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Xi Vi
Ekipa Remontowo Budowlana
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Posted - 2015.10.07 19:09:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-133B7Dla5o
- one Swarm.commando player can deny ADS' pilot gameplay;
- paradox (seen in vid): if ADS hoover/sit still above reds its good for gunner's gameplay; in the same time, ADS voulnerability increase dramatically coz of its stillness;
if ADS starts to maneuver - the ability to counter AVers drops dramatically - beacouse: - ADS pilot must evade incomming damage; therefore he cannot see/pinpoint and approach AVers; - gunner's aim accuracy drops dramatically beacouse if pilot move around, this affect gunner by resetting turret (left-right); gunner's shots seem to fly in random directions;
why this mecshanics is implemented in such a way?
ADS is forced to move away just by 1 AVer - 3 volleys of swarms of 1 guy !! multiply it by 3 guys combo;
Thats just current ridiculus situation.
Redlined rail/missile tanks and forge gunners; |
HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
1
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Posted - 2015.10.07 19:22:00 -
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I skilled into minmatar commando just for anti ads, I think you don't realize how many others have done the same.
Maxed ads pilots can stand there ground vs even the best swarm user and can attack them from outside swarm range.
And three swarmers? How do you think 1 AV guy feels when 3 ads attack.
Swarms are getting nerfed. Ads is getting a buff. Get your skills up and wait for the hotfixfour. |
Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2015.10.07 19:34:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:I skilled into minmatar commando just for anti ads, I think you don't realize how many others have done the same.
Maxed ads pilots can stand there ground vs even the best swarm user and can attack them from outside swarm range.
And three swarmers? How do you think 1 AV guy feels when 3 ads attack.
Swarms are getting nerfed. Ads is getting a buff. Get your skills up and wait for the hotfixfour. Can you show me a video of an ADS killing a swarmer outside of the swarm launchers range of 175m? 150m? 125m?
Caldari
REALLY 514
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Shart Machine
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.10.07 19:58:00 -
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Paradox, really man? How is it a paradox that you can be hit when you are attacking? |
Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
2
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Posted - 2015.10.07 20:22:00 -
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Xi Vi wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-133B7Dla5o
- one Swarm.commando player can deny ADS' pilot gameplay;
- paradox (seen in vid): if ADS hoover/sit still above reds its good for gunner's gameplay; in the same time, ADS voulnerability increase dramatically coz of its stillness;
if ADS starts to maneuver - the ability to counter AVers drops dramatically - beacouse: - ADS pilot must evade incomming damage; therefore he cannot see/pinpoint and approach AVers; - gunner's aim accuracy drops dramatically beacouse if pilot move around, this affect gunner by resetting turret (left-right); gunner's shots seem to fly in random directions;
why this mecshanics is implemented in such a way?
ADS is forced to move away just by 1 AVer - 3 volleys of swarms of 1 guy !! multiply it by 3 guys combo;
Thats just current ridiculus situation.
Redlined rail/missile tanks and forge gunners; I don't think you know what paradox means as what you describe is simple cause & effect. A paradox would be you going back in time and killing your parents thus you never being born but having never been born means you can't go back in time and kill your parents thus you will be born.
Shots don't move in random directions, they move in the direction they were fired + same direction the vehicle is moving at the time they were fired. So if you fire east while the vehicle is traveling north, the shot will move northeast. Of course depending on how fast the vehicle was moving the shot will either overtake or fall behind the vehicle. Also this is just talking about missiles, as rail & blaster shots travel much faster.
Shit man, all I ever get is fucking warnings.
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Jakkal Shoobah
Eastern Star Recon Group
291
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Posted - 2015.10.07 20:24:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Maxed ads pilots can stand there ground vs even the best swarm user and can attack them from outside .
This is why I come to the forums x)
While slow to anger and occasionally indecisive, they are also capable of harnessing enormous resolve when truly tested.
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DEATH THE KlD
Imperfect - Bastards
460
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Posted - 2015.10.07 20:27:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:I skilled into minmatar commando just for anti ads, I think you don't realize how many others have done the same.
Maxed ads pilots can stand there ground vs even the best swarm user and can attack them from outside swarm range.
And three swarmers? How do you think 1 AV guy feels when 3 ads attack.
Swarms are getting nerfed. Ads is getting a buff. Get your skills up and wait for the hotfixfour. Can you show me a video of an ADS killing a swarmer outside of the swarm launchers range of 175m? 150m? 125m? Someone needs to share their weed..I kill people with my ads at 400m
CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
1
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Posted - 2015.10.07 20:28:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:I skilled into minmatar commando just for anti ads, I think you don't realize how many others have done the same.
Maxed ads pilots can stand there ground vs even the best swarm user and can attack them from outside swarm range.
And three swarmers? How do you think 1 AV guy feels when 3 ads attack.
Swarms are getting nerfed. Ads is getting a buff. Get your skills up and wait for the hotfixfour. Can you show me a video of an ADS killing a swarmer outside of the swarm launchers range of 175m? 150m? 125m?
It's happened to me. Been killed by small missiles from outside my range numerous times they just hover and spam. Any half ass pilot can do it. |
maybe deadcatz
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Smart Deploy
968
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Posted - 2015.10.07 22:34:00 -
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Keyboard and mouse. Sweet I heard all that clicking.
First tip. Don't actually try to be a sidegunner in a ads. That crap will wobble and jerk because the pilot usually is doing maneuvers.
Second tip. Use a standard drop ship. The pilot can hold that steady for longer since it doesn't twitch around like a ads.
Third tip. Get mountain dew,dorritoes and some super dank catnip
Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:48:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:I skilled into minmatar commando just for anti ads, I think you don't realize how many others have done the same.
Maxed ads pilots can stand there ground vs even the best swarm user and can attack them from outside swarm range.
And three swarmers? How do you think 1 AV guy feels when 3 ads attack.
Swarms are getting nerfed. Ads is getting a buff. Get your skills up and wait for the hotfixfour. Can you show me a video of an ADS killing a swarmer outside of the swarm launchers range of 175m? 150m? 125m? Someone needs to share their weed..I kill people with my ads at 400m 200m range for missile turret...
Caldari
REALLY 514
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Moochie Cricket
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:49:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:I skilled into minmatar commando just for anti ads, I think you don't realize how many others have done the same.
Maxed ads pilots can stand there ground vs even the best swarm user and can attack them from outside swarm range.
And three swarmers? How do you think 1 AV guy feels when 3 ads attack.
Swarms are getting nerfed. Ads is getting a buff. Get your skills up and wait for the hotfixfour. Can you show me a video of an ADS killing a swarmer outside of the swarm launchers range of 175m? 150m? 125m? It's happened to me. Been killed by small missiles from outside my range numerous times they just hover and spam. Any half ass pilot can do it. There is only a 25m bubble a pilot can sit in to do that, and at that distance infantry rarely render. If they do they are mere pixels at that point.
Caldari
REALLY 514
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