You'd be amazed at how many kills some of us could get with just a Breach Scrambler Pistol and a set of RE's. The Pilot suit should be survivable enough for you to get back to safety and call in another vehicle, not survivable enough to be useful as infantry. Good point! The suit should not be useful as an infantry suit (in other words, terrible for infantry work) but primarily as a vehicle suit. I'll update the OP in the morning Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
tritan abbattere Canadian Kings BlackNova Mercenary Alliance 108	Posted - 2016.01.27 09:35:00 - [37] - Quote I want this to be a thing to make vehicles more interesting.DO it NOW CCP!! I am the all mighty Tritan. Fear me for I am a MassHole
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3	Posted - 2016.01.28 02:42:00 - [38] - Quote Old fogies bump. 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
Xlpizza The Hundred Acre Hood 9	Posted - 2016.01.31 07:25:00 - [39] - Quote Bump (I know you're looking at this Archduke, we know you're the coolest. Now talk to Rattati and make this a thing.) Proto-stomp? More like Militia Stomp!
Maxor haxor Horizons' Edge 6	Posted - 2016.02.01 07:17:00 - [40] - Quote Just so you know, you have the full support of a certain dead cat. And his merry band of alter egos. "The cat rests in his box,forever dead yet not,doomed to sleep,yet pleasantly it shall dream,of a world outside the box"

Git Gud Bruh 0.P. 199	Posted - 2016.02.01 07:19:00 - [41] - Quote Bump for bumps sake. Whether you're going down with the ship or swimming for shore now, o7 faggots, I'm gonna miss you like a PLC would.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 851	Posted - 2016.03.11 14:21:00 - [42] - Quote Bump. If we can't have it, dust 2.0 can! Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!


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