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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.21 11:33:00 -
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No officer grade weapons is understandable, but you should also lower the cost to claim.
It's not even remotely sustainable at 198 components per item.
I suggest somewhere between 75 and 100 components.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Stupid Blueberry
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.21 11:35:00 -
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Unfortunately I don't think this will happen. What you're talking about is the carrot on a string type of thing ccp is looking for to cash out on dust players before this old girl gets put down.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
Orbital Laser S is hot.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.10.21 12:37:00 -
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But... if you do that, then you'll generally have more components to spend.
And if that happens you won't need as much AUR.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.10.21 12:44:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:But... if you do that, then you'll generally have more components to spend.
And if that happens you won't need as much AUR.
The real issue is that it would cause a proliferation of experimental gear.
Experimental gear will be in all the pubs, and people can't compete with it!
We should just remove experimental gear from the laboratory. Lets make it only produce prototype gear.
Hm. But a lot of new players can't run prototype gear. Better make it produce advanced gear instead. Maybe basic just to be safe. Don't want to ruin the game for the newer players!
There we go! Pay to win fixed!
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:15:00 -
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Why can't the OP see that it wasn't supposed to be sustainable.
Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
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CHET CHEWS
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:18:00 -
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It is fine as it is. Now stop bitching or GTFO
"I wuv u senpai cause you so caguay"- {CHET CHEWS TO: CCP RATATI}
Official Owner of Chit Shoes Pet Chews
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Yoda Boss
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:24:00 -
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I make enough wbc to pay for my experimental lab weapons. If you don't spend your wbc you can save it for more important things like damage.
If they decrease cost per weapon they should decrease the amount of wbc we receive per day. It's all about balance.
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CHET CHEWS
XxAMBUSH FTWxX
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Posted - 2015.10.21 16:32:00 -
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Yoda Boss wrote:I make enough wbc to pay for my experimental lab weapons. If you don't spend your wbc you can save it for more important things like damage.
If they decrease cost per weapon they should decrease the amount of wbc we receive per day. It's all about balance.
Exactly Btw hai yoda
"I wuv u senpai cause you so caguay"- {CHET CHEWS TO: CCP RATATI}
Official Owner of Chit Shoes Pet Chews
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Dragonmeballs
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2015.10.21 18:35:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:No officer grade weapons is understandable, but you should also lower the cost to claim.
It's not even remotely sustainable at 198 components per item.
I suggest somewhere between 75 and 100 components.
Nope
Nope
Nope
If experimental was commonplace it wouldn't be experimental but some other thing.
We just are starting to deal with the glut of "rare" Officer weapons.....so
Nope^2
Blueberry!....Make yourself useful and shoot the blurry thing running this way with YES!
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Union118
TH3 STRUGGL3
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Posted - 2015.10.21 18:57:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:No officer grade weapons is understandable, but you should also lower the cost to claim.
It's not even remotely sustainable at 198 components per item.
I suggest somewhere between 75 and 100 components.
150 would work for me.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.21 19:01:00 -
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With lab at lvl 2 and Mobile factory at lvl3, I make more components then I spend claiming, it seems to be okay.
The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y,
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.21 19:33:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:Why can't the OP see that it wasn't supposed to be sustainable.
There's a big difference with not sustainable and not remotely sustainable.
People only see the present (understandable when talking about Dust), but if more WB subsystems will be added, where will you find the components to upgrade WB and claim weapons?
Regressed to blueberry level.
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BARAGAMOS
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.21 19:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:But... if you do that, then you'll generally have more components to spend.
And if that happens you won't need as much AUR. The real issue is that it would cause a proliferation of experimental gear. Experimental gear will be in all the pubs, and people can't compete with it! We should just remove experimental gear from the laboratory. Lets make it only produce prototype gear. Hm. But a lot of new players can't run prototype gear. Better make it produce advanced gear instead. Maybe basic just to be safe. Don't want to ruin the game for the newer players! There we go! Pay to win fixed!
It already is...in most of my pubs this past week experimental/officer is the new proto. Sadly the power creep has finally pushed the game to ridicules levels. Watching guys die a half dozen times in full fits is crazy. So the PC system has to be broken because no one can afford to lose millions of ISK per game without corp help, and I am seeing it EVERY PUB MATCH. It been crazy the amount of proto and experimental/officer gear I am seeing.... |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.21 19:47:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:With lab at lvl 2 and Mobile factory at lvl3, I make more components then I spend claiming, it seems to be okay.
400 components (lv3 MF)
3 weapons x day (lvl 2 EL) *198= 594 components
400-594= -194
You don't make more components.
A lvl 1 EL is sustainable at level 3 MF with a gain of 4 components every day.
If you want to expand production to lvl 4 MF you need 25k (little more) components, assuming you claim every day, you need 6250 days to reach lvl 4.
17 years
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
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Posted - 2015.10.21 20:30:00 -
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So don't claim every day?
Jesus, you have choices in these matters. You don't have to claim.
Given the change to just exp gear, more often than not claiming is going to just get you some useless crap.
Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.21 21:56:00 -
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What's the point a of a weapon generator then?
You just act like we get nukes from EL, it's only exp gear, i still have to see a infantry player who does not die at least 2 times playing between 2-5 matches (except snipers).
It's a FPS not a MMORPG, things get burned, fast.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Shaun Iwairo
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.10.21 22:05:00 -
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Because they were allowed to be taken to the extreme, CCP now have to balance WBs around the fact that there are massive farms of them. If they weren't as farmable as they are now then I could see an argument for lower cost to claim, but unfortunately they are so you've gotta have some limits imposed.
If claiming from WBs turned into an active thing (like a subsystem specific mission or something) then I'd be 100% behind a lower cost to claim.
Something is killing new player retention.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2015.10.21 22:11:00 -
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Shaun Iwairo wrote:Because they were allowed to be taken to the extreme, CCP now have to balance WBs around the fact that there are massive farms of them. If they weren't as farmable as they are now then I could see an argument for lower cost to claim, but unfortunately they are so you've gotta have some limits imposed.
If claiming from WBs turned into an active thing (like a subsystem specific mission or something) then I'd be 100% behind a lower cost to claim.
Locking WB to account instead of character would help.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
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Posted - 2015.10.21 22:21:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:What's the point a of a weapon generator then?
You just act like we get nukes from EL, it's only exp gear, i still have to see a infantry player who does not die at least 2 times playing between 2-5 matches (except snipers).
It's a FPS not a MMORPG, things get burned, fast.
Look, you seem to be missing the point. You have choices to make.
You can either save your components to further upgrade your badge, or spend components on lab stuff, or even buy components with real money.
If you had not over upgraded your lab relative to your daily component creation this wouldn't be an issue. But of course you CHOSE to not do that because you wanted more gear.
Live with the choices you made.
Forum representative for Mr. Hybrid Vayu: The Attorney General.
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
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Posted - 2015.10.21 23:17:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:With lab at lvl 2 and Mobile factory at lvl3, I make more components then I spend claiming, it seems to be okay.
Public School?
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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