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Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
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Posted - 2015.12.10 23:59:00 -
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We need a clearer way to talk to eve players in game.
Other than finding complete Random eve players in your Merc's local chat, we have no other way of contacting them. Fw battles are always a struggle but we have the opportunity to get eve support in the form of obital bombardments but sadly this is just not the case.
Now I'm not sure how eve works exactly but I'm sure eve pilots have to sign upto a faction to actual play it, now if you where to sign up to a specific fraction you would be given a chat channel for the fw, which you could see both Steve and dust players.
Wot u guys think?
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Worthless Target
Extra Padding
88
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Posted - 2015.12.11 00:29:00 -
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I have no idea who this Steve guy is, and I'm not sure why he would care about us.
Embrace the stomp
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
1
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Posted - 2015.12.11 00:32:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:We need a clearer way to talk to eve players in game.
Other than finding complete Random eve players in your Merc's local chat, we have no other way of contacting them. Fw battles are always a struggle but we have the opportunity to get eve support in the form of obital bombardments but sadly this is just not the case.
Now I'm not sure how eve works exactly but I'm sure eve pilots have to sign upto a faction to actual play it, now if you where to sign up to a specific fraction you would be given a chat channel for the fw, which you could see both Steve and dust players.
Wot u guys think?
I like it. +1 |
Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.11 01:03:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:you would be given a chat channel for the fw
Has the playerbase become too lazy to type the FW channels in themselves? Or does EVE not want to play with y'all anymore?
If things still function the way they did, I'd suggest getting a corp mate on a PC in EVE to call out battle locations. Typing in a battles address in Tranquility was a pain in the @ss using a controller. |
Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2015.12.11 01:23:00 -
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Only so much I can do for you being as how I don't play anymore, but here is a nudge in the right direction-
Thread created 11/4/15
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3019419#post3019419 |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
RUST415
659
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Posted - 2015.12.11 01:45:00 -
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The power core and port ideas are more appealing..... but that's none of my business. |
Daemonn Adima
CASSETTE 514
652
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Posted - 2015.12.11 04:11:00 -
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Go make a thread in the EVE forums with your FW channel or corp channels. Offer isk to pilots for support. |
Dead Cavino
Lunatic.High
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Posted - 2015.12.11 06:31:00 -
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A year or 2 ago I would drop orbitals for the minmatar fw teams, and i remember many times, the battle would end up being located 15-20 minutes away from my current location. Meaning I would possibly get 1 OB off before the match ended, if any at all. This is assuming no one attacks you during your endeavors.
Also it requires a certain type of ammo you have to carry around. Which does no damage to ships, making you vulnerable.
I remember the pay for dropping each OB being relatively decent,but I can also remember any number of things I could do that payed better with less effort/time.
After a few tries, I ended up only attempting to drop OB's if the battles were within a certain range of my current location.
Unless drastic changes to this feature have been made since then(which I doubt, although I don't know), dropping an OB from an EVE pilots perspective may end up being more work than it's worth. Unless the battle is conveniently placed near your pilot's current location.
EVE pilots also have far more resources to find these kinds of things out. ( Meaning if an EVE pilot is interested in dropping OB's, then they will find a chat channel or person to contact far easier than we can.)
Daemonn Adima wrote:Go make a thread in the EVE forums with your FW channel or corp channels. Offer isk to pilots for support.
Going on the EVE forums would likely be your best bet, unless you know someone personally who plays EVE that is in FW.
I'm almost positive EVE and DUST characters can NOT transfer isk between each other. At least I know for a fact EVE -> DUST is impossible.
I don't like two-legged things.
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Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
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Posted - 2015.12.11 08:53:00 -
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You guys are aware that you cannot post on the eve forums right? Not without an eve account (so I've been told)
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Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
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Posted - 2015.12.11 08:54:00 -
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Crease Release wrote:Genral69 death wrote:you would be given a chat channel for the fw Has the playerbase become too lazy to type the FW channels in themselves? Or does EVE not want to play with y'all anymore? If things still function the way they did, I'd suggest getting a corp mate on a PC in EVE to call out battle locations. Typing in a battles address in Tranquility was a pain in the @ss using a controller.
Anyone can male a channel but how do u expect to get eve players in there except for your local channel
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Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
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Posted - 2015.12.11 08:55:00 -
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:The power core and port ideas are more appealing..... but that's none of my business.
I still find that to be a terrible idea but what's that got to do with anything 
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Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2015.12.11 16:20:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Anyone can male a channel but how do u expect to get eve players in there except for your local channel
So instead of trying to obtain support, your plan is to say f*ck it, not even try to obtain support and demand CCP forces EVE pilots to play with you?
Have you even attempted to look into the channels listed in the threads I posted? Or is clicking on the link too much trouble?
Jesus.
On a side note, what's up Dead Cavino. This is Dunk Mujunk from R1P. Trolling the forums with my old farm alts and losing the last little bit of faith I had left in humanity.
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Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
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Posted - 2015.12.11 23:56:00 -
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Crease Release wrote:Genral69 death wrote:Anyone can male a channel but how do u expect to get eve players in there except for your local channel So instead of trying to obtain support, your plan is to say f*ck it, not even try to obtain support and demand CCP forces EVE pilots to play with you? Have you even attempted to look into the channels listed in the threads I posted? Or is clicking on the link too much trouble? Jesus. On a side note, what's up Dead Cavino. This is Dunk Mujunk from R1P. Trolling the forums with my old farm alts and losing the last little bit of faith I had left in humanity.
I've been trying to get eve support them past 3 months -_-
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Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2015.12.12 00:52:00 -
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Then I would suggest 1 of 3 things.
#1- Find a Corp with an EVE alliance, and join them.
#2- Obtain your own EVE alliance
#3- Send you, a Corp mate, or even an interested friend into EVE to play and become your OB support.
From what Cavino has said, my diagnosis of EVE not wanting to play with y'all anymore stands. Apparently the risk isn't worth the reward, and if pilots aren't actively trying to provide OB support anymore, putting them in a chat with Dust mercs won't change anything (more than likely they would simply close that chat). I'm not sure what faction you are looking for, but the first thread I posted was made last month. If those few channels are now dead--- **points at #1, #2, #3** --- those are your options. |
jordy mack
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
992
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Posted - 2015.12.12 03:05:00 -
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i dont think crease really knows what he is talking about.
anyway, yes please... maybe let mercs/merc corps join the same militia corps that eve pilots have to join to do FW?
Less QQ more PewPew
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Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2015.12.12 04:33:00 -
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Probably not.
However, I don't imagine the OB difficulties stem from the inability of mercs and pilots to get into the same channel. This suggests an overwhelming majority of players in both EVE and Dust have forgotten what was a very well known process (I had at least 2 channels for each faction when I played).
If indeed there are pilots wanting to provide Orbital support, and there are mercs in need of orbital support, a breakdown of what was once fairly solid communication (fw channels used to be packed) is the culprit, as opposed to CCP not imposing an official fw channel on all players.
And if indeed there are pilots wanting to provide Orbital support, the most timely manner to obtain said support would be to do so independent of CCP, using both EVE and Dust forums. Would that take some work? If there really is such a drastic breakdown in cross game communication, of course. However we are talking about 2 games that require a significant investment of time and energy, and if coordination of this type is simply to much work to be bothered with, why worry about OB support to begin with?
On the other hand, if the issue is a general lack of pilots interested in providing support (which sounds like it is currently the case at this moment), all the forced fw channels in the world will not encourage EVE pilots to return to support detail. I will acknowledge that at the very least, a forced channel may from time to time corral some support from a pilot as long as it is extremely convenient (it is close, they are set up for OB, is the area safe, are they even interested, so on as stated by Cavino). Even still, from the way it sounds the gains from providing support are simply not worth it. This would mean the best and most time efficient way to obtain support would be to send a merc up into EVE to (slowly) become that support, or to get in touch with what is apparently the last few entities in EVE which actively seek to provide support, and again the best way to do this would be to send a merc up to EVE.
To boil it down-
Either both games have suffered a massive Big O-esq memory loss, and the player bases simply need to come together on the forums or in game, just as it was done before, and restore communication lines
Or
With everything else going on in EVE, with the poor risk/reward ratio for support pilots, and with the connection to EVE being on the down swing since FF14 (with no signs of it rising back to, and beyond, it's peak), there are simply a very small amount of pilots interested in providing support.
To boil it down even more-
Either the playerbase has become too lazy to obtain orbital support.
Or
EVE doesn't want to play with y'all anymore.
Which means either-
Action from CCP is not needed
Or
Action from CCP will not change the situation.
I feel my points are vaild, though I'm sure many disagree. |
Dead Cavino
Lunatic.High
150
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Posted - 2015.12.12 15:19:00 -
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Do DUST mercs even get the militia chat if their corp is in FW? I believe this requires an EVE CEO though...
I don't like two-legged things.
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