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HOLY PERFECTION
LUNAR PR0PHECY
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:35:00 -
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Since hotfix Foxfour CCP buffed a few weapons that did NOT need buffing. Just because they are not as used does ot they are Underpowered. Please post your comments below :
RAIL RIFLES
Rail rifles from what I know are the most unbalanced Rail rifle. They are capable of over 1000 damage at all ranges. Ive been killed 8M away to 63 M away almost instantaneously. They seem to wreak even shields because of the high damage per round. But most of all the new bonuses shread everybody. Now I see stomp squads perching on buildings, with Rail rifles.
Ive never used them lately. So I need someone to suggest a fix to these. Maybe a SLOWER rate of fire. These things are more lethal to my heavy than another hmg.
ASSAULT RIFLES
These weapons very OP. It out DPS's a Combat rifle, and messes up armor almost as well as shield. This is partly due to the base damage of every bullet. The buff I'm my opinion was very stupid. It fires way to fast on any assault, so it needs a nerf.
THE EASIEST WAY TO FIX IT IS TO EITHER TAKE THE BONUS AWAY, OR SEVERLY NERF IT.
GRENADES
Buffing grenades was the worst idea CCP ever had. They were fine, except the core focused. Now instead of people spamming cores, they are spamming everything. My logi is getting Fu**** up, you know between the : ASSAULT RIFLES, RAIL RIFLES, GRENADES, MASS DRIVERS, AND COMBAT RIFLES.
PUT GRENADES BACK
TY FOR READING
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:44:00 -
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Rails and AR were not buffed.
Racial suits were given racial bonuses to make the meta better for aforementioned suits.
You're welcome.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
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Daemonn Adima
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:45:00 -
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Too much qq, not enough pewpew.
RRs and ScRs were king for awhile, now they are just all princes, my PLC is the true king now! |
HOLY PERFECTION
LUNAR PR0PHECY
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:46:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Rails and AR were not buffed.
Racial suits were given racial bonuses to make the meta better for aforementioned suits.
You're welcome.
I know that since I mentioned that in the post. I though that was already obvious.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:47:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
Rail rifles from what I know are the most unbalanced Rail rifle.
Words of f*cking wisdom right here.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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HOLY PERFECTION
LUNAR PR0PHECY
147
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:49:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
Rail rifles from what I know are the most unbalanced Rail rifle.
Words of f*cking wisdom right here.
lol
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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HOLY PERFECTION
LUNAR PR0PHECY
147
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:49:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:
Rail rifles from what I know are the most unbalanced Rail rifle.
Words of f*cking wisdom right here. lol
I'm just going to leave that there just for laughs
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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Koch Rosenzweig
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
820
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Posted - 2015.10.16 18:51:00 -
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RR need a real fix, less fire rate or less dmg vs shields, its too damm op vs everything
Skill Of God 4Life - Director, Diplomat & FC. My best score in PC
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zDemoncake
Horizons' Edge
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:12:00 -
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My ARR needs a buff 
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Grease Spillett
OSG Planetary Operations
994
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:15:00 -
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zDemoncake wrote:My ARR needs a buff
AVAST I SEE WHAT YE DID THERE SHIVER ME TIMBERS!
Somebody call for an exterminator?
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HOLY PERFECTION
LUNAR PR0PHECY
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:15:00 -
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 zDemoncake wrote:My ARR needs a buff
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang
13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:20:00 -
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I think you are having more of a problem with ARRs.
The RR, it was in a nice spot for good time. I tore through enemies with some difficulty, but of course, that was with Proto. I have only ever used proto RRs.
The AR though, it used to be OP against shields, but that was because shields were UP.
Shields are in a better place now, and ARs are too.
Basically, HOLY, suck it up, move on to a new game if you can't handle the patch.
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang
13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:21:00 -
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He was joking.
His ARR should be nerfed. 
EDIT: IT WAS.
Okay, well his ARR does need a slight buff.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:24:00 -
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If you don't want the Assault Rifle to destroy you just don't get too close to the person who is using it. We have very limited range just so you know. |
Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:27:00 -
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I hope people aren't actually taking this seriously, too many naive mercs out there
Reserved
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Ateroith
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:28:00 -
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zDemoncake wrote:My ARR needs a buff
I think ARR' are fine, just change out those crazy looking iron sights...
"...Rule #2 - Never start a fight. Rule #3 - Never lose one either." - Lee Child
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DogeGode Master
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:33:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:If you don't want the Assault Rifle to destroy you just don't get too close to the person who is using it. We have very limited range just so you know.
Yeah don't get too close to the rifle with the second most range in the game ok buddy. 
Totally not an alt.
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
869
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Posted - 2015.10.16 22:09:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Since hotfix Foxfour CCP buffed a few weapons that did NOT need buffing......
Seems a lot like what you wrote to me.
I have already tried to start a discussion on how to get rail rifles out of everyone's hands.
Crying for nerf is not the way.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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HOLY PERFECTION
LUNAR PR0PHECY
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Posted - 2015.10.16 22:45:00 -
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Devadander wrote:HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Since hotfix Foxfour CCP buffed a few weapons that did NOT need buffing...... Seems a lot like what you wrote to me. I have already tried to start a discussion on how to get rail rifles out of everyone's hands. Crying for nerf is not the way.
I'm not crying *******, I swear if I had a Nickle for every time a person said that to me, id be a millionaire.
If I charge, follow me. If I retreat, kill me. If I die, revenge me.
I'm really hard headed
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Vesta Opalus
PROJECT OF KILLERS.
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.10.16 23:10:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Rails and AR were not buffed.
Racial suits were given racial bonuses to make the meta better for aforementioned suits.
You're welcome.
He thinks rail rifles do 1000 damage, which I assume is damage over time. He cant be helped. |
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.10.16 23:14:00 -
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Lol
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
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Posted - 2015.10.16 23:33:00 -
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My only problems with the weapon changes is the kick reduction for the A/RR's applies to hipfire as well, and of course the grenade buff.
Vesta Opalus wrote:Devadander wrote:Rails and AR were not buffed.
Racial suits were given racial bonuses to make the meta better for aforementioned suits.
You're welcome. He thinks rail rifles do 1000 damage, which I assume is damage over time. He cant be helped.
The RR's can deal out ~2,000 base (no modifiers) damage a clipazine.
Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks.
Dust really needs its high sec.
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Vesta Opalus
PROJECT OF KILLERS.
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.10.16 23:53:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:My only problems with the weapon changes is the kick reduction for the A/RR's applies to hipfire as well, and of course the grenade buff. Vesta Opalus wrote:Devadander wrote:Rails and AR were not buffed.
Racial suits were given racial bonuses to make the meta better for aforementioned suits.
You're welcome. He thinks rail rifles do 1000 damage, which I assume is damage over time. He cant be helped. The RR's can deal out ~2,000 base (no modifiers) damage a clipazine.
Not really impressed with the damage per clip number, more concerned with dps and the unmodified proto rail rifle doesnt even break 400 dps without damage mods. |
Shaun Iwairo
DUST University
Ivy League
134
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Posted - 2015.10.17 00:25:00 -
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All things being well and good the weapons in Dust should be a rock/paper/scissors of better damage vs Armor/Shield and Range/DPS.
I think they kinda are at the moment, aren't they?
Something is killing new player retention.
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.17 01:08:00 -
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DogeGode Master wrote:Summa Militum wrote:If you don't want the Assault Rifle to destroy you just don't get too close to the person who is using it. We have very limited range just so you know. Yeah don't get too close to the rifle with the second most range in the game ok buddy.
Are you saying the Assault Rifle has the second most range in the game or are you telling me to stay away from the Rail Rifle because it has the second most range in the game?
If you are telling me to stay away from the Rail Rifle then I can assure you I definitely try to. I tend to immediately drop what I am doing and run for cover when I see a Caldari Assault with a Rail Rifle standing at range from me.
That Rail Rifle jacks me up. |
Refreak 44
DEPT OF CORRUPTION
The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.10.17 01:43:00 -
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Since it was the assaults that were buffed for the AR and RR, I think it should theoretically be fine with the way the weapons work.
The AR is great on the Gal assault, that much is obvious, but if you hit them from a range, they'll have to either run or die since the AR is supposed to have the shortest range. As for variants, I haven't seen much out there except for the occasional breach.
The RR is supposed to be one of the longest ranged rifles and while it does have high damage and a pretty moderate rate of fire, the recoil for it when not ADS is pretty metal even with the bonus and ADS in close range feels strange to say the least.
But the point, I think, is the suits.
Gal assaults are rep based suits and yes, you can armor tank, but it won't be as good as say an Amarr assault or a heavy for that matter.
Cal assaults are shield based suits so they typically don't have as much health as an armor suit. As such, they're meant for long range and if you manage to get close to them, they're pretty easy to take down. Even with projectile weapons.
So, the way I see it, if you fight them out of their specified ranges or with a fitting that can take damage or get the jump on then, they aren't hard to kill. That's my two cents and personal experience at least.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
2
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Posted - 2015.10.17 03:47:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:GRENADES Buffing grenades was the worst idea CCP ever had. They were fine, except the core focused. Now instead of people spamming cores, they are spamming everything. My logi is getting Fu**** up, you know between the : ASSAULT RIFLES, RAIL RIFLES, GRENADES, MASS DRIVERS, AND COMBAT RIFLES.
People may be spamming now the nades, but they are not killing with them en masse.
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