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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 10:00:00 -
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So far I have seen only people who spam forums with how much they hate Myofibs . So this is a thread where the haters and users will lay out their thoughts PEACEFULLY for once !
Let us ask the Myofib users what inspired them to do so As of me it was BAD GUNGAME and PROTO STOMPING
And I found out that using Myofibs was perfect counter for evey type of stopmin gameplay
E.g. : Redlined ? - Myofibs + uplinks Tanks Stomping ? - Myofibs + PLC + AV nades
Sooo many combinations to counter ikky situations ....
And I have been around since when REs were said to be OP and cheesy while currently they still hold the same potential .... It's just that the interest died out , and so will this eventually
Other cheesy strategies people used to use like LAV and heavy w/ HMG drive-bys which got boring eventually
All these happened to die cuz something new came which was more interesting
I will start legit gungame-gameplay when CCP makes sure that I can empty a clip of an MLT rifle and hope to see a proto assault die or have critical hp and not regen. fast enough to make me feel like I was using a NERF gun
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Ablerober
Haircuts that kill
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Posted - 2015.12.07 10:20:00 -
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I've never used them as I feel there is enough variety without the need to jump around.
This is a tactical shooter, which is why I play.
If you compare Destiny with Dust, the level design, combat and some exotic armour warrants the need to be able to jump. The myfofibs were a late addition and don't enhance the experience at all (for me personally).
I played a Dom match last night and whilst most of my team left early on, I still stayed and had a good fight and was so happy as there was no one in the other team using the md/myo combination which would have otherwise made my find another match.
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 10:26:00 -
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I agree with the tactical shooter part but the disparity between the tiers is to much to have balanced gameplay
+ nobody complained when one could fit 5 , why?
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Anunnakii
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Posted - 2015.12.07 10:32:00 -
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Olivia MartyR wrote:I agree with the tactical shooter part but the disparity between the tiers is to much to have balanced gameplay
+ nobody complained when one could fit 5 , why? As in fitting 5 myofibs? Everyone complained that people were jumping to high thus the reason why were limited to 3 now. And they are a melee mod, not a jump mod -_-
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Grobda
Carbon 7
9
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Posted - 2015.12.07 10:44:00 -
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Myos need a bigger penalty to stop jump spam. I dont mind their use tactically for wall jumps or to get places or to escape vertically from a fight.
BUT
They're too easy to spam jump IE bounce around constantly.
I'd make them work so each one drained the stamina pool by a set amount. Use 3 you'll get a really high jump but it will empty your stamina. You can still use cardiacs to counter this, but you will need to spend more time on the ground to regen, and thus plan your moves rather than just keep hitting jump and spamming your MD/Flaylock.
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Ablerober
Haircuts that kill
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Posted - 2015.12.07 11:02:00 -
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Grobda wrote:Myos need a bigger penalty to stop jump spam. I dont mind their use tactically for wall jumps or to get places or to escape vertically from a fight.
BUT
They're too easy to spam jump IE bounce around constantly.
I'd make them work so each one drained the stamina pool by a set amount. Use 3 you'll get a really high jump but it will empty your stamina. You can still use cardiacs to counter this, but you will need to spend more time on the ground to regen, and thus plan your moves rather than just keep hitting jump and spamming your MD/Flaylock.
If all dropsuits could jump the same height without the need for myfibs, this would make sense.
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Mad Syringe
Carbon 7
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Posted - 2015.12.07 12:09:00 -
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I'm a MD user since day one, and have used myos shortly when they where introduced. Didn't like it so went back to 1 myo max (to get over stuff faster - parcour style).
But recently I put back myos (2) on my minmandos for two reasons:
First, you need to be able to jump on certain objects (rooftops) if you get put there for PC AV/overwatch purposes. Second, the myos are the only option to evade the recent rise of the speedtanked shotty invasion in PC (scouts and assaults wiht Bon's). This has helped my survivability in shotty situations a lot.
However, I don't like the jumpy MD crowd as much as the next guy. So there should be a higher drain of stamina if you stack those things. What if you loose 50% extra per jump for every myo fitted after the first one?
So if you fit two, you lose 150% of stamina per jump instead of 100% with one or none fitted. If you fit 3, you loose 200% of the stamina of an non myo jump.
This wuld reduce the amount of jumps, or they would have to fit cardiacs, which would decrease their hp, since they could not fit as many plates.
This way myos could still be used strategically (which is a very good thing!) but not as much for spamming Explosives (MD/PLC/FL). It would still be possible, but toned down a bit. |
Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.12.07 12:21:00 -
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It's because they can counter pretty much everything that it's annoying.
1m isk tank specialized to take out tank? My I can destroy 1m to kill infantry? Myos can destroy Specialized for long range combat? Jump, throw some nades and Fire plasma cannon and enemy down. Specials to kill up close? Jump and you just escaped damage
Of all things in dust, that fact that myos can do so much is annoying and to a point, not even fair. Everything else (or almost) requires specific fitting to do well. Slap myos and PC and you can do everything.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.12.07 12:38:00 -
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I was using them before jump, I keep using them. The only problematic combo IMO is with MD, flaylock, I think I've got killed by a jumpy PLC only a couple of times. I've much more problems with nade spammers than jumpy fits except MD jump of course.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Raven-747
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
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Posted - 2015.12.07 13:16:00 -
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I'm not skilled into MDs or PLCs nor FP. Tbh I use myros when my team is just bs and can't push at all, or these few bunch of heavies camping with logis or a bunch of reds camping in a enclosed room (I prefer the suicide RE run though). So this is my reason for using myros with MD because of being the only blue in the city. I use it with Std MD a quafe (MD skill at 2) and man its so easy to get kills lol. Can't imagine how easy this would be on a full proto level.
When you headshot a frontline with proto
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jordy mack
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.07 13:21:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:It's because they can counter pretty much everything that it's annoying.
1m isk tank specialized to take out tank? My I can destroy 1m to kill infantry? Myos can destroy Specialized for long range combat? Jump, throw some nades and Fire plasma cannon and enemy down. Specials to kill up close? Jump and you just escaped damage
Of all things in dust, that fact that myos can do so much is annoying and to a point, not even fair. Everything else (or almost) requires specific fitting to do well. Slap myos and PC and you can do everything.
yer the OP says it right at the start he uses them to counter proto stompers. thats the problem right there, they counter most play styles too well, and there is too few that counter them.
it's a tough one, they do add more strategy, but i think you guys are on the right track with the stamina depletion. make us pause between jumps a bit.
i think its mainly the damage avoidance that annoys most ppl.
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JEDI LORD HOTH
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Posted - 2015.12.07 13:40:00 -
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Pretty soon CCP will add another attribute to the yo yo's mod.
Trample! Hit-Detection is $hit anyways so....... I'll just run over them like a war elephant.
Punching bullies in their pearly white Chiclets since 1984.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.12.07 14:02:00 -
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Olivia MartyR wrote: I will start legit gungame-gameplay when CCP makes sure that I can empty a clip of an MLT rifle and hope to see a proto assault die or have critical hp and not regen. fast enough to make me feel like I was using a NERF gun
Mlt weapons aren't that bad. You have bad aim or something? Its still same damage as a standard weapon. You just have be wiser with your limited ammo,and very tactical about when to reload.
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jordy mack
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.07 14:23:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Olivia MartyR wrote: I will start legit gungame-gameplay when CCP makes sure that I can empty a clip of an MLT rifle and hope to see a proto assault die or have critical hp and not regen. fast enough to make me feel like I was using a NERF gun
Mlt weapons aren't that bad. You have bad aim or something? Its still same damage as a standard weapon. You just have be wiser with your limited ammo,and very tactical about when to reload.
thats just it, mlt weapons AREN'T that bad. if u empty a full clip into someones face u expect to atleast drop their shields right?
Less QQ more PewPew
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 15:07:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Olivia MartyR wrote: I will start legit gungame-gameplay when CCP makes sure that I can empty a clip of an MLT rifle and hope to see a proto assault die or have critical hp and not regen. fast enough to make me feel like I was using a NERF gun
Mlt weapons aren't that bad. You have bad aim or something? Its still same damage as a standard weapon. You just have be wiser with your limited ammo,and very tactical about when to reload.
Armour tanking and recent Cald. Assault super regen is to much for a Mlt tier to handle .... I prefer to one shot with weapons like bolt pistol , scrambler rifle , plc , ion pistol so aim factor can be the case but the newbies ? They aren't good shots anyways
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 15:45:00 -
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Raven-747 wrote:I'm not skilled into MDs or PLCs nor FP. Tbh I use myros when my team is just bs and can't push at all, or these few bunch of heavies camping with logis or a bunch of reds camping in a enclosed room (I prefer the suicide RE run though). So this is my reason for using myros with MD because of being the only blue in the city. I use it with Std MD a quafe (MD skill at 2) and man its so easy to get kills lol. Can't imagine how easy this would be on a full proto level.
Same for me ..... its more of a comeback fit
I have no interest in melee damage since mine is a minmata medium frame w/ uplinks , av nades and plc
A point many people miss is that many people take it as an insult to die from MLT gear while in PRO gear (typical ragers) While the newbie celebrates its accomplishment the proto user returns to spam him I.e. STOMPING thinking MLT gear beating him means he needs BETTER SUIT AND WEAPONS
People should understand that thier gameplay might have been a bit faulty causing thier loss instead of making it a personal pride scar
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
463
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Posted - 2015.12.07 15:56:00 -
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Olivia MartyR wrote:I will start legit gungame-gameplay when CCP makes sure that I can empty a clip of an MLT rifle and hope to see a proto assault die or have critical hp and not regen. fast enough to make me feel like I was using a NERF gun You can't really complain about fast regen...that's just people fitting their suits in a smart way.
For example, someone who can use a caldari fit will fit it so that they have high shield AND high shield regen. As for Gallente, we get a bonus to armor repair....so for me personally I use Reactive Plates and Armor Rep mods.....
Jumpy splash damagers are just scrubby and further crutch themselves instead of working toward making their gungame better. If I can improve my gungame, anyone can.
I held a .35 K/D for almost two years. I quit the game for a couple months and then came back. Now after a lot of hard work my K/D is almost a 1.0
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 16:56:00 -
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I totally agree with you and have no complaints about your points for gunplay and smart fitting
But I have a question .... What if MY smart way of fitting relies on myofibrils and MY gungame includes a PLC ?
Jumper fits have to sacrifice all regen. and tanking and survive on slightly more ehp than base and totally base regen. working as a total reciprocal of a sentinal.
I use many styles of gameplay but many get repetitive while myofibrils add a whole new array of ideas
You all call us mad monkeys jumping with no real skills or idea of what gunplay is and that we are reliant on pot-shots .... but how many of y'all can honestly dare 1v1 a tank or run towards an ADS and spam it with sleek AV nades to scare it away ? And play recon. for the team ?
Using Myofibrils needs skill aswell .... everything in this game does . Askme how for any individual piece of equipment or weapon and I'll tell you how
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Grease Spillett
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.12.07 17:02:00 -
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I just leave match when a squad of myo md and plc show up. The ability to move like that without a squad to back you up is pointless. It's like fighting Mario as a goomba.
Somebody call for an exterminator?
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
466
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Posted - 2015.12.07 17:04:00 -
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Olivia MartyR wrote:I totally agree with you and have no complaints about your points for gunplay and smart fitting
But I have a question .... What if MY smart way of fitting relies on myofibrils and MY gungame includes a PLC ?
Jumper fits have to sacrifice all regen. and tanking and survive on slightly more ehp than base and totally base regen. working as a total reciprocal of a sentinal.
I use many styles of gameplay but many get repetitive while myofibrils add a whole new array of ideas
You all call us mad monkeys jumping with no real skills or idea of what gunplay is and that we are reliant on pot-shots .... but how many of y'all can honestly dare 1v1 a tank or run towards an ADS and spam it with sleek AV nades to scare it away ? And play recon. for the team ?
Using Myofibrils needs skill aswell .... everything in this game does . Askme how for any individual piece of equipment or weapon and I'll tell you how
It's not good play, what it is is a crutching tactic that has no real skill. Literally anyone can do it and it's easy mode. I can 1v1 a tank, and in many cases I will go 1v1 a tank. Same with ADS.
The only skill required with Myofibs is the skill to falcon punch people in the face without getting killed first. Also, you don't lose all regen with the myfoib fit. I can toss three myofibs on my Galass or Gal Logi and still fit my suit with armor and repar.
Try again.
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 17:24:00 -
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1v1 tank as a regular infantry unit not with your own tank .... And not any AV fit to changge for at supply depo when ADS arrives .... I don't even care of the melee for the most part .... I prefer to use them to get over ledges faster and get a good overview of where to head next
And it's good if you can improve your jumper fit but I implied to the more minmatar using people who are more speed oriented
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
468
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:14:00 -
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Olivia MartyR wrote:1v1 tank as a regular infantry unit not with your own tank .... And not any AV fit to changge for at supply depo when ADS arrives .... I don't even care of the melee for the most part .... I prefer to use them to get over ledges faster and get a good overview of where to head next
And it's good if you can improve your jumper fit but I implied to the more minmatar using people who are more speed oriented
Infact, I had an infantry fit to use against tanks. I have a tank, but alas I am a ****** tanker as it's more of a place for me to dump SP that I have.
Also, you can easily kill an ads with a Plasma Cannon if you are a good shot.
You need to brush up on your knowledge of the game to properly kill vehicles or other suits.
I am a hard pusher when it comes to ground patrol. The fact that it's taken me so long to get from a .35 to a .99 K/D will prove that. I'm reckless and I'm sure a lot of people will confirm that. I can get a ton of kills, but I die a lot doing it.
Also, Minmatar can in fact tank regen while using myos.....they are after all; the dual tanking class.
Here's a little known fact, you can actually kill a python with a rail rifle.
Myos were originally intended for melee damage. Hence why using them to be super mario mary poppins aholes is not a good use of the mod.
D4GG3R is my mom.
I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:24:00 -
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We all have our own methods .... jumping is one i like
But I am pretty much like you , all out hard pusher and am pretty good shot w/ PLC as well
A random guess but have you crossed 50 mil. SP ? cuz you sound like you have ..... I am almost 10 mil. now but make sure anyways that I try my best to keep team progressive
Men , The Polite Ones Atleast , Would Call Me A Monster
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
469
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:28:00 -
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Olivia MartyR wrote:We all have our own methods .... jumping is one i like
But I am pretty much like you , all out hard pusher and am pretty good shot w/ PLC as well
A random guess but have you crossed 50 mil. SP ? cuz you sound like you have ..... I am almost 10 mil. now but make sure anyways that I try my best to keep team progressive 113 mil SP.
D4GG3R is my mom.
I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:34:00 -
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....... WHY EVEN CARE !!?
I have been around since beta but my ch. is only 4 months old ..... you make me regret my decisions
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
469
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:36:00 -
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Olivia MartyR wrote: ....... WHY EVEN CARE !!? I have been around since beta but my ch. is only 4 months old ..... you make me regret my decisions Because jumpy tactless aholes are aholes. Nothing more.
D4GG3R is my mom.
I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:39:00 -
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Tactless on what bases exactly ?
And why so offensive ? Or just bully ?
Men , The Polite Ones Atleast , Would Call Me A Monster
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
469
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:47:00 -
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Olivia MartyR wrote:Tactless on what bases exactly ?
And why so offensive ? Or just bully ?
Because......
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Jumpy splash damagers are just scrubby and further crutch themselves instead of working toward making their gungame better.
D4GG3R is my mom.
I have reason to suspect Archduke is a Sassy Pirate.
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Jammeh McJam
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:53:00 -
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Myofibs are the reason PC is controlled by hispanic corps. It's all they ever use and it's incredibly annoying.
Steam name - Jammeh McJam
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Olivia MartyR
WarRavens Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2015.12.07 18:56:00 -
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Hispanic ? That is a bit annoying I can understand but Hispanic ? Like why would you mention them that way ?
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