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Europa Antares
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.11.07 21:56:00 -
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I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else.
We are made of the Dust, born of the Dust. Our strongboxes are yet to open.
Fear the old Dust
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Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
2
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Posted - 2015.11.07 22:19:00 -
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Europa Antares wrote:I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else.
So you are suggesting to just let the game die? Eventually Sony will pull support for the PS3 and that will be the end of Dust.
Porting to next-gen is risky. However it is a necessary risk to ensure the game will survive. Yes there are somethings they need to change and improve on, but as it stands right now, this game is on borrowed time. A port can breathe new life into this game, which is what is needed.
Director of T-W-L
Keeper of the List
Lord of Scrubs
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.07 22:26:00 -
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*cough*PC*cough*
Im just a glorified blueberry
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
479
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Posted - 2015.11.07 22:27:00 -
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Europa Antares wrote:I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else. You can't keep players because of the learning curve and the brutality of New Eden. FPS games want to make you feel badass. This game is the exact opposite of that.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.11.07 22:35:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:*cough*PC*cough*
Hush,you're not allowed to say anything until you make that PC that's supposed to be better than a ps4 for the price of 350$.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
1
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Posted - 2015.11.07 22:39:00 -
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PS4 is current gen not next gen. PS3 is last gen.
Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
17
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Posted - 2015.11.07 22:43:00 -
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Here's a wild-and-crazy idea:
Improve NPE.
Dropsuit Usage Rates
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
722
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Posted - 2015.11.07 23:00:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:*cough*PC*cough* Better have controller support =ƒÿä
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
Imps>NS>NF
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Radiant Pancake3
KILL-EM-QUICK
2
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Posted - 2015.11.08 00:17:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:*cough*PC*cough* Hush,you're not allowed to say anything until you make that PC that's supposed to be better than a ps4 for the price of 350$. This
Learned the ways of N4g from Alcina's mom
Deemed the most Kinkiest Corp Mate.
Min Loyalist.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
993
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Posted - 2015.11.08 03:12:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:*cough*PC*cough* Hush,you're not allowed to say anything until you make that PC that's supposed to be better than a ps4 for the price of 350$. This
You had your shot at a pc port with legion.
It's ps4 or nothing.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.08 03:14:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:*cough*PC*cough* Hush,you're not allowed to say anything until you make that PC that's supposed to be better than a ps4 for the price of 350$. This You had your shot at a pc port with legion. It's pc or nothing. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uuwa6DOtRfE FTFY!
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
4
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Posted - 2015.11.08 03:15:00 -
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OP is ridiculous....how do you unlike x10?
"Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit"
Check RND out here
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Starlight Burner
586
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Posted - 2015.11.08 04:22:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:*cough*PC*cough*
CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation
Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
ROCK BAND 4 OMG! =ƒÄ+GÖ¬
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2015.11.08 05:22:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:Europa Antares wrote:I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else. You can't keep players because of the learning curve and the brutality of New Eden. FPS games want to make you feel badass. This game is the exact opposite of that.
Negative. The complexity of Dust is not even 1/10th the complexity of EVE. Dust is not difficult to understand, it's just the NPE that is terrible.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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4lbert Wesker
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
541
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Posted - 2015.11.08 06:36:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:*cough*PC*cough* Hush,you're not allowed to say anything until you make that PC that's supposed to be better than a ps4 for the price of 350$.
Yes,you can. 350 dollar PC is better than PS4... Lol "EIGHT" core CPU on PS4... You do realize Jaguar APU is meant for low level PC and low power consumption? In other words, PS4 is piece of crap
WESKER S.T.A.R.S. is not my corporation!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
12
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Posted - 2015.11.08 08:14:00 -
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DUST 514 for Nintendo DS confirmed.
Sgt Kirk's Youtube Channel
Skype: jadkirk
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
1
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Posted - 2015.11.08 08:56:00 -
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Europa Antares wrote:I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else. The fact that it's free IS what sells it, if people had to pay for it, they probably wouldn't bother trying it out.
No.Gäó
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Da Harbinger
Nyain San
29
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Posted - 2015.11.08 09:01:00 -
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Well hello peeps,
If Dust was to port over I guarantee alot of old and new players would be playing. Myself included. I played Dust thru Closed beta for almost two years. Im ready to jump back at it. PORT IT!!!!!
btw I MISS YOU GUYS
Fly safe, Shoot Straight o7
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Scotty AI MatchMaker
WarRavens Imperium Eden
384
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Posted - 2015.11.08 13:01:00 -
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bring it out on all now gen, PC, Ps4, Xbox. if we where all killing each other all under one roof you would have the first game of its kind to do so, CoD ghosts did an all gen clan thing, its possible to do, plus you would have all the fanboys making clan and corps to rep there console. look at EvE, you can run it on an outdated windows 7 laptop because they wanted people with slightly low end machines to cope with playing, not really sure if doing the same with Dust is a good idea even if golden can makes us all high spec rigs for $350
'A man can have anything if he is willing to sacrifice.' -The MatchMaker
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
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Posted - 2015.11.08 13:28:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Europa Antares wrote:I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else. So you are suggesting to just let the game die? Eventually Sony will pull support for the PS3 and that will be the end of Dust. Porting to next-gen is risky. However it is a necessary risk to ensure the game will survive. Yes there are somethings they need to change and improve on, but as it stands right now, this game is on borrowed time. A port can breathe new life into this game, which is what is needed.
It doesn't make sense for the company to take the financial risk given the produced results from the staff they have.
Given the lack of ability on the dev team, better to take the operating profit as long as they can, rather than invest in what will surely be a direction less mish mash of cribbed ideas from other games.
CCP can I'll afford another red ink producer.
Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.11.08 13:56:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Here's a wild-and-crazy idea:
Improve NPE. Agreed, Adipem. The NPE: Our core issue and the primary driver of Dust's continuing failure. Improving the NPE is the only real thing Rattati can do to help this game. Everything else is a secondary issue.
The progression system was CCP's single biggest contribution to the NPE. The Progression system is an abject failure.
One wonders how much devtime went into that. Failure was totally predictable - CCP once again went ahead and developed 'a solution' without community input. It should be removed, it's bloat the client doesn't need and the latest in a long line of lessons that should indicate to any rational entity that collaboration with an experienced and still-passionate playerbase is the way forward. Every. Single. Time.
What would work, given the constraints the developers face with the client, is:
- Asymmetric WP payouts. Several proposals for this on the forum.
- In PUBS, address the insurmountable power gap that shared scans creates for new players.
- In pubs, address the (increasing) power gap in gear metalevel.
- In pubs, address match leaving through a real contract system.
And don't forget, CCP, for your next attempt at a shooter, that nothing replaces a real interactive tutorial. The tutorials we are talking about here are not about teaching a player 'how to shoot a gun'.
If you don't understand what a tutorial would really be about, just ask the community.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Dragonmeballs
Better Hide R Die
261
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Posted - 2015.11.08 14:26:00 -
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Europa Antares wrote:I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else.
A port to PS4 solves one problem for CCP but creates another....how many mercs born in the the last year live in countries where the PS4 is very expensive compared to the PS3?
If you can't get those players to buy a PS4 you sure as hell aren't going to convince them to buy a PC that is "out of date" in a couple of years for a game.
If CCP is making money with the player base they have now (and I submit the majority are not from the US) then what makes you think they are going to make a risky leap to another platform without some assurances the'll have the same or bigger revenue stream for that one?
A port to PS4 in 2018 makes a little bit of sense. Porting Dust to the PS5 sounds like a good idea but the slow release of games at the birth of the PS4 proves it would be just the opposite case.
We are stuck with Dust on the PS3 for at least another year or two. We need to make the best of it.
Focus on NPE and fixes to the broken mechanics which affect the quality of gameplay.
Caldari in the streets, Amarr between the sheets
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tritan abbattere
DBAG CORE
64
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Posted - 2015.11.22 02:58:00 -
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Maybe CCP should look into crowd funding and see how many people want it ported to PC and ps4. Crowdfunding a tool that I think should be used more often to get things we want as a community. I think the eve community would love to see a PC version and the rest of us on the ground would love to see a port to PS4 for better performance and graphics.
I really want to see this game expand so it can grow faster and get a bigger development team so more content would be pushed out or higher quality or both.
As to the OP i really want to see this game live as long as EVE online. For that to happen it will need to be ported. I love being able to heal faster then 1 dude shooting a guy at range or have a grenade launcher as a primary. This game is different then most shooters and that is why I like it. SO I have to say please do find a way to port it and do it.
I am the all mighty Tritan. Fear me for I am a MassHole
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2015.11.22 04:17:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Europa Antares wrote:I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else. So you are suggesting to just let the game die? Eventually Sony will pull support for the PS3 and that will be the end of Dust. Porting to next-gen is risky. However it is a necessary risk to ensure the game will survive. Yes there are somethings they need to change and improve on, but as it stands right now, this game is on borrowed time. A port can breathe new life into this game, which is what is needed. It doesn't make sense for the company to take the financial risk given the produced results from the staff they have. Given the lack of ability on the dev team, better to take the operating profit as long as they can, rather than invest in what will surely be a direction less mish mash of cribbed ideas from other games. CCP can I'll afford another red ink producer. what risk? Look at the ****** state this game is in - and it's currently somewhat profitable. PS4 is an easier to work with system for updates, it makes no sense for them not to port it. Especially if they're serious about a real connection between an FPS and EvE, which they seemingly are.
If anything, it's the opposite of what you're saying, CCP has already invested too much in models and mechanics to not go ahead with this.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
977
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Posted - 2015.11.22 04:42:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Golden Day wrote:*cough*PC*cough* Hush,you're not allowed to say anything until you make that PC that's supposed to be better than a ps4 for the price of 350$. Steambox.
ONE VOICE//ONE COMMUNITY
Support Dust/EvE cross content
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
632
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Posted - 2015.11.22 05:31:00 -
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Europa Antares wrote:I don't care if it's contract crap or anything, but don't port DUST to next gen. We don't have a steady source of new incoming players to profit the game at all, and the game's free on the PlayStation store! You literally can't GIVE this game away! If DUST ports to next-gen people are gonna look at it, shrug and walk away to play planet side or anything else. Nonsense Negative Nancy!! More and more people are buying PS4s and it performs way better than it's predecessor. |
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