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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.10.07 00:24:00 -
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I say this because you allow que's and ready made squads kill public contracts .
These same people act like pubs are PC matches , coordinating against random players and you do nothing about it .
I just cant understand how you allow this CCP .?. people come to the forum and complain about this and you do nothing , coordinated players against random players sounds balanced to you CCP ???
I just cant understand how these same people come to the forums and pound their chests talking like this game is so competitive when the main competition is afraid to play each other and CCP knows this , that's the only reason that I could come up with for a system that places random players who for the most part have the amount of skill points of a starter or no more then someone who has played the game for a year or less , going against coordinated squads with skill points nearing a hundred for each individual in that particular squad and you expect their numbers to grow .?. or for the player base to become stable and not for it to dwindle ???
Oh , I forgot ... it's the PS3's fault , nothing to do with the fact that this game is three years old and the player base is in a worst state then before . It's an old system and it's a F2P game but I can safely say that the numbers never reflected nowhere near the amount of people that actually owned the system it's self , could be that you always had this problem and no one ever said anything about it before or it could be that , when it was mentioned before the community took a collective dump on the OP who mentioned the situation because if anybody knows anything about this community , they love their crutches and will fight anyone tooth and nail to keep or create them .
Bring back the warbarge , allow enough time for EACH TEAM OF RANDOM PLAYERS to create squads if they choose , to have both teams mixed of random players is far more balanced then the current system and allowing squad building in that game setting leaves both teams on an even footing , it helps the newer players ( if we even have any that stay around long enough ) learn about the game from players who play the game already , might help promote the game and help those who are starting out , to enjoy it more and help it to seem like less of a grind because they would become more productive from not having to go game after game being stomped , which drives people away .
How can you not understand this .?. everyone is not a glutton for punishment and these same people kill the game because YOU CCP allow them to , they don't care and for the most part , these players are total garbage , they suck in a PC setting so they take their inconsistent play out on lesser and random players , what other reasons could their be for these people that claim to be competitive but yet say nothing about how these actions or the system at hand is driving away players and helping to make this game stale .
Help yourself by helping others and in turn , help the game to grow .
People talk about how you are silent CCP and how that misleads your player base but I say , your lack of problem solving and addressing current issues in-game is the thing that's truly killing the game , it's not getting better , a lot of issues that have plagued this game for years , still do and nothing is being done about them .
I say what I say about them because take for instance the changes that are about to drop with the hotfix , increasing the weak spot on HAV's , 100 percent damage of more weapons that will eventually effect tankers more then anyone else , reduction of swarm range and increased lock on time . Tanking will soon become a thing of the past because they are more fragile now more then ever and it's by far the most expensive role in the game but I guess none of that matters .
I'm for changing or actually creating a matchmaking system that will benefit more then the higher skilled players and make help retain or draw in newer players because what you have right now , isn't working at all .
You have people that monitor your forums , you know what's being said and has been said , the CPM isn't helping you because they have their own agendas of trying to make their mark on the game instead of trying to fix issues .
Do something about this CCP , it's killing your game and it just seems like you don't care .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 00:30:00 -
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If I didn't care I wouldn't say what I do , why don't you keep your two cents to yourself and add something productive or nothing at all .
You trolls make me sick .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 00:32:00 -
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You people are so stupid , telling people to quit , like that's helping this game to become better .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 00:35:00 -
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Most of what you speak of was entirely from the complaining of the community but they say nothing about matchmaking or the lack there of .
I understand what your saying but the next hotfix is doing nothing about helping matchmaking or balancing out the selection system .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:15:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:I personally run with a lot of people from the big name corps. These squads are not as coordinated as you think. It's usually just people talking with friends and they happen to be playing Dust.
You can't help me to believe that .
I play this game everyday and I go against stomp squads and OFC squads as well and the fact that they play together , have knowledge about strengths and weaknesses as well as what each other specialize in is far more of an advantage then random players and there is nothing that you or anyone else can say to rationalize that fact .
Doing the same is not the answer because the system is broken .
It's funny ( but seriously not ) that people can even defend this with the state that the game is in .
If these same people cared about the game they would make matchmaking a topic of discussion because it's one of the reasons that this game is and has been so stagnant for so long and it's something that CCP could / should do something about , unlike some of the other issues that they claim they have no control over or something that those who play the game should get for themselves like a SSD .
You can't even begin to rationalize how it's not what it seems because that's truly bullocks .
It's easy to say it doesn't have that great of an impact while your in the inner circle of those who perpetrate this type of behavior but if you had to deal with this day in and out , more then likely like others who left the game , the end result would prove the same .
It's time to break the crutches so that the game can grow and attract more then it has at any point in time , why make all these " changes and improvements " if it's only for those who are already here .?. if it's ported with the same system that's in place , it really doesn't matter because your going to run into the same results .
A lot of other developers of other games know how important it is to make your product attractive to different kinds of consumers , hence CCP dipping into the console market , now they need to create a matchmaking system that allows players to enjoy what their doing and reduce the grind which will help these same players grow as well as their desire to invest in what CCP is trying to do , many will and have left because of a lack of matchmaking and the fact that some in the community are just trying to sabotage the game because their still mad that it wasn't make for the PC as well as the fact that they just simply don't care .
CCP needs to change that perception and begin to do what others have done and create / fix the matchmaking of this game because the lack there of is killing it .
The fact that you can say that players with familiarity , high skill points and mics have no advantage over random players is suspect .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:17:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Simple.
This happens with every game imbalance. Every time. Without fail.
I wouldn't be surprised if the track the quitting and afking as an indication of OP performance.
What you demand is action.
Ccp has responded with hotfix four.
Then they will check the results of that and respond again.
Back in the day they didnt tweak. They swung the nerfbat. Entire roles were destroyed overnight. Weapons were rendered unusable overnight.
Most of us prefer the 'wait and see' approach when compared to the horrors of the bat.
Its painful, No question, and we all feel it. BS that the Hotfix will "fix" anything. After 4 months this is all the news. A Lame, boring, yet pathetic Hotfix. This should of been released months ago but Noooo CCP likes to release stuff at the end = pisses off the community even more. I'm betting on what will be broken once this Hotfix arrives. I expect a full HP bull to all tanks. Making Mass Driver and Meele damage to AV = wtf the meele is a joke. What idiot thought it was a perfect idea to damage tanks with meele.
That HAV QQ will be justified and plenty , those changes just didn't make any sense and I just can't believe that none of the CPM didn't speak up against such changes .
The HAV hate is real .
Edit : I don't even tank but it's just written on the wall , I specialize in AV and even I know this is wrong , it really wont be worth it to run HAV's at all and I just can't wait to see it unfold .
I'm not even going to say I told you so because steps backwards are always wasted and sad .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:25:00 -
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So you must didn't read where I said , allow time with the warbarge for those who choose to create squads from the random players in-game , that's far more balanced then what's in place at the moment and it kills meta locking .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:26:00 -
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Are you people really trying to say that coordinated squads don't have an advantage over random players ???
With a straight face ???
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:
It's time to break the crutches so that the game can grow and attract more then it has at any point in time , why make all these " changes and improvements " if it's only for those who are already here .?. if it's ported with the same system that's in place , it really doesn't matter because your going to run into the same results .
So your basic premise is that forming squads in a game that essentially places players into teams with the express intent to achieve a specific set of goals is 'a crutch'? Then at the same time you infer that those who are in these squads by their very nature 'do not care about the game' and that this is actually a problem and one that is totally unique to Dust 514.
You think they do by what .?. because they talk about they do ???
If these people were so competitive , they would ban together for a fix to the matchmaking problem because what's going on now isn't and hasn't worked .
I know I'm not wrong because people make post about this , people that I know that have left , left because of this and the performance of the game but they left because of a lack of matchmaking .
It's easy for players with 60 million in SP's and up to say what and how those with lesser amounts are effected / not effected by the system that's in place ( which is pretty much what you and a few others are saying ) but the numbers aren't growing and more people are leaving also , people are finally talking about this so there must be something to it .
Oh I forgot it's the PS3's fault or now these guys just aren't that serious and they do it for comradery .
Edit : You still have PC's and FW but to keep this type of behavior in pub matches is just counterproductive .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:The insane and most idiotic part of this is that FOUR people in a match of 32 are able to do so much.
Yet people are still so brain dead that they blame those FOUR for actually playing the game the way it was intended. Don't get mad at all the people not doing anything. Don't get mad at the five tanks on your side that are somehow unable to deal with that single blaster tank that is wrecking shop. Don't get mad at the six snipers on your side that are somehow unable see those eight dudes camping on top of the pipes.
Yes, get mad at the four who were unaware that killing people in a FPS was bad.
I have played in matches where two squads was the opposing team and my team was total random players . Others have brought this up only to get crapped on by the community that doesn't want this system to change .
They asked , how did that happen .?. well if I had a capture card then you would have seen it but the next time this happens , I will take a pic on my phone and link it for all of you to see because it does happen where you get squads , not a squad to que on one team .
I guess if you people could see that then you might change your tune or maybe not .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:54:00 -
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Worthless Target wrote:So here's the thing about DUST 514.
If you're looking for a fun and fair match, you've come to the wrong game. When an individual says they want a balanced match, their only lying to sound less like total tool bag. No one plays Dust for a fair game, they come here to pad stats that mean nothing so they can wave their E-peens every which way declaring "Hay look at me, my KDr is so good because I got skills!" By skill, I mean skill points, and gear that is much better then yours.
You know how some free games are pay to win? Well this game is wait to win. Once you have the right amount of skill POINTS, you're good to go, no one can stop you, except for maybe the other guys who waited just as long as you. Well, that's what the leave button is for. Besides, this game isn't built for balanced matches, it's been hand crafted just for the vet players to pad their stats all the way to their heart's content. After all, why ells would it stack the proto squads on one team and leave all the low levels on the other? Why ells would this problem persist since the start with no end, because it's not a problem, everything is working as intended.
In this game, you have two choices. You could wait to get proto, and get nothing but victories devoid of all value. Or most likely you will be the cannon fodder, nothing more then sacks of meat to feed the vets as they gorge their DKrs. All you can do is accept that you are only padding for that one stat. Since they take so much pride in their slaughters, take pride in your deaths. Is winning a match any different from losing one? So far I've never seen the difference in either outcome, you define what wining is to you. So just sit down already, and play the game how it was designed to be played; Stomp or be stomped.
welcome to New Eden.
So how's that doing / done for the growth and benefit of the game ?
People were complaining to Bungie about this same thing in Destiny and THEY changed it because they listen to what their community says and not just a selected few .
Other devs do the same things when such is brought up , it's like the modded controller issue ... they just don't do anything about anything besides tell you that there's nothing that they can do about it or just keep silent while other games and devs simply don't have the same problem because once they recognize it , they actually do something about it .
This game hasn't grown because of that same complacency .
I get on CCP about performance issues but I jump to their defense about other problems , all the while thinking that they will do better , well you know what .?. it's time for them to do better on this subject .
I always say that if this project did fail it was because of CCP and their complacency and that also goes with listening to a selected few and not reviewing most suggestions in this scenario , only a few select get a blue or red tag , only a selected few who don't even play the game but play the forum game , have their ideals entertained .
It's that small click that's part of the problem but they always seem to make it to acquire positions in the CPM , the same rotation and it's not even hidden .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:36:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Most of those stompers have paid their dues. Not time in match but real cash. If youve been here for years like alot of us youve spent some cash. Why would CCP snub already paying customers to net a few potential ones. This game is set up to be a vet. Put your time in and quit crying. Weve all been there.
Again , how is that / has that worked for the growth of the game ?
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:48:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
THANK YOU!
Can everyone get it through their heads that deploying into Pubs with a group of friends isn't somehow evil just because you don't do the same thing?
I virtually NEVER play this game without a full squad. I want people to talk to and coordinate with when I play.
Are you trying to say we're all bad people unless we only queue solo?
I said you have FW and PC's to conduct that action in but it seems like your backing that fact that this behavior is driving away potential consumers with treating pub matches like PC matches .
How do you people condone this and act like you speak for the benefit of the game ???
This is driving away growth that this game so desperately needs .
You don't see the flaws in these actions ???
Create a system of random players with the warbarge as the drop for creating squads out of the existing player pool for that particular game , you will still have squads and coms and such but just not with the people that your use to playing with .
You might help others understand the game better , you might help retain players , players might enjoy the game more , they just might understand the inner working of the game better and join corporations instead of playing in the starter corp that's assigned , it might just help this game seem like less of a grind because they will feel more interactive and want to participate more because the matches would become more balanced so they might just be willing to invest the time and effort to back what CCP is trying to accomplish .
Getting stomped match after match is not inspiring and drives away potential consumers .
People complain about NPE , well this is that NPE that this game so desperately needs , it will help newer and lesser players feel like their more apart of what's happening so you just might see players AFKing and leaving matches less .
I guess to those who are defending the system at hand , that's just too much to ask for or desire .
You know , relevance and production from growth .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:50:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:I have to agree with you OP. What CCP does to their newest players is needless, senseless, foolish and self-destructive. We can have a hardcore game and a decent NPE, the two are not mutually exclusive. If we could do a word search on these forums i wonder how many hits we'd get for 'NPE'.
This is why the hardware/platform argument is almost pointless - if the developer is unwilling to fix the codebase, gameplay or NPE what's the point? New Platform will change none of that and sadly will not materially alter the gameplay experience of new players.
You should have been CPM .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.07 17:44:00 -
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Please because it's obvious that some just don't get it .
Thank you for being observant .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.10.08 02:10:00 -
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Do you have ANY comprehension skills .?. if so then I suggest that you use them .
Edit : It's easy to be tough typing on a keyboard bub .
I just don't like it when people try to place words in my mouth and that's what your trying to do .
I've stated my case in point and I'm not going to even justify your comment .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
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Posted - 2015.10.08 02:14:00 -
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No one here is suggesting it so why can't you people stop misquoting others .
You don't have to lie to get your point across .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.10.10 19:51:00 -
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I'm officially done with even trying to play this game .
Just left a match that was que'd by the opposition and my team was vastly short in numbers , was redlined within the first 3 mins of the game by PRO players with ADS's and Gunnlogi GK.O's , I killed a few and forged the HAV but it just didn't make sense to even start the game shorthanded and on top of that these fools running straight PRO when they already knew they had the advantage .
Yes I enjoyed killing the few I did before I just quit and I quit because that crap just didn't make too much sense to begin with .
Why do you keep allowing games to start with uneven numbers ?
Why won't you just create a matchmaking system ?
Why do you allow these types to continue to kill the already low player base that you have ?
How do you expect this game to grow under these conditions ?
What are the CPM doing to address this ? Edit : Oh yeah I forgot , they would like to punish people for leaving , have fun with that one .
Don't have an answer , well I do but no one is listening so I'm done , I don't have to keep dealing with this and I'm following the rest that have left before me , don't fix this by Christmas and I will know that you CCP just don't care , neither you or your precious CPM .
Just for the record , I just died two time but it was two too many under such circumstances .
This game is so broken and you keep allowing this and listening to the same that are destroying it and like others , I've had enough .
You people that complain about snipers in the redline have zero issues crossing that same redline when redlining the opposition so I just believe that you can't have it both ways in that regard .
This game is becoming horrible and now I see why no one in the YouTube community reviews it or even covers it besides those who kill the game ( except DAAA BEAST ) .
You get no press , no coverage and player retention is none , in-fact .. your loosing numbers , don't fix matchmaking and you can add one more to that long list of those who left .
I thought Massive stopped making vids but I see he still does , he use to cover this game but not anymore and I wonder why .?. I was thinking about writing him and asking him , maybe I will post what he says if I do .
I'm just not even concerned with that anymore , I just want the game to be fixed and balanced but it just seems like that will not happen and no , I'm giving whom so ever asks ... nothing .
Not a rant , just stating facts . You really need to start paying attention to detail . Current streak of log on gone .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2015.10.10 19:53:00 -
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Oh yeah , say what you want ... whoever that wants , most of you could truly care less about the game to begin with besides killing it so have fun with that and enjoy .
Pretty soon , you'll be all that's left anyway .
Enjoy .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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