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MONKEY CHEEKS
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.10.12 00:22:00 -
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I don't know what it is. I have almost all my SP (10 million SP- 7 in Tanks) in tanks and I keep getting destroyed in under seconds by jumpy plasma cannon, Lai Dai AV grenade players.
I have advanced Madrugars.
I run Dual ADV hardeners, an standard 120m plate, Advanced Heavy armor repair Neutron Blaster 80J two small standard railguns Fuel ejector Standard Heat Capacity thing-a-ma-jigger and a basic light shield booster
My tanks are getting absolutely wrecked by guying using cheap suits while my tank costs close to 500k isk.
I feel like I wasted my SP and I don't really want to continue getting destroyed in seconds by players who keep jumping all over my tank spamming av grenades. Even with one hardener on, I am no match and with two hardeners on, my window is so small that these guys will catch me with my hardeners off.
I've been tanking for about two months and there is no luck. Please help me make better fit, my skills are not that good.
Also, I feel completely useless in battles when the there are people with those PLC AV name Myo Fib Fits and I'm completely useless in Ground combat because I have only standard medium suits. |
maybe deadcatz
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.10.12 00:31:00 -
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I'm sorry bruh. Dont know anymore. Av is just crazy good. Make sure you turn the hardeners on before you get near people.
Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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MONKEY CHEEKS
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2015.10.12 00:37:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:I'm sorry bruh. Dont know anymore. Av is just crazy good. Make sure you turn the hardeners on before you get near people.
:( this makes me want to quit the game. I'm broke because tanks costs to much. Standard tanks are a sure waste of isk because they go down to even the simplest forms of AV and cost over 200k. Infantry isn't fun because I get stomped every match because I get like 1 kill for ever 10 deaths. |
Genral69 death
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
817
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Posted - 2015.10.12 00:44:00 -
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Personally if your having infantry problems try using a gunlogi , yes it may sound crazy but some hardners and boosters on a gunlogi works great with a large blaster. Here's my fit Advanced gunlogi 1 complex light shield extender 1complex &1 advanced shield hardners 1 complex & 1advanced shield light boosters 1complex & 1 advanced cpu upgrade Advanced large blaster
Be aware this is a anti infantry hav and against a Maddy your screw
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
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MONKEY CHEEKS
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2015.10.12 00:46:00 -
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Genral69 death wrote:Personally if your having infantry problems try using a gunlogi , yes it may sound crazy but some hardners and boosters on a gunlogi works great with a large blaster. Here's my fit Advanced gunlogi 1 complex light shield extender 1complex &1 advanced shield hardners 1 complex & 1advanced shield light boosters 1complex & 1 advanced cpu upgrade Advanced large blaster
Be aware this is a anti infantry hav and against a Maddy your screw
I only have standard shield modules and advanced CPU n PG upgrades. |
Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.10.12 00:53:00 -
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HAVs are in the game for show, not function.
You're not supposed to use them!
Viscous Minotaur
Blood is more vicious than water.
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Sicerly Yaw
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.10.12 01:39:00 -
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packed lai die nades do well over 1.5k damge to armor tanks and even with duel hardeners you'll still take a lot of damage
the plc packed nade combo will take out almost any tank other then a fully fitted gv.0
if you want to live this you need to get out using a flue injector so that you don't take unnecessary damge
std and adv tanks will die fast if not fitted with enough HP + hardners while shiled tanks take less damge from the nades they take more from the plc
Reserved
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Summa Militum
Art.of.Death
1
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Posted - 2015.10.12 02:00:00 -
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MONKEY CHEEKS wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:I'm sorry bruh. Dont know anymore. Av is just crazy good. Make sure you turn the hardeners on before you get near people. :( this makes me want to quit the game. I'm broke because tanks costs to much. Standard tanks are a sure waste of isk because they go down to even the simplest forms of AV and cost over 200k. Infantry isn't fun because I get stomped every match because I get like 1 kill for ever 10 deaths.
Do not quit. Everyone gets slaughtered running infantry when they first start this game. Instead of viewing just kills as an accomplishment you should view both kills and kill assists combined. Do not worry about how many times you die right now. As you skill your merc up you will start to die less and less.
When it comes to tanking be very careful. People like me will drop everything we are doing to hunt you down and blow you up (I use Plasma Cannons and Lai Dai's). Use an Armor Hardener Module to help you survive but make sure you drive off to safety before that module runs out. When I see a tank with a hardener running I will usually wait for the hardener to end before charging at them. |
Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.10.12 02:09:00 -
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MONKEY CHEEKS wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:I'm sorry bruh. Dont know anymore. Av is just crazy good. Make sure you turn the hardeners on before you get near people. :( this makes me want to quit the game. I'm broke because tanks costs to much. Standard tanks are a sure waste of isk because they go down to even the simplest forms of AV and cost over 200k. Infantry isn't fun because I get stomped every match because I get like 1 kill for ever 10 deaths. Squad up... it helps when you have greens watching your back. I hhate being in a squad I do it cas r it helps me survive. |
MONKEY CHEEKS
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
27
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Posted - 2015.10.12 02:49:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:MONKEY CHEEKS wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:I'm sorry bruh. Dont know anymore. Av is just crazy good. Make sure you turn the hardeners on before you get near people. :( this makes me want to quit the game. I'm broke because tanks costs to much. Standard tanks are a sure waste of isk because they go down to even the simplest forms of AV and cost over 200k. Infantry isn't fun because I get stomped every match because I get like 1 kill for ever 10 deaths. Do not quit. Everyone gets slaughtered running infantry when they first start this game. Instead of viewing just kills as an accomplishment you should view both kills and kill assists combined. Do not worry about how many times you die right now. As you skill your merc up you will start to die less and less. When it comes to tanking be very careful. People like me will drop everything we are doing to hunt you down and blow you up (I use Plasma Cannons and Lai Dai's). Use an Armor Hardener Module to help you survive but make sure you drive off to safety before that module runs out. When I see a tank with a hardener running I will usually wait for the hardener to end before charging at them.
Lai Dais are OP |
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MONKEY CHEEKS
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
28
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Posted - 2015.10.13 19:24:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:MONKEY CHEEKS wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:I'm sorry bruh. Dont know anymore. Av is just crazy good. Make sure you turn the hardeners on before you get near people. :( this makes me want to quit the game. I'm broke because tanks costs to much. Standard tanks are a sure waste of isk because they go down to even the simplest forms of AV and cost over 200k. Infantry isn't fun because I get stomped every match because I get like 1 kill for ever 10 deaths. Squad up... it helps when you have greens watching your back. I hhate being in a squad I do it cas r it helps me survive.
Squad can't do everything bro. |
Vulpes Dolosus
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.13 19:29:00 -
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Just keep your distance. Blasters have crazy range (easily 50m) and as soon as someone gets close, pop your nitro and gtfo. Don't get cornered and always have an exit strategy. And if it looks like the enemy is pulling more AV, recall the tank, no shame in that.
Dust is there! I was real!
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.10.13 21:17:00 -
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Message Nocturnal Soul. He'll help you out.
Director of Pure Evil.
Pure Evil. is mass recruiting, apply today and join a war of the Bleeding Sun vs everyone!
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.13 22:03:00 -
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MONKEY CHEEKS wrote:I don't know what it is. I have almost all my SP (10 million SP- 7 in Tanks) in tanks and I keep getting destroyed in under seconds by jumpy plasma cannon, Lai Dai AV grenade players.
I have advanced Madrugars.
I run Dual ADV hardeners, an standard 120m plate, Advanced Heavy armor repair Neutron Blaster 80J two small standard railguns Fuel ejector Standard Heat Capacity thing-a-ma-jigger and a basic light shield booster
My tanks are getting absolutely wrecked by guying using cheap suits while my tank costs close to 500k isk.
I feel like I wasted my SP and I don't really want to continue getting destroyed in seconds by players who keep jumping all over my tank spamming av grenades. Even with one hardener on, I am no match and with two hardeners on, my window is so small that these guys will catch me with my hardeners off.
I've been tanking for about two months and there is no luck. Please help me make better fit, my skills are not that good.
Also, I feel completely useless in battles when the there are people with those PLC AV name Myo Fib Fits and I'm completely useless in Ground combat because I have only standard medium suits.
Your fit is meh. Try this fit. It's my personal favorite because of how long you can last.
Adv Maddy Basic blaster 2 basic heavy reps 1 basic 120 plate 1 basic hardener What ever you want/can fit in the high slots
You get a good 3k+ armor, 200+ reps and you should only use hardener when needed. By when needed, I mean when facing another tank, or under heavy fire.
One thing you need to know is how to counter.
Most infantry run armor AV (lai dais and swarms). Run a gunnlogi.
Plasma cannons and flux are more popular now so becareful too.
Now how to counter other tanks as well.
If enemy is... A blaster Maddy, counter with missile/railgun maddy A blaster gunny, counter with blaster Maddy A railgun Maddy, counter with missile/railgun gunny A railgun gunny, counter with blaster railgun A missile Maddy, counter with missile/railgun gunny A missile gunny, counter with blaster Maddy.
To be an effective tanker, first master staying alive without hardeners. This is why I like the double rep/plate setup. It can withstand infantry for a long time without the need for hardeners. Only use the hardener when needed which is when confronted by a tank or when there's MORE THAN 1 AVer.
When tanking, make it your priority to first get rid of AV and enemy vehicles/installations. They will make tanking much easier for you. I hope this helps.
Extra- best blaster fit imo- adv gunny, 3 adv extenders, 2 hardeners, basic blaster. 4.8k shields and double hardened. Best missile imo - adv gunny adv missile, 2 adv extenders, 2 basic hardeners, 1 adv missile damage Best railgun- adv Maddy, railgun, plate, hardener, 2 reps.
Maybe we can squad sometime and teach you abit.
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maybe deadcatz
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Smart Deploy
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Posted - 2015.10.13 22:06:00 -
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MONKEY CHEEKS wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:I'm sorry bruh. Dont know anymore. Av is just crazy good. Make sure you turn the hardeners on before you get near people. :( this makes me want to quit the game. I'm broke because tanks costs to much. Standard tanks are a sure waste of isk because they go down to even the simplest forms of AV and cost over 200k. Infantry isn't fun because I get stomped every match because I get like 1 kill for ever 10 deaths.
I'm flying pythons now. 200k per ship. Had to sell a lot of crap to fund it.
Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.10.13 22:15:00 -
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I usually move in and/or patrol and keep moving quickly, ready to pop a nitro (maddy or gunni) and test the waters to see what kind of AV is already on the field. Then I move in strategically to help infantry with crowd control near the objective as well as scan the area.
Then I move out and check map view for tank activity. Then move back in again for infantry objective assist.
This works better than cruising around and being spotted in a predictable movement pattern and is also better than rolling in blind and trying to stay in.
Think in terms of traditional tank warfare of moving up, firing, then backing up. Just don't literally do it like that due to the way this game and the maps work. Test the fences for weaknesses so to speak.
Also, Crazy Ivan by backing up as you are turning your turret and checking your six. Otherwise, make wide turns as you turn to look behind you while turning corners. Be ready to fight by backing up or rolling over and past other tanks a lot. Come around for another pass after a tank most likely popped a hardener to engage the first time.
And infantry AV? You get close to infantry then you are rolling into an ambush GÇô ALWAYS! Be ready to hit and retreat unless you've got them going and are ok with getting trashed because you are making a big difference enough to offset the loss.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.13 22:24:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:MONKEY CHEEKS wrote:I don't know what it is. I have almost all my SP (10 million SP- 7 in Tanks) in tanks and I keep getting destroyed in under seconds by jumpy plasma cannon, Lai Dai AV grenade players.
I have advanced Madrugars.
I run Dual ADV hardeners, an standard 120m plate, Advanced Heavy armor repair Neutron Blaster 80J two small standard railguns Fuel ejector Standard Heat Capacity thing-a-ma-jigger and a basic light shield booster
My tanks are getting absolutely wrecked by guying using cheap suits while my tank costs close to 500k isk.
I feel like I wasted my SP and I don't really want to continue getting destroyed in seconds by players who keep jumping all over my tank spamming av grenades. Even with one hardener on, I am no match and with two hardeners on, my window is so small that these guys will catch me with my hardeners off.
I've been tanking for about two months and there is no luck. Please help me make better fit, my skills are not that good.
Also, I feel completely useless in battles when the there are people with those PLC AV name Myo Fib Fits and I'm completely useless in Ground combat because I have only standard medium suits. Your fit is meh. Try this fit. It's my personal favorite because of how long you can last. Adv Maddy Basic blaster 2 basic heavy reps 1 basic 120 plate 1 basic hardener What ever you want/can fit in the high slots You get a good 3k+ armor, 200+ reps and you should only use hardener when needed. By when needed, I mean when facing another tank, or under heavy fire. One thing you need to know is how to counter. Most infantry run armor AV (lai dais and swarms). Run a gunnlogi. Plasma cannons and flux are more popular now so becareful too. Now how to counter other tanks as well. If enemy is... A blaster Maddy, counter with missile/railgun maddy A blaster gunny, counter with blaster Maddy A railgun Maddy, counter with missile/railgun gunny A railgun gunny, counter with blaster railgun A missile Maddy, counter with missile/railgun gunny A missile gunny, counter with blaster Maddy. To be an effective tanker, first master staying alive without hardeners. This is why I like the double rep/plate setup. It can withstand infantry for a long time without the need for hardeners. Only use the hardener when needed which is when confronted by a tank or when there's MORE THAN 1 AVer. When tanking, make it your priority to first get rid of AV and enemy vehicles/installations. They will make tanking much easier for you. I hope this helps. Extra- best blaster fit imo- adv gunny, 3 adv extenders, 2 hardeners, basic blaster. 4.8k shields and double hardened. Best missile imo - adv gunny adv missile, 2 adv extenders, 2 basic hardeners, 1 adv missile damage Best railgun- adv Maddy, railgun, plate, hardener, 2 reps. Maybe we can squad sometime and teach you abit.
I'm always up for squading if anybody actually messages me to do so. I just don't try to hook up with people otherwise because they're always busy or just not responsive otherwise.
Both ADS/DS and tanks!
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
1
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Posted - 2015.10.13 23:39:00 -
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A lot of AV seems very powerful because many of us had to learn to take on proto tanks with skilled pilots solo. When someone uses basic AV on my tank I can tell, if a skilled AV attacks you they will most likely be attacking you just like they where chasing down Duna. Much like when I see a Thales on the field and suicide run into the redline just to melee troll kill him. |
dreth longbow
Bank of DUST 514
143
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Posted - 2015.10.14 03:44:00 -
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Tanks are very week right now and have been for some time. Everyone has a fav fit, but you need to find a style that works for yourself.
I am maxed out in all things in tanks and most times lose 1mil+ per tank when I get exited for a kill. tanks will not bring you many kills or wp right now and will cost you alot to play with.
If you want to keep playing with tanks vs a reset then I would recommend a rail fit you use to take out installations from a distance and work your way into the battle field, then if your team is fighting good switch to your fav fit for killing.
Death before dishonor.
Adapt or Die war is hell
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