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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.10.22 06:48:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:All of this is WAY too much work for CCP. Whenever you want to bring a proposal to them you have to think of it in terms of work and how much you can squeeze out if it. It seems like a lot of work, CCP monitoring an arms market and injecting ISK into an already overflowing bathtub. Keep CCP focused on developing and have the buyers battle each other. Literally. Vendor Officer gear for CP and let the raiding nightmare begin. Create an incentive in the DK market that will inspire the PC community to grow and operate more frequently. The benefits: Weapons and Gear directly removed from the game via NPC trade in exchange for CP. Isk redistribution / corp participation - Corp buys arms from community to boost CP. Corp members can vendor their stuff for CP Contributions. People will do this with stuff they don't want. More action possible in Molden Heath with boosted CP gains power struggles more intense, more frequent. Not sure how to change PC in a way this could happen and be fun for ppl but they are not busy enough apparently if they are in pubs all the time. Increased frequency of PC events destroys more ISK / Officer gear in battles. Keeps people in PC and hopefully too busy to be risking nice stuff in pubs. Can be justified lorewise as a weapons procurement for retaliation vs Drifters or whatever and if they do that then they can shut the CP faucet on or off at any time. Drawbacks: Not sure if this would increase P2W scenario but i doubt ppl will spam AUR purchased keys for Officer weapons just for CP. PC situation is awful with lag and ppl don't love to do it because it is a stressful environment sometimes so idea might not take off. So idk, but it was said that we needed more angles to approach the problem. The one that has the best chance for success will require the least amount of work.
+1 for something like this. The only way CCP will be able to encourage a buyback that doesn't act as an ISK faucet is through a currency more valuable than ISK.
Something is killing new player retention.
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steve0809
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2015.10.22 07:21:00 -
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How about trading officer weapons for rank increase ? Or trading Officer weapons for LP (for the applicable faction of course) |
KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.10.22 07:35:00 -
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steve0809 wrote:How about trading officer weapons for rank increase ? Or trading Officer weapons for LP (for the applicable faction of course)
Good idea man.
Much simpler.
Destiny has a similar thing going on with faction rep.
Because beer, that's why.
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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University Ivy League
272
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Posted - 2015.10.22 07:44:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:steve0809 wrote:How about trading officer weapons for rank increase ? Or trading Officer weapons for LP (for the applicable faction of course) Good idea man. Much simpler. Destiny has a similar thing going on with faction rep.
Yep and Destiny used it in a way that we also need to - getting items that were no longer appropriate/needed out of circulation! I'm a big fan of Faction items, too. Less +power and more +specialization.
Something is killing new player retention.
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KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.10.22 10:02:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:steve0809 wrote:How about trading officer weapons for rank increase ? Or trading Officer weapons for LP (for the applicable faction of course) Good idea man. Much simpler. Destiny has a similar thing going on with faction rep. Yep and Destiny used it in a way that we also need to - getting items that were no longer appropriate/needed out of circulation! I'm a big fan of Faction items, too. Less +power and more +specialization.
Rattati might have a problem with it though.
He has said that players will not be able to trade LP faction skins because such things should be earned and I agree.
If LP could be acquired from selling officer weapons then someone could potentially get those skins without ever having fought for the faction.
I don't think they'll go for it
Because beer, that's why.
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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University Ivy League
274
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Posted - 2015.10.22 10:36:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Shaun Iwairo wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:steve0809 wrote:How about trading officer weapons for rank increase ? Or trading Officer weapons for LP (for the applicable faction of course) Good idea man. Much simpler. Destiny has a similar thing going on with faction rep. Yep and Destiny used it in a way that we also need to - getting items that were no longer appropriate/needed out of circulation! I'm a big fan of Faction items, too. Less +power and more +specialization. Rattati might have a problem with it though. He has said that players will not be able to trade LP faction skins because such things should be earned and I agree. If LP could be acquired from selling officer weapons then someone could potentially get those skins without ever having fought for the faction. I don't think they'll go for it
Fair call. You know who doesn't care about loyalty and would totally like getting some OP weapons? PIRATES!
Something is killing new player retention.
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
697
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Posted - 2015.10.22 10:42:00 -
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I would support selling officer gear to the NPC market for 500k-1 million isk each, mmmmm isk! |
KGB Sleep
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Posted - 2015.10.22 10:45:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:
Fair call. You know who doesn't care about loyalty and would totally like getting some OP weapons? PIRATES!
I haven't been following lately but I did catch the bit on Guristas stealing a ship.
THE SCOPE
Because beer, that's why.
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Byron Triefletcher
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.22 17:49:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:All of this is WAY too much work for CCP. Whenever you want to bring a proposal to them you have to think of it in terms of work and how much you can squeeze out if it.
It seems like a lot of work, CCP monitoring an arms market and injecting ISK into an already overflowing bathtub. Nah, not hard. Make it automatic. Create an equation that sets CCP's offering at an amount above market that automatically tapers as the market price moves upward toward an amount that they've predetermined is appropriate.
If you don't like the artificiality of them predetermining the price ceiling, then apply a sine wave function to the offering price so that it periodically dips down below market, in order to evaluate how the market's responding to the current price absent their involvement, and have their price margin logarithmically decrease relative to those changes. OR, wait to implement the whole system until the market balances post-warbarge change, so that you have an appropriate baseline to start with.
After the equation's written and applied to the offering price, the whole thing's hands off, except to the extent that someone WANTS to monitor it.
KGB Sleep wrote:Keep CCP focused on developing and have the buyers battle each other.
Literally.
Vendor Officer gear for CP and let the raiding nightmare begin.
Create an incentive in the DK market that will inspire the PC community to grow and operate more frequently. I love these ideas. And I agree with you that the more attractive PC becomes, the more effective these would be. This is another independent issue: drawing people away from pubs and to PC. I've commented on this elsewhere, recently, and agree there should be a big push for this.
KGB Sleep wrote:So idk, but it was said that we needed more angles to approach the problem. The one that has the best chance for success will require the least amount of work. Ya, ease of implementation's definitely important.
Shaun Iwairo wrote:Fair call. You know who doesn't care about loyalty and would totally like getting some OP weapons? PIRATES! Blood Raider SKIN for smuggling weapons to them against to use against the Amarr, for those who didn't get the SKIN in the Crimson Harvest? Angel SKIN for hawking advanced weapon tech to them? This is good stuff.
Fighting for Matari Freedom.
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