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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:46:00 -
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I have been asked to put together a list of the terms used in Chat and explain what they mean. New players are often very confused by the shorthand we use.
Help me out by posting any that I have not listed yet.
LFS [Looking For Squad] This person wants to be invited to a Fire Team, Squad, or Platoon.
RF2 [Room For 2] This person has two open slots in their Fire Team. Squad, or Platoon and is asking if anyone wants to join.
x [Chat equivalent of raising your hand] This indicates that your are interested, present, or ready. It is an affirmative response. "x" is a correct response to RF3 if you are interested in joining the squad. "x" is also used to indicate that you are back in your Merc quarters if your squad has been asked to back out of a match, or if you had to reboot your PS3 and are indicating that you are back online so your squad can invite you again.
o/ [Person waving] Friendly acknowledgement of the people in a chat channel, or with a name to wave to a specific person.
o7 [Person saluting] Respectful acknowledgement of another person in the channel.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:46:00 -
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Maybe I should include a list of other shorthand as well, such as DPS and HP...
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:47:00 -
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And I will claim one more post just in case this gets long.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.07 14:37:00 -
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These explanations are getting long. Maybe I should reserve one more post...
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.10.07 20:41:00 -
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What about shorthand for suits/races and weapons? AmAss, Minja, BAR etc.
Purifier. First Class.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.10.09 08:53:00 -
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Glossary*.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.09 13:01:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Glossary*.
Edited.
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2015.10.09 15:21:00 -
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I'd suggest fitting shorthands. Things can be cryptic when somebody says "I always fit my Calass with at least 4 CSE and double regs" or "I love my dual-kincat Minass". Placos are also likely rather seldomly known, just like the difference between a BrAR and a BAR or a ScR and a ScP. |
CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
664
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Posted - 2015.10.10 03:36:00 -
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I've seen:
brb [be right back] or [bathroom break]: Quick way to say, don't start the squad match without me, or, continue the chat without me, and I'll catch up in a few minutes.
kk [Okay]: The kid-texter's way of saying, I'll go along with that, and I'm very enthusiastic about doing so.
OB [Orbital Barrage]: This is causing some confusion, because it's supposed to refer to the fire support barrage that can only be requested from a EVE player you communicate with in FW matches. But it is repeatedly mixed up with the "warbarge strike" we can call down when we earn enough points in the Public Contract matches.
EHP [EFFECTIVE Hit Points]: I think this is supposed to be the TOTAL of your dropsuit's shield HP + armour HP, added together.
DS [Dropship]: When player use this, they USUALLY mean the Transport Dropship. This is the dropship that does NOT have a gun in the nose (or chin). It carries a maximum of six passengers, instead of the max four that the ADS (Assault Dropship) can carry.
Ringer [Team Ringer Player]: This is used in PC matches. When a team plays a PC match, they never know how dangerous the opposing team might be, or what sort of proto weapons they might bring to try to win this match at all costs. If our team's leader wants to maximize her chances of winning, she might "hire" a freelance player (someone who is very experienced or has high specialty skills, who may not be part of her corp and may not even care about the corp's ideas) to fight on her team and improve their chances of winning the PC match. The freelance player is called "A Ringer".
Scammer [Scam Artist]: EVE Online has players who infiltrate your corp to steel tons of money from the treasury. Dust has a small version of this, where players use the Chat channels to trick ISK out of you, or to make you agree to trade items from your gear collection, and run off without trading you what they owe you. We call them Scammers in this game. As Dust's trading menus get more and more developed, scammers will be the biggest part of the PvE environment.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.10 14:16:00 -
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Some good stuff there CELESTA, which I will add in when I get some time.
CELESTA AUNGM wrote:
EHP [EFFECTIVE Hit Points]: I think this is supposed to be the TOTAL of your dropsuit's shield HP + armour HP, added together.
EHP also tries to calculate in things like resistances, and rep over the course of a battle. All the factors which effect how much total damage has to be expended to kill you.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.10.11 08:34:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:
EHP also tries to calculate in things like resistances, and rep over the course of a battle. All the factors which effect how much total damage has to be expended to kill you.
This is rarely done, honestly.
In DUST the average of your resistances is basically 0. Very few people bother trying to factor in regen, although I suppose more people might do that post-shield buff.
The most common usage of 'EHP' is as total raw HP.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2015.10.11 10:10:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:
EHP also tries to calculate in things like resistances, and rep over the course of a battle. All the factors which effect how much total damage has to be expended to kill you.
This is rarely done, honestly. In DUST the average of your resistances is basically 0. Very few people bother trying to factor in regen, although I suppose more people might do that post-shield buff. The most common usage of 'EHP' is as total raw HP. Correct for infantry stats, however this is very different when discussing vehicles. And a fairly important distinction to learn for pilots that didn't play Eve online before starting their career in Dust. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.10.11 12:03:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:
EHP also tries to calculate in things like resistances, and rep over the course of a battle. All the factors which effect how much total damage has to be expended to kill you.
This is rarely done, honestly. In DUST the average of your resistances is basically 0. Very few people bother trying to factor in regen, although I suppose more people might do that post-shield buff. The most common usage of 'EHP' is as total raw HP. Correct for infantry stats, however this is very different when discussing vehicles. And a fairly important distinction to learn for pilots that didn't play Eve online before starting their career in Dust.
That's a fair point, actually.
I would, however, venture that infantry is by far more common to a sufficient extent that it is still correct to state that the most common usage is indeed just total raw HP.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
681
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Posted - 2015.10.18 04:49:00 -
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 Also saw:
gg: [good game] or [good going] or [great game!]: Either way we want to argue it, this term means positive praise from the players who fought with you in that last match.
Meat-shield [nearby Heavy player as your shield]: The game seems to be overrun with more and more loner-style new players, so this term is starting to get extinct (sadlyGǪ). But it's a tactic where a fellow player (usually a Sentinel or Commando merc) lets you intuitively duck behind her when under enemy fire, because her suit's higher ehp allows her to act as a human shield for a few seconds. Still one of the BEST illustrations of true team-spirit this game!
Fattie: [Sentinel-suit player]: The term used to be used alot by vet players,GǪ but the new players these days grab a Sentinel suit for their own protection more than a chance to shield others----when you say "Fattie" to them, they think you're making an inuslt about the Sentinel's plus-size.  !!
NPC [Non-Player Corporation]: These are the Dev-controlled "corporations" that we players can't own or influence. They are Lore-driven, and about the only thing you can voluntarily do with an NPC is resell the gear you salvage from your matches. When you first create your merc character, the first agency name you're given by default, is actually an NPC.
"Sell" [Sell to a Player] : Dust is opening up its trading component much more, so some terms are becoming very specific. Selling is when you give and item to another Dust player for ISK in return.
"Trade" [Swap with a Player]: When you give an item to another player to get an ITEM in return. Not money.
"Re-sell" [Resale to NPCs]: When you sell your item back to the NPCs (or to a Resale Agent like Jara Kumora) for ISK. You're NOT selling to another human player.
Eve Capsuleers (pilots) in our Chat channels can add to the confusion too. But they have a really disciplined set of terms they use in combat. Some of those terms I see still pop up in conversation, and apply to our Dust fights:
"neut" [Neutral Asset]: Any Nulls, CRUs. Installations, etc that you find on the map, but haven't been hacked yet. Technically, they are "yellow" and un-activated.
NDS [NEUT--DON'T--SHOOT !! ] : The slogan means, it's always strategically better to hack a yellow Neutral Installation, or leave it undamaged for fellow players who could really use it later, than to blow it up for safeguards or for WPs.
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
685
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Posted - 2015.10.20 13:43:00 -
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Saw three more last night between in a chat between a Capsuleer and two mercs:
LS [Low Sec Space] : When you have a Capsuleer trying to explain why she stopped dropping orbital barrages for your team at the moment in the match when your needed fire support the most, (WTF, Capsuleer?), she might mention that if the District you're fighting on is in "Low Security Space", her battleship may have gotten attacked and blown up by a a roving gang of bandits. Apparently in EVE-Online, LS space is a risky part of space to loiter in, even if you're trying to help some Dust players.
HS [HIgh Sec Space] : The Capsuleers' chat abbreviation for "High Security Space". This space is safer for pilots to loiter in, because it's patrolled and policed by the DeD. DeD?? Who??
DeD [Directive Enforcement Department] : Without going into lots of EVE detail (we ain't EVE... we are DUST!) this is Eve-Online's version of the rule-enforcer and player punisher system we have in FW matches. A Dust merc may say in the chat, "I took my anger out on a fellow player with my gun in FW, and I got Kicked from the match" A Capsuleer may say in our chat, "I did the same thing last week to this mining-player I hate, and I got DeD."
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
712
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Posted - 2015.11.10 18:16:00 -
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Trading in Dust is going to become PROLIFIC. CCP always envisioned that players in this New Eden game would retire from the battleground, and build our wealth purely through commerce and player-transactions (even though we are Console-players, and are world-renowned as shooters-not-socializers in our games). And the Chat Channels are starting to show it....FAST.
So, two more terms were being thrown around last week:
wtb [Want to Buy] ; Sometimes written as "LTB" (LOOKING to buy), but I suspect it means the same thing. A Dust Player is hungry for a particular hard-to-get piece of gear, and is asking if anyone out there has this item and wants to sell it.
wts [Want to Sell] : A Dust player has a small haul of salvaged item, and she figures it must be worth more than reselling it back to the NPCs. So she's advertizing on the Chat Channel that she has (or can get her hands on) this cool piece of gear. "Anyone want to buy?---let's talk money".
NOTICE, in both explanations I wrote DUST-PLAYER! It's got to be a Dust player you're about to sell or buy with.
Don't let anyone fool you into trying to sell or buy something from an EVE-player. Eve players are perfectly allowed to be on the same Dust Chat Channels as us, but they CAN'T directly trade any stuff with a Dust player.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.10 19:53:00 -
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Good suggestion CELESTA AUNGM. There is a lot of trade going on in channels these days.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
745
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Posted - 2015.12.04 15:56:00 -
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Here's one that was so obvious, it had me stumped, and even had two Eve Online pilots stumped when they tried to keep up with the conversation on the Chat Channel:
dced: Wha---? What the heck does that mean? "I was up to 3500 wp in the FW unitl I got dced....". "Sorry about that. Dced!"
To be "dced" means you were "Disconnected" from the game by the Server.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.12.04 16:05:00 -
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CELESTA AUNGM wrote:Here's one that was so obvious, it had me stumped, and even had two Eve Online pilots stumped when they tried to keep up with the conversation on the Chat Channel: dced: Wha---? What the heck does that mean? "I was up to 3500 wp in the FW unitl I got dced....". "Sorry about that. Dced!" To be "dced" means you were "Disconnected" from the game by the Server.
Diconnected... DC'ed... dced
By the time it becomes dced you have to say it out loud to realize what it means. That is what happens when the texting generation drops the capitalization and the apostrophe.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.12.04 16:10:00 -
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Thanks Kaze for all the likes...
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University
Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2015.12.04 16:15:00 -
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Great guide Fox!
Here's my contribution:
AFK [away from keyboard]: This is a term that is a borrowed term from computer gaming tell people that you are no longer at the controls. While AFC [away from controller] may be a correct technical term, AFK is the widely accepted abbreviation used in Dust.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.12.04 16:20:00 -
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Can't believe I missed AFK. Good catch. Thanks.
Original post updated.
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.12.08 18:18:00 -
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Been poking around and found this old guide: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=43478
Not sure if you want to include some of this; some of the terms you already have in here too. o7
Fox Gaden wrote:Thanks Kaze for all the likes...
No problem man. You've done a ton of great work with guides and explanations on these forums. You deserve 'em. 
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Radiant Pancake3
Celestial Phoenixes
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Posted - 2016.01.24 01:04:00 -
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You could add in weapon abbrevations...
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