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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2015.11.17 00:44:00 -
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CCP. What is the point of having long cool downs and small scan area when a gal logi can easy carry 4 scanner and have my team scanned all match unless you DB is below 20. Come on CCP, limit scanners to 1 per dropsuit so it gives us a wave of opportunity to go in undetected and kill some people.
Either that or make the scanner user light up enemy radar.
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lamo guys
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Posted - 2015.11.17 01:43:00 -
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I does suck but if can't beat um join them! Have someone in your squad perma scan!
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.17 02:38:00 -
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CPM have said something about active scanners should be reworked. I just said make it so people don't glow through FOCKING WALLS.
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Cesar Geronimo
DUST University
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Posted - 2015.11.17 14:47:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:CCP. What is the point of having long cool downs and small scan area when a gal logi can easy carry 4 scanner and have my team scanned all match unless you DB is below 20. Come on CCP, limit scanners to 1 per dropsuit so it gives us a wave of opportunity to go in undetected and kill some people.
Either that or make the scanner user light up enemy radar.
Why the hell would a Gal Logi gimp himself by carrying four scanners? I've never, ever needed more than two... |
Meisterjager Jagermeister
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Posted - 2015.11.17 16:08:00 -
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I have yet to see a gal logi in a pub running 4 x scans.
Gal logis themselves are rare as it is.
In a PC match, bet your ass there will be mega scans start to finish.
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John Psi
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Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.17 20:52:00 -
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Scaners are OP! ))
Please support fair play!
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.17 20:55:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:I have yet to see a gal logi in a pub running 4 x scans.
Gal logis themselves are rare as it is.
In a PC match, bet your ass there will be mega scans start to finish.
Wait, have you never been in a battle with me then??
I carry 4.
All but the standard creodron.
I can scan you with in a 200m distance, scanners are actually game changing. People fear them so much the won't go near an objective. That's confirmed by the multiple perma scan games I've done. What does suck is the low wp reward.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.17 23:06:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:I have yet to see a gal logi in a pub running 4 x scans.
Gal logis themselves are rare as it is.
In a PC match, bet your ass there will be mega scans start to finish. Wait, have you never been in a battle with me then?? I carry 4. All but the standard creodron. I can scan you with in a 200m distance, scanners are actually game changing. People fear them so much the won't go near an objective. That's confirmed by the multiple perma scan games I've done. What does suck is the low wp reward.
Scanners are bullish!t. "I can scan you with in a 200m distance" wtf. All for about 9pg. The flux scanner really needs to be given a higher fitting cost to match its high power description. I say that but I used them myself. Hut only on my my hunting gk.0 scout,all speed and sheilds.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2015.11.18 02:55:00 -
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Okay then, 1 scanner max?
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Taskanoss
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:00:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:CCP. What is the point of having long cool downs and small scan area when a gal logi can easy carry 4 scanner and have my team scanned all match unless you DB is below 20. Come on CCP, limit scanners to 1 per dropsuit so it gives us a wave of opportunity to go in undetected and kill some people.
Either that or make the scanner user light up enemy radar.
Smells like dead Min Scout if I were reading between the lines correctly.
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Richard Gamerich-R
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:02:00 -
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Maybe you should use dampener? Scout suits? Even in assault, 3 complex dampaner and you're under 21db.
For me the scanner is not a problem, but the scanner shared for the team is.
Wait I'm restocking...
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P14GU3
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:06:00 -
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Taskanoss wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:CCP. What is the point of having long cool downs and small scan area when a gal logi can easy carry 4 scanner and have my team scanned all match unless you DB is below 20. Come on CCP, limit scanners to 1 per dropsuit so it gives us a wave of opportunity to go in undetected and kill some people.
Either that or make the scanner user light up enemy radar.
Smells like dead Min Scout if I were reading between the lines correctly.
Ive never used more than one scanner in pubs. It has a decent light up period and only the most max damped scouts, or a gal, can get under it. He would have still probably been a dead scout, so he will still be disappointed if he gets his wish.
I've said it for a year or more possibly, it cant be one or the other always wins. Damps dominated for awhile, now scans are. Until there is a "chance" to win or lose thrown into the ewar game, someone will always be crying.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:06:00 -
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Richard Gamerich-R wrote:Maybe you should use dampener? Scout suits? Even in assault, 3 complex dampaner and you're under 21db.
For me the scanner is not a problem, but the scanner shared for the team is.
My proto Caldari scout with one complex dampener got scanned. My Proto Min Scout with 2 complex damps got scanned. I'm using scouts bro. If it takes them one module (Proto Equipment) to scan me using a suit made for scanning, maybe it should only take one module (Complex) dampener to prevent scans. It's complete B.S. that you have to run 3-4 profile damps and completely gimp your assault suit just to get under the scans of one mother flipping abusive gal logi.
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Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:11:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Taskanoss wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:CCP. What is the point of having long cool downs and small scan area when a gal logi can easy carry 4 scanner and have my team scanned all match unless you DB is below 20. Come on CCP, limit scanners to 1 per dropsuit so it gives us a wave of opportunity to go in undetected and kill some people.
Either that or make the scanner user light up enemy radar.
Smells like dead Min Scout if I were reading between the lines correctly. Ive never used more than one scanner in pubs. It has a decent light up period and only the most max damped scouts, or a gal, can get under it. He would have still probably been a dead scout, so he will still be disappointed if he gets his wish. I've said it for a year or more possibly, it cant be one or the other always wins. Damps dominated for awhile, now scans are. Until there is a "chance" to win or lose thrown into the ewar game, someone will always be crying.
When I'm on a losing team (probably because scanners), I go around and kill stuff with my scout however I always get scanned even though I'm running complex damps (2 on my Amarr Scout) an it's just ridiculous that I'm getting scanned from a hundred meters away in a Scout suit that is probably worthless because everyone on the enemy team can see me and my 2 profile damps aren't doing sh*t to stop scans. That is what frustrates me.
Scans are obviously OP and the only one defending them are pub stompers.
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P14GU3
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:17:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
Scans are obviously OP and the only one defending them are pub stompers.
I never said they weren't OP, but when they weren't, damps were. They have always been one or the other, and there is the issue. Make it something like a 30% chance to scan under a certain db, and 70% chance above. That way even heavy frames get some love, because they get scanned by even the $h!tiest scanners.
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Summa Militum
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:25:00 -
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Scanners should be limited to one per person.
My GaLogi (APEX and Proto version) have two Creodron Active Scanners equipped to them and that is all it takes to permascan the redberries.
One person shouldn't be granted as much power as they are in a match by simply equipping 2 scanners.
Limiting scanners to 1 per person would still allow for the opportunity to permascan the redberries but it would require a coordinated effort by more than one person. |
Anmol Singh
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:26:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Scanners should be limited to one per person.
My GaLogi (APEX and Proto version) have two Creodron Active Scanners equipped to them and that is all it takes to permascan the redberries.
One person shouldn't be granted as much power as they are in a match by simply equipping 2 scanners.
Limiting scanners to 1 per person would still allow for the opportunity to permascan the redberries but it would require a coordinated effort by more than one person.
100% agree.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:28:00 -
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Or we can make scanners not make people glow through walls.
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Joel II X
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Posted - 2015.11.18 03:56:00 -
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Annoying? Yes.
Game breaking? Depends who you talk to.
STD suck.
ADV are only decent until someone uses a single damp.
PRO are the only scanners with consistent results.
If you want to dodge scans, use a scout.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.11.18 04:26:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Annoying? Yes.
Game breaking? Depends who you talk to.
STD suck.
ADV are only decent until someone uses a single damp.
PRO are the only scanners with consistent results.
If you want to dodge scans, use a scout.
You can't just tell someone to use a Scout and expect that to be a solution. Scanners affect everyone on a particular team so a solution would have to address that fact.
If you have a bunch of people running around in Scout Suits in attempt to avoid being scanned then you are just going to be left with a bunch of Scouts getting slaughtered repeatedly throughout the match. |
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.18 04:32:00 -
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Again. Just make scanners not have people GLOW THROUGH WALLS. or you know,Nerf the flux active scanner,because with two of those its like having a permant wallhack.
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
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Posted - 2015.11.18 04:54:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:CCP. What is the point of having long cool downs and small scan area when a gal logi can easy carry 4 scanner and have my team scanned all match unless you DB is below 20. Come on CCP, limit scanners to 1 per dropsuit so it gives us a wave of opportunity to go in undetected and kill some people.
Either that or make the scanner user light up enemy radar.
20dB? You have to be under 15 to avoid all scans. All scouts should be able to get below the max scan number by running all damps.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.11.18 05:47:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Again. Just make scanners not have people GLOW THROUGH WALLS. or you know,Nerf the flux active scanner,because with two of those its like having a permant wallhack.
I honestly don't like this idea. The factions to my understanding are supposed to be highly advanced races of people with advanced technology so therefore I would not like to see the technology in this game limited to less than what we actually have in real life.
Instead of viewing the effect of scanners as making people "glow through walls" try to view it instead as a display projected from within the helmet that the merc is wearing.
I believe giving the scanners more of a snapshot effect would be a better route instead of the current effect where a scanner seems to livestream your every movement while you are scanned. |
Summa Militum
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Posted - 2015.11.18 05:50:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:CCP. What is the point of having long cool downs and small scan area when a gal logi can easy carry 4 scanner and have my team scanned all match unless you DB is below 20. Come on CCP, limit scanners to 1 per dropsuit so it gives us a wave of opportunity to go in undetected and kill some people.
Either that or make the scanner user light up enemy radar.
20dB? You have to be under 15 to avoid all scans. All scouts should be able to get below the max scan number by running all damps.
I have a GalScout with a scan profile of 16dB I use for when people are using Proto Scanners and so far I have never been scanned in that suit; of course there is a chance I have just never come across a GalLogi using Duvolle Focused Active Scanners. |
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Posted - 2015.11.18 06:17:00 -
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I still want to know why CCP thought Active Scanners were a good idea.
And I would also like to know why Active Scanners haven't been given leukemia, AIDS, and buried six feet under while still alive and kicking.
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Nyain San
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Posted - 2015.11.18 11:21:00 -
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active scanners wouldn't even be necessary if blueberries would pay attention.
seriously how many times have you been killed by or been killing as a scout, and nobody bothers to look at the radar and killfeed to see theres a shotgun behind their back.
in pc of course its great for getting serious, but in pubs it really shouldn't be necessary...yet lord have mercy, those tunnel vision blueberries.
Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó
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Posted - 2015.11.18 16:58:00 -
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Richard Gamerich-R wrote:Maybe you should use dampener? Scout suits? Even in assault, 3 complex dampaner and you're under 21db.
For me the scanner is not a problem, but the scanner shared for the team is.
Assaults still get scanned with 3 dampeners on sadly enough...
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.18 17:05:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Again. Just make scanners not have people GLOW THROUGH WALLS. or you know,Nerf the flux active scanner,because with two of those its like having a permant wallhack. I honestly don't like this idea. The factions to my understanding are supposed to be highly advanced races of people with advanced technology so therefore I would not like to see the technology in this game limited to less than what we actually have in real life. Instead of viewing the effect of scanners as making people "glow through walls" try to view it instead as a display projected from within the helmet that the merc is wearing. I believe giving the scanners more of a snapshot effect would be a better route instead of the current effect where a scanner seems to livestream your every movement while you are scanned.
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Posted - 2015.11.18 18:24:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Richard Gamerich-R wrote:Maybe you should use dampener? Scout suits? Even in assault, 3 complex dampaner and you're under 21db.
For me the scanner is not a problem, but the scanner shared for the team is. My proto Caldari scout with one complex dampener got scanned. My Proto Min Scout with 2 complex damps got scanned. I'm using scouts bro. If it takes them one module (Proto Equipment) to scan me using a suit made for scanning, maybe it should only take one module (Complex) dampener to prevent scans. It's complete B.S. that you have to run 3-4 profile damps and completely gimp your assault suit just to get under the scans of one mother flipping abusive gal logi.
Excuse me abusive...WE MAKE NO ******* WP OFF THAT **** SURE YOUR SCANNED WERE ******* USELESS IN WP USELESS! RUNNING SCANS THE WHOLE GAME WERE NEXT TO USELESS WITH OUT ARE SCANS WE GET ARE SCANS NERFED THEN WERE GOING TO BE UNDER THE CAL LOGI! YOU HAVE ACCESS TO to SCANS TOOO!
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Posted - 2015.11.18 18:34:00 -
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Why not have scans, scan both blue and red regardless of what side your on? After all wouldn't the TAC net pick up any non encrypted radio signals? And considering that it's team wide visuals I would assume that the ping would be non encrypted.
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