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BARAGAMOS wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

XxBlazikenxX wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner.

This game does not revolve around vehicles.

Sure but that doesn't mean it shouldn't do a good job of represent the 'main battle tank concept' either.

Dust however was what initially got me interested in armoured vehicle operation however as my Dust 514 play time decreased over the months in favour of other games I realised just how stupid the Tanking was in this game when compared to others.

We Railguns that have **** all range and no explosive charge while modern armies have 105-120mm cannon with APFSDS (armour piercing fin stabilised discarding sabot) kinetic penetrators and HEAT (high explosive anti tank) rounds and that isn't even mentioning Cannister Shot (essentially perfect for a redesigned Blaster Turret).

We have what is essentially a .50 Calibre Machinegun trying to masquerade as a cannon and a blood set of short range, non-locking, dumb fire rocket pods. Do you not see how stupid that is?

Have you seen what an actual tank does....you can't simulate that in a game like this. One tank would just murder the opposing side. They have 7 different rounds for the main gun alone meant to "solve" many deferent threat vectors. This is a FPS not a tank sim or a helicopter sim for the ADS fans out there. Vehicles work pretty well now as accents to the game, and in a few games they are overwhelming, but in no way will they ever want them to remotely simulate the real war machines that they are in a dropsuit based FPS.

My experience has been if you are not enjoying the tank experience then pick up a gun and go to back to laying that game as a FPS. It suddenly gets enjoyable again.

Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

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Grease Spillett OSG Planetary Operations 970	Posted - 2015.10.13 21:14:00 - [1] - Quote This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! Somebody call for an exterminator? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0bJCvSFeA
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.13 21:16:00 - [2] - Quote I actually have to agree with you there. This game has a certain quality that just keeps making me come back. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 474	Posted - 2015.10.13 21:17:00 - [3] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! It sure is the best game out there and I love every minute of it win or lose! Never die dust, your too young. jettGaming - Youtube
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.13 22:15:00 - [4] - Quote It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.13 22:26:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner. This game does not revolve around vehicles. Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.14 00:00:00 - [6] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner. This game does not revolve around vehicles. Sure but that doesn't mean it shouldn't do a good job of represent the 'main battle tank concept' either. Dust however was what initially got me interested in armoured vehicle operation however as my Dust 514 play time decreased over the months in favour of other games I realised just how stupid the Tanking was in this game when compared to others. We Railguns that have **** all range and no explosive charge while modern armies have 105-120mm cannon with APFSDS (armour piercing fin stabilised discarding sabot) kinetic penetrators and HEAT (high explosive anti tank) rounds and that isn't even mentioning Cannister Shot (essentially perfect for a redesigned Blaster Turret). We have what is essentially a .50 Calibre Machinegun trying to masquerade as a cannon and a blood set of short range, non-locking, dumb fire rocket pods. Do you not see how stupid that is? Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Lac Nokomis Corrosive Synergy 156	Posted - 2015.10.14 00:03:00 - [7] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner. This game does not revolve around vehicles. Firmly places face into palm
Michael Arck 6	Posted - 2015.10.14 00:20:00 - [8] - Quote Right on! Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Thor Odinson42 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.10.14 00:24:00 - [9] - Quote Miss playing with you Grease, what channels you hang out in? Seriously, port it. Hurry
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.10.14 00:29:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner. This game does not revolve around vehicles. Sure but that doesn't mean it shouldn't do a good job of represent the 'main battle tank concept' either. Dust however was what initially got me interested in armoured vehicle operation however as my Dust 514 play time decreased over the months in favour of other games I realised just how stupid the Tanking was in this game when compared to others. We Railguns that have **** all range and no explosive charge while modern armies have 105-120mm cannon with APFSDS (armour piercing fin stabilised discarding sabot) kinetic penetrators and HEAT (high explosive anti tank) rounds and that isn't even mentioning Cannister Shot (essentially perfect for a redesigned Blaster Turret). We have what is essentially a .50 Calibre Machinegun trying to masquerade as a cannon and a blood set of short range, non-locking, dumb fire rocket pods. Do you not see how stupid that is? I do have to agree that while Spkr4thdead's vision of vehicles is completely ludicrous, there have been many other games featuring powerful vehicles with weapons that emulate reality and yet aren't overpowered. I think part of the issue this game has is lack of variety in weapon systems and almost all of them being instant-hit. For instance, a Minmatar turret would probably have the traits you just mentioned, while balancing them out with a slower-flying projectile. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector

HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 1	Posted - 2015.10.14 00:49:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner. This game does not revolve around vehicles. Sure but that doesn't mean it shouldn't do a good job of represent the 'main battle tank concept' either. Dust however was what initially got me interested in armoured vehicle operation however as my Dust 514 play time decreased over the months in favour of other games I realised just how stupid the Tanking was in this game when compared to others. We Railguns that have **** all range and no explosive charge while modern armies have 105-120mm cannon with APFSDS (armour piercing fin stabilised discarding sabot) kinetic penetrators and HEAT (high explosive anti tank) rounds and that isn't even mentioning Cannister Shot (essentially perfect for a redesigned Blaster Turret). We have what is essentially a .50 Calibre Machinegun trying to masquerade as a cannon and a blood set of short range, non-locking, dumb fire rocket pods. Do you not see how stupid that is? I do have to agree that while Spkr4thdead's vision of vehicles is completely ludicrous, there have been many other games featuring powerful vehicles with weapons that emulate reality and yet aren't overpowered. I think part of the issue this game has is lack of variety in weapon systems and almost all of them being instant-hit. For instance, a Minmatar turret would probably have the traits you just mentioned, while balancing them out with a slower-flying projectile. Like a massive swarm launcher... Next jeeps with cruise missiles and ads stealth bombers.
CHET CHEWS XxAMBUSH FTWxX 192	Posted - 2015.10.14 00:58:00 - [12] - Quote jett it wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! It sure is the best game out there and I love every minute of it win or lose! Never die dust, your too young. Its 3 years old going around 4 years now...^^ "I wuv u senpai cause you so caguay"- {CHET CHEWS TO: CCP RATATI} 420 blaz3 !t G3t r3Kt m8, faking scerb.
GRIM GEAR 535	Posted - 2015.10.14 01:32:00 - [13] - Quote You Sir! are a good man. Cup of tea anyone? I came here to mingle can you hear that jingle that would be me lingle.
Union118 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 759	Posted - 2015.10.14 02:41:00 - [14] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! Your drunk! Now get back to work. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
KGB Sleep 1	Posted - 2015.10.14 02:53:00 - [15] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! I love you too and I hope you have a nice day tomorrow and today. Because beer, that's why.
jett it Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 487	Posted - 2015.10.14 12:17:00 - [16] - Quote CHET CHEWS wrote: jett it wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! It sure is the best game out there and I love every minute of it win or lose! Never die dust, your too young. Its 3 years old going around 4 years now...^^ A 4 year old is pretty young if I dont say so myself. Not even a teenager yet... jettGaming - Youtube
IR Scifi OSG Planetary Operations 220	Posted - 2015.10.14 14:39:00 - [17] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! Man I wish my schedule was better so I could actually you know...play with you and the rest of the guys in the corp. Right now I get a get a few hours on the weekends and that is about it. Of course if the stars do align and I pop on during the week there's only one or two people on. /sadface
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 516	Posted - 2015.10.14 14:43:00 - [18] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! Yet they'll let it die instead of porting or making a new title... #RiP Cya around Grease o7 CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69
XxBlazikenxX Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 3	Posted - 2015.10.14 14:46:00 - [19] - Quote #portdust514 Director of Pure Evil. Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
Harbingerof War G0DS AM0NG MEN 209	Posted - 2015.10.14 15:37:00 - [20] - Quote This game is rare among the FPS out there and has it own flare and lore which is what I love. Just add a little more things and fix the server problems and it will be a Gem of free fps on ps3 Been logi'ing since release. Need to give those needles and self proclaimed king of logi hugs ^-^

Grease Spillett OSG Planetary Operations 986	Posted - 2015.10.14 16:14:00 - [21] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Miss playing with you Grease, what channels you hang out in? A-o-C but i rarely get to play slammed between work, school and baby Somebody call for an exterminator? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0bJCvSFeA
ID G4f Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 61	Posted - 2015.10.14 16:34:00 - [22] - Quote The beauty in this game has always been in how custom ever fit becomes. And how powerful a difference a single mod change can make. each suit's slight difference makes it very personal. I hope to see this game port over & over again to every new system #port514 85mil sp and counting ID's Escrow - trade safe Bernie sanders for president! Finally a president of the people
Boot Booter Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.10.14 16:44:00 - [23] - Quote Deep down we all love dust
BARAGAMOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 322	Posted - 2015.10.14 19:57:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner. This game does not revolve around vehicles. Sure but that doesn't mean it shouldn't do a good job of represent the 'main battle tank concept' either. Dust however was what initially got me interested in armoured vehicle operation however as my Dust 514 play time decreased over the months in favour of other games I realised just how stupid the Tanking was in this game when compared to others. We Railguns that have **** all range and no explosive charge while modern armies have 105-120mm cannon with APFSDS (armour piercing fin stabilised discarding sabot) kinetic penetrators and HEAT (high explosive anti tank) rounds and that isn't even mentioning Cannister Shot (essentially perfect for a redesigned Blaster Turret). We have what is essentially a .50 Calibre Machinegun trying to masquerade as a cannon and a blood set of short range, non-locking, dumb fire rocket pods. Do you not see how stupid that is? Have you seen what an actual tank does....you can't simulate that in a game like this. One tank would just murder the opposing side. They have 7 different rounds for the main gun alone meant to "solve" many deferent threat vectors. This is a FPS not a tank sim or a helicopter sim for the ADS fans out there. Vehicles work pretty well now as accents to the game, and in a few games they are overwhelming, but in no way will they ever want them to remotely simulate the real war machines that they are in a dropsuit based FPS. My experience has been if you are not enjoying the tank experience then pick up a gun and go to back to laying that game as a FPS. It suddenly gets enjoyable again.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.14 20:42:00 - [25] - Quote BARAGAMOS wrote: True Adamance wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: True Adamance wrote: It used to be great. However it lost meaning after some time when there was no hope of them ever simulating vehicles in an interesting manner. This game does not revolve around vehicles. Sure but that doesn't mean it shouldn't do a good job of represent the 'main battle tank concept' either. Dust however was what initially got me interested in armoured vehicle operation however as my Dust 514 play time decreased over the months in favour of other games I realised just how stupid the Tanking was in this game when compared to others. We Railguns that have **** all range and no explosive charge while modern armies have 105-120mm cannon with APFSDS (armour piercing fin stabilised discarding sabot) kinetic penetrators and HEAT (high explosive anti tank) rounds and that isn't even mentioning Cannister Shot (essentially perfect for a redesigned Blaster Turret). We have what is essentially a .50 Calibre Machinegun trying to masquerade as a cannon and a blood set of short range, non-locking, dumb fire rocket pods. Do you not see how stupid that is? Have you seen what an actual tank does....you can't simulate that in a game like this. One tank would just murder the opposing side. They have 7 different rounds for the main gun alone meant to "solve" many deferent threat vectors. This is a FPS not a tank sim or a helicopter sim for the ADS fans out there. Vehicles work pretty well now as accents to the game, and in a few games they are overwhelming, but in no way will they ever want them to remotely simulate the real war machines that they are in a dropsuit based FPS. My experience has been if you are not enjoying the tank experience then pick up a gun and go to back to laying that game as a FPS. It suddenly gets enjoyable again. I suppose some clarification is required when I ask for better simulated armoured vehicles. What I ideally would like to see is HAV defined by several things. A powerful main gun designed primarily for anti-vehicle combat, fair armour/shield capabilities with depth of module selection and well represent shield and armour mechanics, and finally a mobility model that looks and feels suitable for the kind of platform the player is operating. Fire Power, Armour, and Mobility are three central tenets that have been aken into consideration in the design of historical and modern tanks. When it comes to fire power I am of the opinion that no HAV turret in Dust 514 is remotely appropriate to be put on a tank. The Railgun comes closest to being suitable however lacks a tangible sense of power when it is fired due to its large magazine size. It neither looks, nor sounds, to acts in a manner that reflects any degree of power and lacks an area of effect. I'd prefer to see all Dust 514 main tank guns be brought to heel so that their primary focus is in Anti Vehicle Combat with the capacity for mid ranged bombardment and Anti-Infantry Skill Shots. As such Small Turrets would be required to protect the HAV from infantry Anti-Tank players ( a feature that would be great is for a tanker to switch from their main turret to the small turret on the fly like a side arm). In terms of armour, I suppose protection would be a more suitable category, all I want to see is a model where HAV are defined more by Raw HP than Effective HP. As we all know most HAV fits are designed around the Shield or Armour Hardener Module which convey enormous short term resistances against damage. This model is fundamentally flawed because rather than encouraging a vehicle pilot to remain on grind and attempt to grind through incoming AV it instead teaches them that without their hardeners their expensive vehicle is worthless and need to be moved off field. I actually don't mind Breaking Stuffs suggestions that HAV be less durable but also cost a great deal less. Mobility in Dust 514...... oh God where to begin with this oddity.... Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
First Prophet Nos Nothi 4	Posted - 2015.10.14 23:26:00 - [26] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: This has been the best video game experience of my life. Not cause of crazy good graphics or anything like that. Just Teamwork and community. Thanks to all who play!!! Reported for trolling. Sanmatar Kelkoons now recruiting


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