DUST Search - Request to up WP's given for a clone reanimation unit

CELESTA AUNGM wrote:

Cool topic for debate. I think CCP sneaked in one of the cardinal examples of their regularly bold and "screw the traditional path--let's do a Mark-1 fresh POV on this topic" attitude. Kudos to them.

If my observations are correct, destroying a Gun Installation or Supply Depot awards you 100 wp, while burning up a CRU only gives you 50 wp (YES, less than a regular installation). I've seen it a few times, so I THINK I'm reporting this correctly---CCP is very deliberately NOT encouraging CRUs to be destroyed.

It's a very interesting stand on the topic. Does it make more sense in combat to:

Destroy the enemy's observation post, or fuel depot, or Launch Pad, or CRU to permanently kill their ownership of the field.

OR

Take over their Launch Pad, observation post, and hack their CRUs, and use them or OUR side, KNOWING that the enemy will only try to snatch it back from us if we give them a chance.

I won't say which is the strategy I believe in. But CCP seems to believe the CRU should not be blown up if you can avoid it. That's why they put the heaviest armour on it, and make you use up the most of your valuable time chopping it down,.... for the amount of reward you could easily get just shooting at 2 enemy mercs your friends are shooting at (= 2x 25 wp).

....ugh. Do you really want to shoot at that CRU? Do you need to?

It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!

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Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 85	Posted - 2015.12.09 17:19:00 - [1] - Quote Request to up WP's given for a clone reanimation unit or lower the amount of armor, I'm thinking with the amount of armor on them and how many shoots it takes to kill one, should be some where around 200 WP! It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Raven Tarmiskis Planetary Response Organisation FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 17	Posted - 2015.12.09 17:58:00 - [2] - Quote I agree that popping a CRU needs to be upped because it's harder to kill, 200 is a touch too much I think. Especially where it cannot move, or fire back I would say bump it to 100 instead. Maybe 125? Remember this is supposed to be a valuable asset, not an easy few hundred points for an OB.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 754	Posted - 2015.12.09 18:20:00 - [3] - Quote Cool topic for debate. I think CCP sneaked in one of the cardinal examples of their regularly bold and "screw the traditional path--let's do a Mark-1 fresh POV on this topic" attitude. Kudos to them. If my observations are correct, destroying a Gun Installation or Supply Depot awards you 100 wp, while burning up a CRU only gives you 50 wp (YES, less than a regular installation). I've seen it a few times, so I THINK I'm reporting this correctly---CCP is very deliberately NOT encouraging CRUs to be destroyed. It's a very interesting stand on the topic. Does it make more sense in combat to: Destroy the enemy's observation post, or fuel depot, or Launch Pad, or CRU to permanently kill their ownership of the field. OR Take over their Launch Pad, observation post, and hack their CRUs, and use them or OUR side, KNOWING that the enemy will only try to snatch it back from us if we give them a chance. I won't say which is the strategy I believe in. But CCP seems to believe the CRU should not be blown up if you can avoid it. That's why they put the heaviest armour on it, and make you use up the most of your valuable time chopping it down,.... for the amount of reward you could easily get just shooting at 2 enemy mercs your friends are shooting at (= 2x 25 wp). ....ugh. Do you really want to shoot at that CRU? Do you need to? Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 85	Posted - 2015.12.09 19:13:00 - [4] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Cool topic for debate. I think CCP sneaked in one of the cardinal examples of their regularly bold and "screw the traditional path--let's do a Mark-1 fresh POV on this topic" attitude. Kudos to them. If my observations are correct, destroying a Gun Installation or Supply Depot awards you 100 wp, while burning up a CRU only gives you 50 wp (YES, less than a regular installation). I've seen it a few times, so I THINK I'm reporting this correctly---CCP is very deliberately NOT encouraging CRUs to be destroyed. It's a very interesting stand on the topic. Does it make more sense in combat to: Destroy the enemy's observation post, or fuel depot, or Launch Pad, or CRU to permanently kill their ownership of the field. OR Take over their Launch Pad, observation post, and hack their CRUs, and use them or OUR side, KNOWING that the enemy will only try to snatch it back from us if we give them a chance. I won't say which is the strategy I believe in. But CCP seems to believe the CRU should not be blown up if you can avoid it. That's why they put the heaviest armour on it, and make you use up the most of your valuable time chopping it down,.... for the amount of reward you could easily get just shooting at 2 enemy mercs your friends are shooting at (= 2x 25 wp). ....ugh. Do you really want to shoot at that CRU? Do you need to? Well they do have daily missions to kill them supplydepo/turret/CRU so I would say they do want you to kill or why would make a mission for it, also to add on to this, if they didn't want you to kill it then they are able to make it so you cant hurt the armor, so asking for them to up the WP isn't asking to much. It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
Raven Tarmiskis Planetary Response Organisation FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 17	Posted - 2015.12.09 21:03:00 - [5] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Cool topic for debate. I think CCP sneaked in one of the cardinal examples of their regularly bold and "screw the traditional path--let's do a Mark-1 fresh POV on this topic" attitude. Kudos to them. If my observations are correct, destroying a Gun Installation or Supply Depot awards you 100 wp, while burning up a CRU only gives you 50 wp (YES, less than a regular installation). I've seen it a few times, so I THINK I'm reporting this correctly---CCP is very deliberately NOT encouraging CRUs to be destroyed. It's a very interesting stand on the topic. Does it make more sense in combat to: Destroy the enemy's observation post, or fuel depot, or Launch Pad, or CRU to permanently kill their ownership of the field. OR Take over their Launch Pad, observation post, and hack their CRUs, and use them or OUR side, KNOWING that the enemy will only try to snatch it back from us if we give them a chance. I won't say which is the strategy I believe in. But CCP seems to believe the CRU should not be blown up if you can avoid it. That's why they put the heaviest armour on it, and make you use up the most of your valuable time chopping it down,.... for the amount of reward you could easily get just shooting at 2 enemy mercs your friends are shooting at (= 2x 25 wp). ....ugh. Do you really want to shoot at that CRU? Do you need to? You've got the nail on the head there, but I do admit that because you get those crazy few that'll fire on a CRU that they should get rewarded as it is from time to time more tactical to pop it then to leave it standing
korrah silain True Illuminate 193	Posted - 2015.12.09 21:18:00 - [6] - Quote Destroying any installation (except perhaps guns) should be 25 wp if capturing them is 50, because capturing both denys the enemy the tactical advantage given, and gives your team the advantage. Suntzu says that a captured cart of grain is worth three of your own. you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 85	Posted - 2015.12.09 21:25:00 - [7] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Destroying any installation (except perhaps guns) should be 25 wp if capturing them is 50, because capturing both denys the enemy the tactical advantage given, and gives your team the advantage. Suntzu says that a captured cart of grain is worth three of your own. Your team should be putting uplinks down so the CRU's are more of a burden then anything I kill them every chance i get and pop out my proto uplinks on my apex suit for the win. some of the time lol It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
korrah silain True Illuminate 193	Posted - 2015.12.09 21:26:00 - [8] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: korrah silain wrote: Destroying any installation (except perhaps guns) should be 25 wp if capturing them is 50, because capturing both denys the enemy the tactical advantage given, and gives your team the advantage. Suntzu says that a captured cart of grain is worth three of your own. Your team should be putting uplinks down so the CRU's are more of a burden then anything I kill them every chance i get and pop out my proto uplinks on my apex suit for the win. some of the time lol Yeah well blueberries SHOULD do alot of things. They don't tho you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 86	Posted - 2015.12.09 21:29:00 - [9] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Justice Darling wrote: korrah silain wrote: Destroying any installation (except perhaps guns) should be 25 wp if capturing them is 50, because capturing both denys the enemy the tactical advantage given, and gives your team the advantage. Suntzu says that a captured cart of grain is worth three of your own. Your team should be putting uplinks down so the CRU's are more of a burden then anything I kill them every chance i get and pop out my proto uplinks on my apex suit for the win. some of the time lol Yeah well blueberries SHOULD do alot of things. They don't tho True but that really dont change the fact that something this hard to kill gives you so low of WP to stay on topic. It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
korrah silain True Illuminate 194	Posted - 2015.12.09 21:43:00 - [10] - Quote Justice Darling wrote: korrah silain wrote: Justice Darling wrote: korrah silain wrote: Destroying any installation (except perhaps guns) should be 25 wp if capturing them is 50, because capturing both denys the enemy the tactical advantage given, and gives your team the advantage. Suntzu says that a captured cart of grain is worth three of your own. Your team should be putting uplinks down so the CRU's are more of a burden then anything I kill them every chance i get and pop out my proto uplinks on my apex suit for the win. some of the time lol Yeah well blueberries SHOULD do alot of things. They don't tho True but that really dont change the fact that something this hard to kill gives you so low of WP to stay on topic. Right I am on topic-refuting your counter arguments. The entire logic of "its hard to kill we should get more wps" misses the fact that this is a tactical shooter and encourages the destruction of a tactical installation. The only logical time to blow one up is when it is used as a primary means of enemy reinforcement and you cannot take it, but even then its hardly a challenge to destroy, just takes resources. I see no reason they should be upgraded other than "I want to farm wps by shooting things that don't shoot back" you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.

Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 86	Posted - 2015.12.09 21:55:00 - [11] - Quote korrah silain wrote: Justice Darling wrote: korrah silain wrote: Justice Darling wrote: korrah silain wrote: Destroying any installation (except perhaps guns) should be 25 wp if capturing them is 50, because capturing both denys the enemy the tactical advantage given, and gives your team the advantage. Suntzu says that a captured cart of grain is worth three of your own. Your team should be putting uplinks down so the CRU's are more of a burden then anything I kill them every chance i get and pop out my proto uplinks on my apex suit for the win. some of the time lol Yeah well blueberries SHOULD do alot of things. They don't tho True but that really dont change the fact that something this hard to kill gives you so low of WP to stay on topic. Right I am on topic-refuting your counter arguments. The entire logic of "its hard to kill we should get more wps" misses the fact that this is a tactical shooter and encourages the destruction of a tactical installation. The only logical time to blow one up is when it is used as a primary means of enemy reinforcement and you cannot take it, but even then its hardly a challenge to destroy, just takes resources. I see no reason they should be upgraded other than "I want to farm wps by shooting things that don't shoot back" OK good for you then don't kill, its not going to stop me from killing it, just would like it to reflect the work put into killing it, and if you call a little more WP's for killing a CRU "farming" you should try some of the tank i've gotten over 600 WP on some of the proto tanks and have shoot them less so sorry if i don't see where your coming from on the farming WP's but its not really valid. It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!
jordy mack WarRavens Imperium Eden 984	Posted - 2015.12.09 22:24:00 - [12] - Quote so many more helpfull things u could be doing than shooting a cru Less QQ more PewPew
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge 86	Posted - 2015.12.09 22:33:00 - [13] - Quote jordy mack wrote: so many more helpfull things u could be doing than shooting a cru well its not like it matters much anyways most of the matches i play in half the team leaves anyways, so cutting off the reds easy way in after dropping a flex and killing them off and clearing them out for a little bit. So why yes i could be losing isk left and right trying to push so they can come right back like nothing cuss there scout came right behind me and I let them get another 50 more WP they can us agents my team or i can just deny them the WP's and lowering the over all WP's from the match by killing it. It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana , and codeine and god dammed it, you little mother!


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