DUST Search - How to stop people leaving.

Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:

So my brother is using his tablet, playing a game taut I don't know. He says he got placed on a crappy team but won't leave the match even if he's being stomped and can't carry the team (different abilities and counters. Enemy has the counter to his ability)

What interested me was that, and i quote, "if I leave x matches, I get banned for x time". Which in my honest opinion is a good way to keep people in battles. Let's analyze this deeper.

Dust and his game are free with ingame stuff to buy.

Both include teams and the objective to kill enemy.

Both have some issues- his mostly just lag, dust a lot more.

Why wounds this fit perfectly in dust?

Let's look at something else.

WHY DO PEOPLE LEAVE???

They are stomped
They are bored of stomping
Teams are uneven
Rage quits.

They are leaving because they don't want to contribute to the team and start a chain where everyone starts to leave.
So, why not ban them? These players obviously don't want to participate and try to win, why would they even bother to play then?
You see where I'm going?

My idea- leave 3 matches= 10m ban from match (you cannot search a battle and will be kicked from squad)

With this, there is a reason for people to not leave battles anymore, including the fact that you won't get isk/Sp.

What do you think?

Edit- just to add in there, rich people are already rich, isk isn't so much even a thing to them. But how would increasing payouts affect the amount of times people leave a match??? I'm pretty sure someone would stay in a battle if they recieved a nice base payout for at least staying in the match, no?

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Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.23 21:34:00 - [1] - Quote So my brother is using his tablet, playing a game taut I don't know. He says he got placed on a crappy team but won't leave the match even if he's being stomped and can't carry the team (different abilities and counters. Enemy has the counter to his ability) What interested me was that, and i quote, "if I leave x matches, I get banned for x time". Which in my honest opinion is a good way to keep people in battles. Let's analyze this deeper. Dust and his game are free with ingame stuff to buy. Both include teams and the objective to kill enemy. Both have some issues- his mostly just lag, dust a lot more. Why wounds this fit perfectly in dust? Let's look at something else. WHY DO PEOPLE LEAVE??? They are stomped They are bored of stomping Teams are uneven Rage quits. They are leaving because they don't want to contribute to the team and start a chain where everyone starts to leave. So, why not ban them? These players obviously don't want to participate and try to win, why would they even bother to play then? You see where I'm going? My idea- leave 3 matches= 10m ban from match (you cannot search a battle and will be kicked from squad) With this, there is a reason for people to not leave battles anymore, including the fact that you won't get isk/Sp. What do you think? CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
qwertix qwertix Antenna Research 75	Posted - 2015.10.23 21:43:00 - [2] - Quote How to stop people leaving? the answer is fair play > Salve!
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.23 21:44:00 - [3] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: So my brother is using his tablet, playing a game taut I don't know. He says he got placed on a crappy team but won't leave the match even if he's being stomped and can't carry the team (different abilities and counters. Enemy has the counter to his ability) What interested me was that, and i quote, "if I leave x matches, I get banned for x time". Which in my honest opinion is a good way to keep people in battles. Let's analyze this deeper. Dust and his game are free with ingame stuff to buy. Both include teams and the objective to kill enemy. Both have some issues- his mostly just lag, dust a lot more. Why wounds this fit perfectly in dust? Let's look at something else. WHY DO PEOPLE LEAVE??? They are stomped They are bored of stomping Teams are uneven Rage quits. They are leaving because they don't want to contribute to the team and start a chain where everyone starts to leave. So, why not ban them? These players obviously don't want to participate and try to win, why would they even bother to play then? You see where I'm going? My idea- leave 3 matches= 10m ban from match (you cannot search a battle and will be kicked from squad) With this, there is a reason for people to not leave battles anymore, including the fact that you won't get isk/Sp. What do you think? Interesting, and very doable. There are some games that already do this, like LoL and WoW. I also think with the stick there should be a carrot as well. Maybe a reward for completing X amount of matches. Director of T-W-L Keeper of the List Lord of Scrubs
Lost Apollo Moose Knuckle Pros 190	Posted - 2015.10.23 21:45:00 - [4] - Quote Stop ******* stomping My armor is weak, but my shields are relentless. State 'Rasetsu' Assault Born - April 1, 2013
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.10.23 21:52:00 - [5] - Quote Lost Apollo wrote: Stop ******* stomping That's something that can never happen because of dusts nature. Every merc has their right to use what ever the f they feel like wearing because 1 they earned it, 2 they decided to wear it. You think i don't decide whether I want to run rattatis/scots or pro??? You can't stop me from running that because I chose to wear it and I've reached the skill to earn it. Why should stompers be restricted from using what they want and rightfully deserve to use just because the enemy doesn't want to put up a fight??? You think us stompers have it easy too?? Matches get rally boring after every leaves. I'm not directly saying this to you. As I reread it it does sound like it, but I'm speaking for the stompers. Don't feel offended. And if you do, well nothing I can do about that. But yeah. Point is, people also dont what to put up a good fight and actually play the game. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Twitter- @LD3514
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.10.23 21:58:00 - [6] - Quote Doesnt cs:go give you a matchmaking cooldown? Just give us three chances to join and after leaving fourth match just give us a matchmaking ban for 30 minutes. And then give me the option to switch teams for more pay so i can kill people. (And dont try to say real life wont let you stay in a single game for 15 minutes. Fix your issues before you commit to a match. I dont believe that excuse.) Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Shaun Iwairo DUST University Ivy League 303	Posted - 2015.10.23 22:00:00 - [7] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Doesnt cs:go give you a matchmaking cooldown? Just give us three chances to join and after leaving fourth match just give us a matchmaking ban for 30 minutes. And then give me the option to switch teams for more pay so i can kill people. (And dont try to say real life wont let you stay in a single game for 15 minutes. Fix your issues before you commit to a match. I dont believe that excuse.) Yep a straight up ban for your first leave could screw some people that legit got DC'd. Something is killing new player retention.
Byron Triefletcher Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 31	Posted - 2015.10.23 22:02:00 - [8] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: Doesnt cs:go give you a matchmaking cooldown? Just give us three chances to join and after leaving fourth match just give us a matchmaking ban for 30 minutes. And then give me the option to switch teams for more pay so i can kill people. (And dont try to say real life wont let you stay in a single game for 15 minutes. Fix your issues before you commit to a match. I dont believe that excuse.) Ya, cooldowns for multiple offenders is an easy way to ease into a punishment. The switch-team-for-more-pay option is super interesting, too. I like it. Is it subject to abuse? Of course, the biggest issue is the matchmaking itself, but that's a real hard problem to solve with a small playerbase. I still think the best option is to tweak PC in such a way as to attract both newberries AND bitterberries, but to different areas (low value systems that newbros fight over, high value systems that vets fight over). Fighting for Matari Freedom.
Byron Triefletcher Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance 31	Posted - 2015.10.23 22:05:00 - [9] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Edit- just to add in there, rich people are already rich, isk isn't so much even a thing to them. But how would increasing payouts affect the amount of times people leave a match??? I'm pretty sure someone would stay in a battle if they recieved a nice base payout for at least staying in the match, no? Whoa, this is super interesting, too. What if the after match payout is a POOL, and it's split equally between everyone who stays through the end of the match? 3M ISK after match bonus between twelve people starts to look real attractive after 6 people have left and you're splitting the 3M between the 6 of you - it also encourages you to be a little more loose with pulling out the heavy gear to try to turn the tide of battle. Fighting for Matari Freedom.
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 290	Posted - 2015.10.23 22:09:00 - [10] - Quote Lol's, listen, It's purely the self proclaimed pro corp's fault (think nyain clan and all them) and the fact that most players are in fact casuals, so they're not gonna put up a fight, not as much as a tryhard. Want to stop people from leaving? Get CCP to put in PvE, that'll stop people from leaving. When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.10.23 22:30:00 - [11] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: WHY DO PEOPLE LEAVE??? . . Teams are uneven . . You forgot one thing in addition to that: People think that teams are uneven. The sad thing is, after they leave, then the teams really are uneven. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROBPO" for list of bpos for sale.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 17	Posted - 2015.10.24 00:05:00 - [12] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Let's look at something else. WHY DO PEOPLE LEAVE??? They are stomped They are bored of stomping Teams are uneven Rage quits. + Framerate drops + Rubberbanding / Lag + Scottied squadmates + Blackscreen + Bad and/or buggy maps + Getting spawncamped + Late arrival (low pay) + Campy blueberries + Real life happens (the list goes on) Dropsuit Usage Rates
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 17	Posted - 2015.10.24 00:06:00 - [13] - Quote [oops! doublepost] Dropsuit Usage Rates
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 3	Posted - 2015.10.24 00:38:00 - [14] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: So my brother is using his tablet, playing a game taut I don't know. He says he got placed on a crappy team but won't leave the match even if he's being stomped and can't carry the team (different abilities and counters. Enemy has the counter to his ability) What interested me was that, and i quote, "if I leave x matches, I get banned for x time". Which in my honest opinion is a good way to keep people in battles. Let's analyze this deeper. Dust and his game are free with ingame stuff to buy. Both include teams and the objective to kill enemy. Both have some issues- his mostly just lag, dust a lot more. Why wounds this fit perfectly in dust? Let's look at something else. WHY DO PEOPLE LEAVE??? They are stomped They are bored of stomping Teams are uneven Rage quits. They are leaving because they don't want to contribute to the team and start a chain where everyone starts to leave. So, why not ban them? These players obviously don't want to participate and try to win, why would they even bother to play then? You see where I'm going? My idea- leave 3 matches= 10m ban from match (you cannot search a battle and will be kicked from squad) With this, there is a reason for people to not leave battles anymore, including the fact that you won't get isk/Sp. What do you think? Edit- just to add in there, rich people are already rich, isk isn't so much even a thing to them. But how would increasing payouts affect the amount of times people leave a match??? I'm pretty sure someone would stay in a battle if they recieved a nice base payout for at least staying in the match, no? I believe my thread on refill rates found a solution. Lock players to matches for the time that it is active. Meaning if they leave battle and hit search they are returned to the battle that they left.
bamboo x Eternal Beings RUST415 1	Posted - 2015.10.24 01:14:00 - [15] - Quote Yep. Nintendo does it on Smash Bros 4. Wow, I'm finally unbanned. After like a year. That's how you know you've been playing a game too long.
Union118 TH3 STRUGGL3 816	Posted - 2015.10.24 01:38:00 - [16] - Quote I dont understand why people dont just snipe. You get isk and sp and if you are good your KDR goes up. So whats the problem. Sure i rage quit and stop playing to cooloff and asses my situation and try again. Also im kicked from battle or have to leave due to black screen issue. But for the most part im in and i stay in. Like last night i went 1 v 12 and got 3 kills. Could of had more but i was scared and had to reposition several times and i was testing a turbo controller which sucks and i switched to a regular controller. The turbo is garbage and acts like a gamestop controller with delay of movement. Good job CCP im happy for that. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Raven-747 Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 222	Posted - 2015.10.24 03:37:00 - [17] - Quote @op To much text to read so I read the first few line Here is the thing you punish players for leaving battle? Fine lets all sit in the mcc and move around. I think the main problem fro so much stomping it the sqd member nerf. Think about it back then when we had 6 man sqd there was comparatively less stomping and most of the time people din't quit. With 6 man sqd there is always another 6 man sqd to counter it. 4 is just too less. Idk if this is true or not but this is what I think. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BITCH!!!!
Grimmiers 895	Posted - 2015.10.24 03:55:00 - [18] - Quote Give them 3 minutes to rejoin the match they left and if they don't they get a penalty. This would stop full squads from leaving because someone didn't get in too. If a leader joins the player should get an option to enter that battle, but you only get a penalty if you quit battle and don't rejoin in time. Basically like csgo Then you can add a contract loyalty stat as a carrot. Like when the ai lady says you not participating has been noted that would actually affect you. Cap bonus should be really rewarding like better salvage and +50% isk and even more loyalty points (loyalty points need a buff).
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 1	Posted - 2015.10.24 04:48:00 - [19] - Quote qwertix qwertix wrote: How to stop people leaving? the answer is fair play lmao, should we play one handed just for you or? The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y, (~..)~ Now on Youtube ~(..~)


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