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Byron Triefletcher
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.22 18:16:00 -
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...that during the Crimson Harvest, I'm fighting with the Blood Raiders against the Amarr, and that any reward I receive will come straight from the pirates.
Sure, they're some scary crazy psychos, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend... at least for a week.
Who's with me? Matari brethren?
Fighting for Matari Freedom.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.10.22 18:30:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.22 18:40:00 -
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Byron Triefletcher wrote:...that during the Crimson Harvest, I'm fighting with the Blood Raiders against the Amarr, and that any reward I receive will come straight from the pirates.
Sure, they're some scary crazy psychos, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend... at least for a week.
Who's with me? Matari brethren?
((RP Mode Activated))
I am sorry, brother, but I can not agree with you. The Empire has it's faults, and they have been the sole reason why the Matari, my father's people, are struggling. The Empire deserves to be crushed.
However, after what happened with Cale and his cult, I can not stand by and allow these savage beasts rise to anymore power. Yes, the enemy of my enemy may indeed be my friend, but what if that "friend" is a greater evil?
Should we not instead side with the lesser of evils to remove the greater? Should we not cast aside our hatred for a breif moment to deal with this threat? I say, "Aye, we should."
After these monsters have been dealt with, we will revisit our previous war against the hated Amarr.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.22 18:42:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Byron Triefletcher wrote:...that during the Crimson Harvest, I'm fighting with the Blood Raiders against the Amarr, and that any reward I receive will come straight from the pirates.
Sure, they're some scary crazy psychos, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend... at least for a week.
Who's with me? Matari brethren? ((RP Mode Activated)) I am sorry, brother, but I can not agree with you. The Empire has it's faults, and they have been the sole reason why the Matari, my father's people, are struggling. The Empire deserves to be crushed. However, after what happened with Cale and his cult, I can not stand by and allow these savage beasts rise to anymore power. Yes, the enemy of my enemy may indeed be my friend, but what if that "friend" is a greater evil? Should we not instead side with the lesser of evils to remove the greater? Should we not cast aside our hatred for a breif moment to deal with this threat? I say, "Aye, we should." After these monsters have been dealt with, we will revisit our previous war against the hated Amarr.
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Byron Triefletcher
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.22 21:27:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Byron Triefletcher wrote:...that during the Crimson Harvest, I'm fighting with the Blood Raiders against the Amarr, and that any reward I receive will come straight from the pirates.
Sure, they're some scary crazy psychos, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend... at least for a week.
Who's with me? Matari brethren? ((RP Mode Activated)) I am sorry, brother, but I can not agree with you. The Empire has it's faults, and they have been the sole reason why the Matari, my father's people, are struggling. The Empire deserves to be crushed. However, after what happened with Cale and his cult, I can not stand by and allow these savage beasts rise to anymore power. Yes, the enemy of my enemy may indeed be my friend, but what if that "friend" is a greater evil? Should we not instead side with the lesser of evils to remove the greater? Should we not cast aside our hatred for a breif moment to deal with this threat? I say, "Aye, we should." After these monsters have been dealt with, we will revisit our previous war against the hated Amarr. I don't know of Cale or his cult, but... perhaps you're right...
But something tells me no. I mean... are the Raiders truly the greater evil? They are pirates, true, but that term means little to me. I've seen noble men called pirates by those who would discredit them.
Not to say the Raiders are noble.... or aren't... I mean only to say...
I mean, they are loathsome. They are bloodthirsty murderers. But there are worse fates.
Have you ever seen a man fighting Vitoxin effects? Seen him forced to choose between the agonizing pain his freedom costs him or the numbness of captivity if he just gives in and asks for his drugs? Have you ever seen a slaver "pop a collar", watched a slaves's veins bulge as they fill with toxic chemicals, just to have set an example for would-be insurgents? Are you forgetting how many of our brethren are still alive, but trapped in Amarr chains, succored but shackled, leeched for any profit that can be drained from them before they collapse as ancient, soulless husks?
No, death is not the greater evil here. I would rather a man kill me than enslave me the way the Amarr do. The Blood Raiders may take a man's blood, but the Amarr would take his soul.
Fighting for Matari Freedom.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.10.22 21:31:00 -
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No, the Amarr might be flawed in their beliefs, but the Blood Raiders are disturbing. There's no sane reason to support these terrorists over the Empire. The Empire might work people to death in slavery, but the Blood Raiders actually sustain themselves on their victim's blood.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
868
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Posted - 2015.10.22 21:37:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Byron Triefletcher wrote:...that during the Crimson Harvest, I'm fighting with the Blood Raiders against the Amarr, and that any reward I receive will come straight from the pirates.
Sure, they're some scary crazy psychos, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend... at least for a week.
Who's with me? Matari brethren? ((RP Mode Activated)) I am sorry, brother, but I can not agree with you. The Empire has it's faults, and they have been the sole reason why the Matari, my father's people, are struggling. The Empire deserves to be crushed. However, after what happened with Cale and his cult, I can not stand by and allow these savage beasts rise to anymore power. Yes, the enemy of my enemy may indeed be my friend, but what if that "friend" is a greater evil? Should we not instead side with the lesser of evils to remove the greater? Should we not cast aside our hatred for a breif moment to deal with this threat? I say, "Aye, we should." After these monsters have been dealt with, we will revisit our previous war against the hated Amarr. This is the speech we needed when America gave bin Laden all that money to fight the Russians |
Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.22 21:44:00 -
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Byron Triefletcher wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Byron Triefletcher wrote:...that during the Crimson Harvest, I'm fighting with the Blood Raiders against the Amarr, and that any reward I receive will come straight from the pirates.
Sure, they're some scary crazy psychos, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend... at least for a week.
Who's with me? Matari brethren? ((RP Mode Activated)) I am sorry, brother, but I can not agree with you. The Empire has it's faults, and they have been the sole reason why the Matari, my father's people, are struggling. The Empire deserves to be crushed. However, after what happened with Cale and his cult, I can not stand by and allow these savage beasts rise to anymore power. Yes, the enemy of my enemy may indeed be my friend, but what if that "friend" is a greater evil? Should we not instead side with the lesser of evils to remove the greater? Should we not cast aside our hatred for a breif moment to deal with this threat? I say, "Aye, we should." After these monsters have been dealt with, we will revisit our previous war against the hated Amarr. I don't know of Cale or his cult, but... perhaps you're right... But something tells me no. I mean... are the Raiders truly the greater evil? They are pirates, true, but that term means little to me. I've seen noble men called pirates by those who would discredit them. Not to say the Raiders are noble.... or aren't... I mean only to say... I mean, they are loathsome. They are bloodthirsty murderers. But there are worse fates. Have you ever seen a man fighting Vitoxin effects? Seen him forced to choose between the agonizing pain his freedom costs him or the numbness of captivity if he just gives in and asks for his drugs? Have you ever seen a slaver "pop a collar", watched a slaves's veins bulge as they fill with toxic chemicals, just to have set an example for would-be insurgents? Are you forgetting how many of our brethren are still alive, but trapped in Amarr chains, succored but shackled, leeched for any profit that can be drained from them before they collapse as ancient, soulless husks? No, death is not the greater evil here. I would rather a man kill me than enslave me the way the Amarr do. The Blood Raiders may take a man's blood, but the Amarr would take his soul.
From my understanding, only some holders still perform those barbaric crimes. In no means am I trying to justify the Empire. They need to answer for their arrogance and crimes. You would think they would of learned their lesson at the battle of Vak'Atioth, and learned the meaning of humility.
As for "slavers", members of PIE, namely Kador, have informed me that most slavers work outside Amarrian law and not all Holders are cruel to their slaves. My father, a slave-born Brutor, was unfortunate to have been born under a cruel holder, thus my hatred for most Holders.
And no, I have never seen a man under the effects of Vittoxin. However, when I was incarcerated by Cale and his cult, they did inject me with it and whipped my back raw. They forced me into a drugged induced state, in which I could not self terminate. I was trapped. It took all my will and the last of my strength to strike out against my captors, forcing them to kill me and set me free.
What is not to say that these Blood Raiders won't do the same to every man, woman and child? Only some Holders are cruel, but all Blood Raiders are evil.
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Regnier Feros
Dead Man's Game
968
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Posted - 2015.10.22 21:46:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:K I T T E N S
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.10.22 21:47:00 -
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ITT
I'm the Minotaur
You! Yes, you! You are an illiterate little twit.
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Byron Triefletcher
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
19
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Posted - 2015.10.22 22:00:00 -
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Liked.
I RP and simultaneously mock myself for it.
Fighting for Matari Freedom.
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ReGnYuM
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.22 22:07:00 -
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Honestly, it is this short sighted thinking and backwards logic that really shows how really out of touch the matari have become. |
Byron Triefletcher
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.22 22:22:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, it is this short sighted thinking and backwards logic that really shows how out of touch the matari have become.
Among many disturbing and questionable traditions, the Blood Raiders openly practice slavery. Don't paint the Tribes with so broad a brush. I speak only for myself. I'm no Elder.
And out of touch I may be. Until their recent, most public incursion, I've never had reason to know much more about the Blood Raiders than to keep them the hell off the deck of any ship I'm on. I thought they were opportunistic scavengers. Harvesters. Not farmers.
In any case, there's no way they've done as much harm to my people as the Amarr have. As the Amarr still are. And if its short sighted of me to hope they punch a big enough hole in the Empire's bulwarks to allow the Republic a stronger footing, and use their momentum to my advantage before they're inevitably pushed back to their corner, then I'm happy to be thought of as a bit myopic.
Fighting for Matari Freedom.
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Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
2
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Posted - 2015.10.22 22:33:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, it is this short sighted thinking and backwards logic that really shows how out of touch the matari have become.
Among many disturbing and questionable traditions, the Blood Raiders openly practice slavery.
In my travels, I have only come across a few who believe that the Empire is a greater threat than the Raiders. Most of them were Raiders, but that is beside the point.
In my opinion, the Empire is weak and arrogant, yet not all Amarrians are evil. True evil, is staring us in the face, and I for one will face it head on.
And Mr Triefletcher, if I may, the Raiders target anyome they wish and to have no knowledge of them prior to this incursion is... well shocking to say the least. I have had a few encounters with these monsters and... lets just say I had to do things to survive that I am not too proud of.
Yes, I agree striking down the Empire needs to happen, and with the aide of like minded people, it can happen. However the Raiders are NOT people, nor will I ever consider them to be anything remotely close to human! Consider what you are doing, my friend.
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Byron Triefletcher
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.22 23:01:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Mr Triefletcher, if I may, the Raiders target anyome they wish and to have no knowledge of them prior to this incursion is... well shocking to say the least. I have had a few encounters with these monsters and... lets just say I had to do things to survive that I am not too proud of.
Yes, I agree striking down the Empire needs to happen, and with the aide of like minded people, it can happen. However the Raiders are NOT people, nor will I ever consider them to be anything remotely close to human! Consider what you are doing, my friend. *Shrug* I didn't say I'd never seen the bastards. Just never been closer than 60 meters to one. That's about the range on my Six Kin. They've been on the business end of merc contracts I've run before.
And ya, I've done contract work for monsters before. Maybe not blood suckers like these guys, but bad folk. It's not that I don't care, but first and foremost I'm trying to make a living. Throw the Amarr military into the mix as a contract target, and you don't even have to pay me that much, and I don't care much who's doing the paying.
You've given me some reason to pause, that's for sure, but I still dunno... I mean... I've got podder buddies plugging Raider chips into their goddamned brains, and painting their ships with Raider SKINs. Hell, half the mercs I know rolling out with the Amarr now are doing it because of the rumors they've heard about the Amarr handing out Raider themed SKINs as rewards. You want to talk about twisted backward reasoning, what the hell kind of backward nonsense is that?
Fighting for Matari Freedom.
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Jonny D Buelle
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.22 23:12:00 -
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Byron Triefletcher wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Mr Triefletcher, if I may, the Raiders target anyome they wish and to have no knowledge of them prior to this incursion is... well shocking to say the least. I have had a few encounters with these monsters and... lets just say I had to do things to survive that I am not too proud of.
Yes, I agree striking down the Empire needs to happen, and with the aide of like minded people, it can happen. However the Raiders are NOT people, nor will I ever consider them to be anything remotely close to human! Consider what you are doing, my friend. *Shrug* I didn't say I'd never seen the bastards. Just never been closer than 60 meters to one. That's about the range on my Six Kin. They've been on the business end of merc contracts I've run before. And ya, I've done contract work for monsters before. Maybe not blood suckers like these guys, but bad folk. It's not that I don't care, but first and foremost I'm trying to make a living. Throw the Amarr military into the mix as a contract target, and you don't even have to pay me that much, and I don't care much who's doing the paying. You've given me some reason to pause, that's for sure, but I still dunno... I mean... I've got podder buddies plugging Raider chips into their goddamned brains, and painting their ships with Raider SKINs. Hell, half the mercs I know rolling out with the Amarr now are doing it because of the rumors they've heard about the Amarr handing out Raider themed SKINs as rewards. You want to talk about twisted backward reasoning, what the hell kind of backward nonsense is that?
Fair call, there are very few contracts I turn down. I have a tab to pay at one of Kruul's Pleasure Hubs. Let's just say I did not see those too extra zeros on the price for the twin massage. But the ones I do are for a good reason. The raiders, I will never work for.
Eggheads are a strange lot, and most boosters, if I recall, are illegal in high sec space. I considered becoming a capsuleer at one time, got a bit claustrophobic when I got into a pod.
Also consider this: Wearing the colours of your enemy does not mean you support them, it means you admire their choice of patterns and colours. Now this is true in some cases, however I sadly know a couple dusters who sided with the Raiders. Good people too, now nothing more than a savage beast in a man suit.
I do agree it is backward nonsense, but some people can't be helped. Except with a bullet.
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Byron Triefletcher
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.23 00:16:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:No, the Amarr might be flawed in their beliefs, but the Blood Raiders are disturbing. At least the Raiders don't hide what they truly are. There's an honor in that, ugly or no.
Now, the people that enslave entire civilizations, entire planets, and claim to be doing it for a Higher Good that just so happens to correspond with their profit models? The wolves in priests' clothing? That's disturbing to me.
Atone for your sins, you self righteous bastards, and let our people go, and I'll happily step down and let you stroke each others' holiness til the sun goes black...but until then, we'll be pounding at the gate, and I'm not going to get in the way of anyone else who wants to do the same, vampire or no.
Fighting for Matari Freedom.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
916
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Posted - 2015.10.23 01:25:00 -
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Byron Triefletcher wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, it is this short sighted thinking and backwards logic that really shows how out of touch the matari have become.
Among many disturbing and questionable traditions, the Blood Raiders openly practice slavery. Don't paint the Tribes with so broad a brush. I speak only for myself. I'm no Elder. And out of touch I may be. Until their recent, most public incursion, I've never had reason to know much more about the Blood Raiders than to keep them the hell off the deck of any ship I'm on. I thought they were opportunistic scavengers. Harvesters. Not farmers. In any case, there's no way they've done as much harm to my people as the Amarr have. As the Amarr still are. And if its short sighted of me to hope they punch a big enough hole in the Empire's bulwarks to allow the Republic a stronger footing, and use their momentum to my advantage before they're inevitably pushed back to their corner, then I'm happy to be thought of as a bit myopic.
Your people are as a Parasite is to its host body. Remove the Parasite and it will die. The Amarr Empire is doing your people a favor. Your Republic can barely manage itself and the Elders have done an excellent job of doing nothing to benefit the Districts we were tasked to occupy. Imagine adding hundreds of billions tomorrow... the influx would surely crush institutions and the Eugenics of poverty would drive your people to their ruin. Accept Reclamation and Freedom will continue in a controlled manner to ensure your people do not Destroy themselves.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.10.23 14:59:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:K I T T E N S
Its an older meme, but it checks out.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.10.23 15:01:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Honestly, it is this short sighted thinking and backwards logic that really shows how out of touch the matari have become.
Among many disturbing and questionable traditions, the Blood Raiders openly practice slavery.
I'm not arguing that we shouldn't be fighting them. I agree on that front.
I just hate the Amarr and voice it any chance I get.
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Byron Triefletcher
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
40
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Posted - 2015.10.26 17:04:00 -
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Byron Triefletcher wrote:...that during the Crimson Harvest, I'm fighting with the Blood Raiders against the Amarr, and that any reward I receive will come straight from the pirates.
Sure, they're some scary crazy psychos, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend... at least for a week.
Who's with me? Matari brethren?
Well, this is ironic...
...here's the end of match screen for the fight in which I got my 514'th kill and completed the event.
Fighting for Matari Freedom.
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Satja Askarin
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2015.10.26 17:28:00 -
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Byron Triefletcher wrote:
No, death is not the greater evil here. I would rather a man kill me than enslave me the way the Amarr do. The Blood Raiders may take a man's blood, but the Amarr would take his soul.
That's hardly true at all. The Amarr would save ours souls.
This week I was fortunate enough to be able to watch four souls be saved and truly made Amarr in all but blood. The experience was moving in its was and those present seemed content to have affirmed their faith so that in the eyes of their fellow man they are one with the Amarr.
It didn't matter what they were. Civre, Brutor, even an Ethnic Gallentean. All that matters is what they are now.
Perhaps in ten or fifteen years I might be freed to emulate them and prove my worth both to myself and to Ka. |
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