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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:02:00 -
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It out-DPSes AND OUT TANKS the bloody Freedom Assault HMG on an Amarr Sentinel within its optimum range.
No argument you can come up with will refute that in my eyes. Sorry, **** needs to be nerfed immediately.
Give them a penalty to eHP or something, man.
Enjoy your shit game, I'll be on Star Wars Battlefront, a game that was designed for jumpy bullshit unlike this one.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:09:00 -
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Lol no it doesn't, bring me the numbers for your statement and I will concede to your POV.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:27:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Lol no it doesn't, bring me the numbers for your statement and I will concede to your POV.
I mean maybe it says more about how good the Assault HMG is but still
I saw him, he scratched my shields a bit while I depleted his with my scrambler pistol. I ducked behind cover, pulled out the HMG... it didn't even get his armor 3/4 of the way down before I died.
They have also stared me down point blank with them but again that probably speaks more to the quality of the Assault HMG
However I still dont think a heavy weapon should be doing less damage, especially when it's armor based damage and the Assault Rifle is hybrid shield damage
Enjoy your shit game, I'll be on Star Wars Battlefront, a game that was designed for jumpy bullshit unlike this one.
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Sardonk Eternia
Tiny Universe
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Posted - 2015.10.27 02:44:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Lol no it doesn't, bring me the numbers for your statement and I will concede to your POV. I mean maybe it says more about how good the Assault HMG is but still I saw him, he scratched my shields a bit while I depleted his with my scrambler pistol. I ducked behind cover, pulled out the HMG... it didn't even get his armor 3/4 of the way down before I died. They have also stared me down point blank with them but again that probably speaks more to the quality of the Assault HMG However I still dont think a heavy weapon should be doing less damage, especially when it's armor based damage and the Assault Rifle is hybrid shield damage
All that anecdotal evidence!
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.27 03:04:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Lol no it doesn't, bring me the numbers for your statement and I will concede to your POV. I mean maybe it says more about how good the Assault HMG is but still I saw him, he scratched my shields a bit while I depleted his with my scrambler pistol. I ducked behind cover, pulled out the HMG... it didn't even get his armor 3/4 of the way down before I died. They have also stared me down point blank with them but again that probably speaks more to the quality of the Assault HMG However I still dont think a heavy weapon should be doing less damage, especially when it's armor based damage and the Assault Rifle is hybrid shield damage
Still doesn't give solid numbers.
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TheEnd762
SVER True Blood
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.10.27 04:12:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Still doesn't give solid numbers.
There's often a huge difference in what numbers allege, and how things actually work in the field. |
Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.10.27 05:42:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:It out-DPSes AND OUT TANKS the bloody Freedom Assault HMG on an Amarr Sentinel within its optimum range.
No argument you can come up with will refute that in my eyes. Sorry, **** needs to be nerfed immediately.
Give them a penalty to eHP or something, man.
User error.
If you get rocked within your own optimal using a suit that easily has double the EHP of your opponent while using a weapon with considerably more DPS and a better damage profile to boot, then you are entirely to blame.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.10.27 06:41:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:It out-DPSes AND OUT TANKS the bloody Freedom Assault HMG on an Amarr Sentinel within its optimum range.
What the actual f*ck???
I have encountered a lot of things in DUST 514 that are odd and/or dumb. This has not been one of them.
Please elaborate further.
Also bear in mind that just because sentinels are strong in close doesn't mean they are intended to be unstoppable 1v1 in close.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.27 21:09:00 -
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So I breach assault rifled a HMG in the back... Was wearing a galmando, so we better nerf the galmando. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.10.28 03:36:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Still doesn't give solid numbers. There's often a huge difference in what numbers allege, and how things actually work in the field.
No, unless there is a bug, or unless the math is not taking into account some other numbers.
Looking for excuses to preemptively dismiss evidence to excuse having to present any evidence is counterproductive. Anecdote is not enough.
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Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E
The Ditanian Alliance
300
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Posted - 2015.10.28 03:50:00 -
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Well armor's just extremely OP.... There's just nothing that can really beat it, a logi, a gal aslt and a wiyrkomi triage hive, a dude with a breach AR couldn't even down me, so I soaked up the damage, fact is, armor itself is too powerful, that's why you can't kill any of these Gallente player's, too much can affect their recovery status' positively, so either the HP need's to be cut back on armor, which would be preferred, or Anti armor weapon's efficiency need's to go up, so that we CAN kill these GAL BAR individual's (plus others).
Too much HP, too much power, not enough equivalence exchange (glass cannon fitting).
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.28 04:19:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:Well armor's just extremely OP.... There's just nothing that can really beat it, a logi, a gal aslt and a wiyrkomi triage hive, a dude with a breach AR couldn't even down me, so I soaked up the damage, fact is, armor itself is too powerful, that's why you can't kill any of these Gallente player's, too much can affect their recovery status' positively, so either the HP need's to be cut back on armor, which would be preferred, or Anti armor weapon's efficiency need's to go up, so that we CAN kill these GAL BAR individual's (plus others).
Too much HP, too much power, not enough equivalence exchange (glass cannon fitting).
You are entirely wrong there, but I will not concede to arguing with you for the sake of the current situation. What the OP here is trying to say is that a Gal Assault (an armor tanker) beat a Amarr Sentinel (another armor tanker).
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.28 15:56:00 -
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Nurf naow too stowng.
Without any real evidence ie video/ number's your coming off as a whiny ***** op
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.10.28 23:45:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:too much can affect their recovery status' positively, so either the HP need's to be cut back on armor, which would be preferred, or Anti armor weapon's efficiency need's to go up, so that we CAN kill these GAL BAR individual's (plus others).
Too much HP, too much power, not enough equivalence exchange (glass cannon fitting).
Or you could flux the hives? Shoot the logi? Bring a second guy to the fight... Forge their face off? Nothing reps that. |
Zan Azikuchi
G.R.A.V.E
The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.29 16:54:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Zan Azikuchi wrote:too much can affect their recovery status' positively, so either the HP need's to be cut back on armor, which would be preferred, or Anti armor weapon's efficiency need's to go up, so that we CAN kill these GAL BAR individual's (plus others).
Too much HP, too much power, not enough equivalence exchange (glass cannon fitting). Or you could flux the hives? Shoot the logi? Bring a second guy to the fight... Forge their face off? Nothing reps that.
Lol, my post come's from personal experience with a Galass, a proto BAR, 2 wirykomi triage hives and a min logi, not even a blaster tank could effectively shoot me down. 2 triage hives rocking at once and with a wee bit of strafing, I was literally immortal.
Fact is, no matter how much player's may complain about it, armor can in fact get just as much if not more armor than what shield's can get per second, be it solo or if you truly want to feel like an "Immortal Mercenary" stick a min logi with a core focused on yourself and just jump on triage hives, that's over approximately: 263 rep's per second (core focused if i remember properly is 123, wirykomi triage hives is 70 each). And yes a proto assault has the bandwith to rock 2 triage hives at a time.
No one's really gonna try fluxing the hive's rather than ignorantly shoot at me hoping to out dps the rep's. Killing the logi, my reply to that would be... DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!? IM THE JUGGERNAUT B****! And how many people have ACTUALLY gotten through juggernaut to hit his teammates?
When looking at it, Armor has become just as "broken" as shield's used to be back in closed beta and everybody bat's an eye toward's it.
(F.Y.I. If we kept shield's as a constant regen back then, we would never have needed to make buff's or nerf's for so many weapon's in the first place, down the line, it's really the communities fault for CCP's extra hard work.)
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