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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.12.03 12:13:00 -
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Can some, someone who has experianced or done the destroying, can someone please just tell me how my pro maddy at full health (4500 arnor) was 2 suited by a adv Gunny with pro rail???????
There was no AV so all damage was from the tank. I get I wasn't hardened and he prolly used lots of damage mods.... BUT HOW???? 2 shots and I lost 1.2m isk. Doesn't seem fair to me.
On the bright side, it is showing how effective long range tanking is. I can see more balance between armor and shield tanking itself.
Still tho, 2 shots is not acceptable. I get 3 (1 for shield and 2 for armor) but not 1 for shield and 1 for armor.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
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Posted - 2015.12.03 12:15:00 -
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Hihihihihi serves you right for using proto XD.
Join the standard army, brother! 
What... 1.3, when?
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Jackkkkkkkkkkkkkkky jack
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Posted - 2015.12.03 12:19:00 -
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rip ...
just found cal assault op^^
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.12.03 12:27:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Hihihihihi serves you right for using proto XD. Join the standard army, brother!
I do run basic. I've run all basic since about 2 weeks ago cuz I went broke. I recently smile pro armor kids and wanted to try em out. Jeez. Cut a guy some slack. But that's not the point.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2015.12.03 12:31:00 -
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Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot.
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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.12.03 12:36:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot.
But what is the weak spot???
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Posted - 2015.12.03 12:38:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot???
Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV
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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.12.03 12:39:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot??? Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV
I was shot from the front tho. On the left side.
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Posted - 2015.12.03 13:10:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot??? Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV I was shot from the front tho. On the left side.
My guess something else hit you too. You just didn't realise it.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2015.12.03 13:11:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot??? Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV I was shot from the front tho. On the left side.
Proto Rail and 5 complex damage mods.
First shot: 1696 + 69.33% (5 stacked mods) - 10% (vs Shield) = 2584.65312
Second shot: 1696 + 69.33% (5 stacked mods) + 10% (vs Armour) = 3159.02048
Total damage: 5743.6736
Can a Gunnie even fit 5 damage mods and a Rail if it sacrifices everything else?
EDIT: Checked with Protofits. ADV Gunnie, Proto Rail, 5 Damage mods in the highs and a CPU boost in the low slot.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2015.12.03 13:12:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Can some, someone who has experianced or done the destroying, can someone please just tell me how my pro maddy at full health (4500 armor and full shield) was 2 shotted by an adv Gunny with pro rail???????
There was no AV so all damage was from the tank. I get I wasn't hardened and he prolly used lots of damage mods.... BUT HOW???? 2 shots and I lost 1.2m isk. Doesn't seem fair to me.
On the bright side, it is showing how effective long range tanking is. I can see more balance between armor and shield tanking itself.
Still tho, 2 shots is not acceptable. I get 3 (1 for shield and 2 for armor) but not 1 for shield and 1 for armor.
I am biased.
I really don't give a BLANK about your tank talk. Tanks have been a blight on this game for years now. As far as I am concerned anyone that is in one is nothing more than a FOTM scrub to the Nth degree.
I do not even care if you are not trying to pull out god mode like most tankers, if you are in a tank you are one of them.
BTW glass cannons gonna glass cannon.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
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Posted - 2015.12.03 13:25:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot??? Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV I was shot from the front tho. On the left side. Proto Rail and 5 complex damage mods. First shot: 1696 + 69.33% (5 stacked mods) - 10% (vs Shield) = 2584.65312 Second shot: 1696 + 69.33% (5 stacked mods) + 10% (vs Armour) = 3159.02048 Total damage: 5743.6736 Can a Gunnie even fit 5 damage mods and a Rail if it sacrifices everything else?
proto gunny can fit far more than 5 proto dmg mods and a particle cannon. It might have to use a cpu extender though to fill up the rest of the slots with proto.(meaning turrets) For reference- my maxed out in everything gunny (including all turret optimization s) fits 3 complex heavy shield extenders 2 complex heavy shield hardeners, 2 small neutron blasters, particle cannon and the complex pg&cpu upgrades for lows.
All things considered its the bulkiest possible fit in the game, good vs av, but outright loses to 1v1s with rail maddys that have hardeners,a damage mod and a heat sink(heat sink means 6 shots before overheat, with 1 dmg mod they kill turret installations with those 6 shots as well.)
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2015.12.03 13:37:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:proto gunny can fit far more than 5 proto dmg mods and a particle cannon. It might have to use a cpu extender though to fill up the rest of the slots with proto.(meaning turrets) For reference- my maxed out in everything gunny (including all turret optimization s) fits 3 complex heavy shield extenders 2 complex heavy shield hardeners, 2 small neutron blasters, particle cannon and the complex pg&cpu upgrades for lows.
All things considered its the bulkiest possible fit in the game, good vs av, but outright loses to 1v1s with rail maddys that have hardeners,a damage mod and a heat sink(heat sink means 6 shots before overheat, with 1 dmg mod they kill turret installations with those 6 shots as well.)
Lightning said it was an ADV Gunnie with a Proto Rail that 2 shot him. 1 complex CPU mod lets it fit 5 complex damage mods and a Proto Rail.
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Union118
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Posted - 2015.12.03 14:06:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Can some, someone who has experianced or done the destroying, can someone please just tell me how my pro maddy at full health (4500 armor and full shield) was 2 shotted by an adv Gunny with pro rail???????
There was no AV so all damage was from the tank. I get I wasn't hardened and he prolly used lots of damage mods.... BUT HOW???? 2 shots and I lost 1.2m isk. Doesn't seem fair to me.
On the bright side, it is showing how effective long range tanking is. I can see more balance between armor and shield tanking itself.
Still tho, 2 shots is not acceptable. I get 3 (1 for shield and 2 for armor) but not 1 for shield and 1 for armor.
Militia is OP son.
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Reign Omega
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Posted - 2015.12.03 19:08:00 -
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Madrugar weak spot is the sides/ treads if Im not mistaken? they dont have a power core in the back.
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sizwe sizzle
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.12.03 19:11:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Can some, someone who has experianced or done the destroying, can someone please just tell me how my pro maddy at full health (4500 armor and full shield) was 2 shotted by an adv Gunny with pro rail???????
There was no AV so all damage was from the tank. I get I wasn't hardened and he prolly used lots of damage mods.... BUT HOW???? 2 shots and I lost 1.2m isk. Doesn't seem fair to me.
On the bright side, it is showing how effective long range tanking is. I can see more balance between armor and shield tanking itself.
Still tho, 2 shots is not acceptable. I get 3 (1 for shield and 2 for armor) but not 1 for shield and 1 for armor.
This used to happen to me often that why I stopped using tanks
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Operative 1174 Uuali
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Posted - 2015.12.03 19:38:00 -
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Yeah, the large rail has been way to OP for some time. Good at CQ, good on the redline. You might have the kind of lag that I do where the first shot of anything doesn't register either visually, audibly or dmg calculation. What you think is the first shot is actually the second. I see others suffer from this too. Like when you shoot a player and they react after you are half way into them.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2015.12.03 20:09:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Madrugar weak spot is the sides/ treads if Im not mistaken? they dont have a power core in the back.
Madrugers have their weakspot at the back, same as Gunnlogi does.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.12.03 20:23:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot??? Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV I was shot from the front tho. On the left side. Proto Rail and 5 complex damage mods. First shot: 1696 + 69.33% (5 stacked mods) - 10% (vs Shield) = 2584.65312 Second shot: 1696 + 69.33% (5 stacked mods) + 10% (vs Armour) = 3159.02048 Total damage: 5743.6736 Can a Gunnie even fit 5 damage mods and a Rail if it sacrifices everything else? EDIT: Checked with Protofits. ADV Gunnie, Proto Rail, 5 Damage mods in the highs and a CPU boost in the low slot.
Jee....zus......christ..... WTF. well, I know know how to fit my tank destroyer. Lol. Still tho, that's op.
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2015.12.03 20:28:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Jee....zus......christ..... WTF. well, I know know how to fit my tank destroyer. Lol. Still tho, that's op.
It's OP or bust these days.
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Reign Omega
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Posted - 2015.12.03 20:41:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Madrugar weak spot is the sides/ treads if Im not mistaken? they dont have a power core in the back. Madrugers have their weakspot at the back, same as Gunnlogi does.
Madrugar*
Thanks for the clarification.
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Summa Militum
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Posted - 2015.12.03 23:57:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Can some, someone who has experianced or done the destroying, can someone please just tell me how my pro maddy at full health (4500 armor and full shield) was 2 shotted by an adv Gunny with pro rail???????
There was no AV so all damage was from the tank. I get I wasn't hardened and he prolly used lots of damage mods.... BUT HOW???? 2 shots and I lost 1.2m isk. Doesn't seem fair to me.
On the bright side, it is showing how effective long range tanking is. I can see more balance between armor and shield tanking itself.
Still tho, 2 shots is not acceptable. I get 3 (1 for shield and 2 for armor) but not 1 for shield and 1 for armor. I am biased. I really don't give a BLANK about your tank talk. Tanks have been a blight on this game for years now. As far as I am concerned anyone that is in one is nothing more than a FOTM scrub to the Nth degree. I do not even care if you are not trying to pull out god mode like most tankers, if you are in a tank you are one of them. BTW glass cannons gonna glass cannon.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:20:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Can some, someone who has experianced or done the destroying, can someone please just tell me how my pro maddy at full health (4500 armor and full shield) was 2 shotted by an adv Gunny with pro rail???????
There was no AV so all damage was from the tank. I get I wasn't hardened and he prolly used lots of damage mods.... BUT HOW???? 2 shots and I lost 1.2m isk. Doesn't seem fair to me.
On the bright side, it is showing how effective long range tanking is. I can see more balance between armor and shield tanking itself.
Still tho, 2 shots is not acceptable. I get 3 (1 for shield and 2 for armor) but not 1 for shield and 1 for armor.
Not exactly sure in which order the modifiers are applied but....
1700*1.2 = 2040 + give or take another 340sih damage for a second modifier.
2380*1.1 = 2618
If that dude had any gunners or went for more damage mods I'm not surprised you got dunked in two shots. That being said two tank rounds normally isn't such an issue to blap another tank..... except in Dust our cannon are essentially automatic.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:21:00 -
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What megaman said.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Can some, someone who has experianced or done the destroying, can someone please just tell me how my pro maddy at full health (4500 armor and full shield) was 2 shotted by an adv Gunny with pro rail???????
There was no AV so all damage was from the tank. I get I wasn't hardened and he prolly used lots of damage mods.... BUT HOW???? 2 shots and I lost 1.2m isk. Doesn't seem fair to me.
On the bright side, it is showing how effective long range tanking is. I can see more balance between armor and shield tanking itself.
Still tho, 2 shots is not acceptable. I get 3 (1 for shield and 2 for armor) but not 1 for shield and 1 for armor. Not exactly sure in which order the modifiers are applied but.... 1700*1.2 = 2040 + give or take another 340sih damage for a second modifier. 2380*1.1 = 2618 If that dude had any gunners or went for more damage mods I'm not surprised you got dunked in two shots. That being said two tank rounds normally isn't such an issue to blap another tank..... except in Dust our cannon are essentially automatic.
No side gunners or AV out in the field wen I died. I had finished killing them.
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Posted - 2015.12.04 00:38:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot??? Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV I was shot from the front tho. On the left side.
yeah ccp gave havs weak spots all the way around lol
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Megaman Trigger
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Posted - 2015.12.04 01:09:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot??? Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV I was shot from the front tho. On the left side. yeah ccp gave havs weak spots all the way around lol\ cause u know gotta stay on the tank nerf brigade or cod players will cry themselves off the game
More likely is was a Gunnlogi with 5 damage mods.
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Posted - 2015.12.04 02:16:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Can some, someone who has experianced or done the destroying, can someone please just tell me how my pro maddy at full health (4500 armor and full shield) was 2 shotted by an adv Gunny with pro rail???????
There was no AV so all damage was from the tank. I get I wasn't hardened and he prolly used lots of damage mods.... BUT HOW???? 2 shots and I lost 1.2m isk. Doesn't seem fair to me.
On the bright side, it is showing how effective long range tanking is. I can see more balance between armor and shield tanking itself.
Still tho, 2 shots is not acceptable. I get 3 (1 for shield and 2 for armor) but not 1 for shield and 1 for armor.
Probably 2 Complex damage mods in the tail end. It sucks. =ƒÿæ |
Death Shadow117
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Posted - 2015.12.04 12:59:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Only way I can think you got taken out in 2 shots was if you were hit in the weakspot. But what is the weak spot??? Power generator/engine at the back of the HAV
Also those little round things on the sides of the Maddie is a weak spot too. You know those green circle things I think you get like 182% with a plc if you hit that spot. Idk about anything elses |
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