DUST Search - Is it possible in the game engine : New Injector Role

Knox Firmus wrote:

There is so much lore that will argue this is not plausible.

I don't think you lot realize what the needle does, it doesn't bring you back to life, it floods your system with nanites that will keep your body running for just a little long, but it damages your brain and in addition to the radiation this body received just from spawning in you won't live long after the match is over (if this body survives till the end).

a needle is not putting your brain back in your body.
a needle is not bringing you back to life.
a terminated clone immediately begins to "decay"
a clone's neural implant fries the brain when the clone dies, making the body useless.
a still functioning clone has encryption to protect themselves from being hacked (and if they didn't, there'd be no point to fighting, just hack the other team from orbit.)

I won't deny the idea is cool. it just doesn't fit in Dust.

you can try to make the argument for Sansha nanites, but I'm fairly certain that is against CONCORD conventions, and would not be available to DUST mercs.

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NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 882	Posted - 2015.10.06 19:29:00 - [1] - Quote Would it be possible to make a injector that you can stab enemies with, once they are stabbed you can then spawn into their body from the spawn in screen. Effectively taking over their body and their suit. Just wondering if it's possible. Caldari Suit Videos Love Caldari - Since 6/29/2012
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.06 20:25:00 - [2] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Would it be possible to make a injector that you can stab enemies with, once they are stabbed you can then spawn into their body from the spawn in screen. Effectively taking over their body and their suit. Just wondering if it's possible. That's actually an effing cool mechanic. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
maybe deadcatz TRUE TEA BAGGERS Smart Deploy 969	Posted - 2015.10.08 02:05:00 - [3] - Quote That's effing creepy. And no. Because then my blueberries will be like zombies rushing at the red team stompers. Also hits self. Wtf?!?hits self again,oi! Ha! You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.10.08 13:23:00 - [4] - Quote That is metal as **** Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.09 00:21:00 - [5] - Quote maybe deadcatz wrote: That's effing creepy. And no. Because then my blueberries will be like zombies rushing at the red team stompers. Also hits self. Wtf?!?hits self again,oi! Ah but it's not about what they do. Imagine infecting another close with a special nanite weapon then when that player least expects it terminating your clone, and theirs, and assuming control of their body to attack the enemy from behind. NOW THAT IS SCI FI NEW EDEN ***! Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.*
DDx77 Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 403	Posted - 2015.10.09 01:56:00 - [6] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Would it be possible to make a injector that you can stab enemies with, once they are stabbed you can then spawn into their body from the spawn in screen. Effectively taking over their body and their suit. Just wondering if it's possible. So effectively hacking into their spawn feed? Wow what a batpoop crazy idea I love it It's needs some guidelines... It this so you can spawn on an enemy CRU or uplink? Are you simply stealing their gear? Do you trade bodies? Meaning you actually lose a clone too so you can respawn in enemy territory and the fallen enemy is then allowed to spawn wherever? This could be cool fro a specific map or game mode
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.09 02:17:00 - [7] - Quote DDx77 wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: Would it be possible to make a injector that you can stab enemies with, once they are stabbed you can then spawn into their body from the spawn in screen. Effectively taking over their body and their suit. Just wondering if it's possible. So effectively hacking into their spawn feed? Wow what a batpoop crazy idea I love it It's needs some guidelines... It this so you can spawn on an enemy CRU or uplink? Are you simply stealing their gear? Do you trade bodies? Meaning you actually lose a clone too so you can respawn in enemy territory and the fallen enemy is then allowed to spawn wherever? This could be cool fro a specific map or game mode Ideally you'd kill them and directly upload your characters mind into their body assuming their fit and weapons. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Georgia Xavier Incorruptibles 1	Posted - 2015.10.09 02:21:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DDx77 wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: Would it be possible to make a injector that you can stab enemies with, once they are stabbed you can then spawn into their body from the spawn in screen. Effectively taking over their body and their suit. Just wondering if it's possible. So effectively hacking into their spawn feed? Wow what a batpoop crazy idea I love it It's needs some guidelines... It this so you can spawn on an enemy CRU or uplink? Are you simply stealing their gear? Do you trade bodies? Meaning you actually lose a clone too so you can respawn in enemy territory and the fallen enemy is then allowed to spawn wherever? This could be cool fro a specific map or game mode Ideally you'd kill them and directly upload your characters mind into their body assuming their fit and weapons. Free officers? Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.10.09 02:34:00 - [9] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: True Adamance wrote: DDx77 wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: Would it be possible to make a injector that you can stab enemies with, once they are stabbed you can then spawn into their body from the spawn in screen. Effectively taking over their body and their suit. Just wondering if it's possible. So effectively hacking into their spawn feed? Wow what a batpoop crazy idea I love it It's needs some guidelines... It this so you can spawn on an enemy CRU or uplink? Are you simply stealing their gear? Do you trade bodies? Meaning you actually lose a clone too so you can respawn in enemy territory and the fallen enemy is then allowed to spawn wherever? This could be cool fro a specific map or game mode Ideally you'd kill them and directly upload your characters mind into their body assuming their fit and weapons. Free officers? You don't get to keep the stuff. Perhaps instead you simply force them out of their body for a few seconds. Use that in FW and PC and you have back stabbing and neural hacking. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 850	Posted - 2015.10.09 02:51:00 - [10] - Quote Hijacking bodies? Sounds like something Agents do in the Matrix. Purifier. First Class.

NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 894	Posted - 2015.10.09 10:31:00 - [11] - Quote I'm thinking more on the lines is that person's body becomes a mobile spawn point. You or some one else spawning into the match uses his body as a mobile CRU. Instead of wasting a clone or equipment you just steal his body and his mind gets pushed back to the battle server. (Insert Clip of Imperfect Cell "I drink people *****") Caldari Suit Videos Love Caldari - Since 6/29/2012
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 852	Posted - 2015.10.09 20:45:00 - [12] - Quote Imagine going to hack an objective, only to have your body hijacked. Two questions ; 1: If a hijacked Clone dies, who registers the death; the body or the mind? 2: Would FF in FW be applicable to this or not? I can just imagine someone jabbing a tanker as he calls in a vehicle, hijacking the body later on and the driving the tank into the readline, just to be a troll. Same with Snipers and Officer users, just to cost/troll them. (In the words of Krillin: Quaaaaaack) Purifier. First Class.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 898	Posted - 2015.10.10 15:02:00 - [13] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: Imagine going to hack an objective, only to have your body hijacked. Two questions ; 1: If a hijacked Clone dies, who registers the death; the body or the mind? The kill is registered when the clone mind is pushed from the body back to the battle server. So at the moment you or a team mate spawns into that body the kill is registered and death is recorded. Megaman Trigger wrote: 2: Would FF in FW be applicable to this or not? I can just imagine someone jabbing a tanker as he calls in a vehicle, hijacking the body later on and the driving the tank into the readline, just to be a troll. Same with Snipers and Officer users, just to cost/troll them. As far as team mates go, the moment you inject a team mate he wll be killed because the clone will already be connected to the network it's attempting to connect. A team punish will be registered and the player will have the ability to register a second punish on the death screen. Megaman Trigger wrote: (In the words of Krillin: Quaaaaaack) Nothing screws Yamcha except life Caldari Suit Videos Love Caldari - Since 6/29/2012
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Battalion 977	Posted - 2015.10.10 18:00:00 - [14] - Quote ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL WE KNOW THIS HURTS YOU, RATTATI YOUR STRUGGLE IS FUTILE Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 900	Posted - 2015.10.12 17:01:00 - [15] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL WE KNOW THIS HURTS YOU, RATTATI YOUR STRUGGLE IS FUTILE Did you stab Rattati? Some one asked me about skills and stealing bodies.. Because you are hi-jacking the clone it still has all the muscle memory and skills from the person's body you took. So if they have crappy reload skills you get that as well. Your battle knowledge won't transfer unless you hit a supply depot and refit. Caldari Suit Videos Love Caldari - Since 6/29/2012
Haolo Geardreck Calvary Won't Arrive 6	Posted - 2015.10.12 17:53:00 - [16] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Kierkegaard Soren wrote: ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL WE KNOW THIS HURTS YOU, RATTATI YOUR STRUGGLE IS FUTILE Did you stab Rattati? Some one asked me about skills and stealing bodies.. Because you are hi-jacking the clone it still has all the muscle memory and skills from the person's body you took. So if they have crappy reload skills you get that as well. Your battle knowledge won't transfer unless you hit a supply depot and refit. Muscle memory is built up in the brain, despite the wording. This is why your consciousness can jump from clone to clone and they all have your skills. You didn't bring them, you didn't pay for them, the clones are generic bodies supplied by the contract writer. So you would retain all of your skills, which could render an opponents equipment useless in your hands. Perhaps you could only spawn into it if you have the skills to use it. This would encourage diversified skill sets and make it balanced to use. I assume there would be a time limit on how long you can upload into them.. As for who loses a clone: that sad consciousness you evicted when he checks out another clone to respawn. It just wouldnt cost your team a clone when you spawn this way. So using it to troll is pointless, as then youd have to use a clone to spawn again without the uplink. The injector guy would get a special type of kill bonus for opening that window. I assume higher tuners would take less time to inject and last longer. Or being new tech it wouldn't have tiers yet.. G Commando/Sentinel, A Assault/Logistics, M Scout - Terrible FPS gamer - Decent Strategy gamer - Good RPG gamer
NextDark Knight Hellstorm LLC 900	Posted - 2015.10.12 18:08:00 - [17] - Quote Haolo Geardreck wrote: I assume higher tuners would take less time to inject and last longer. Or being new tech it wouldn't have tiers yet.. I'm thinking this would be a officer injector. Yet, unless a dev can confirm this could work in the current game without much coding we are all just talking about a game we like. Also, unlike other injectors it would only have a few uplink chips you could inject. I'm thinking maybe at most 3 injections. Caldari Suit Videos Love Caldari - Since 6/29/2012
Megaman Trigger OSG Planetary Operations 857	Posted - 2015.10.12 18:10:00 - [18] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Imagine going to hack an objective, only to have your body hijacked. Two questions ; 1: If a hijacked Clone dies, who registers the death; the body or the mind? The kill is registered when the clone mind is pushed from the body back to the battle server. So at the moment you or a team mate spawns into that body the kill is registered and death is recorded. But what happens when the hijacked body dies? Does that count as a death for the hijacker or another death for the one hijacked? Purifier. First Class.
Haolo Geardreck Calvary Won't Arrive 6	Posted - 2015.10.13 14:53:00 - [19] - Quote Megaman Trigger wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: Imagine going to hack an objective, only to have your body hijacked. Two questions ; 1: If a hijacked Clone dies, who registers the death; the body or the mind? The kill is registered when the clone mind is pushed from the body back to the battle server. So at the moment you or a team mate spawns into that body the kill is registered and death is recorded. But what happens when the hijacked body dies? Does that count as a death for the hijacker or another death for the one hijacked? I covered that. The injected gets a death on being shunted, the invader gets a death on dying. G Commando/Sentinel, A Assault/Logistics, M Scout - Terrible FPS gamer - Decent Strategy gamer - Good RPG gamer
Knox Firmus Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 44	Posted - 2015.10.13 15:25:00 - [20] - Quote There is so much lore that will argue this is not plausible. I don't think you lot realize what the needle does, it doesn't bring you back to life, it floods your system with nanites that will keep your body running for just a little long, but it damages your brain and in addition to the radiation this body received just from spawning in you won't live long after the match is over (if this body survives till the end). a needle is not putting your brain back in your body. a needle is not bringing you back to life. a terminated clone immediately begins to "decay" a clone's neural implant fries the brain when the clone dies, making the body useless. a still functioning clone has encryption to protect themselves from being hacked (and if they didn't, there'd be no point to fighting, just hack the other team from orbit.) I won't deny the idea is cool. it just doesn't fit in Dust. you can try to make the argument for Sansha nanites, but I'm fairly certain that is against CONCORD conventions, and would not be available to DUST mercs.

Haolo Geardreck Calvary Won't Arrive 7	Posted - 2015.10.13 15:35:00 - [21] - Quote Knox Firmus wrote: There is so much lore that will argue this is not plausible. I don't think you lot realize what the needle does, it doesn't bring you back to life, it floods your system with nanites that will keep your body running for just a little long, but it damages your brain and in addition to the radiation this body received just from spawning in you won't live long after the match is over (if this body survives till the end). a needle is not putting your brain back in your body. a needle is not bringing you back to life. a terminated clone immediately begins to "decay" a clone's neural implant fries the brain when the clone dies, making the body useless. a still functioning clone has encryption to protect themselves from being hacked (and if they didn't, there'd be no point to fighting, just hack the other team from orbit.) I won't deny the idea is cool. it just doesn't fit in Dust. you can try to make the argument for Sansha nanites, but I'm fairly certain that is against CONCORD conventions, and would not be available to DUST mercs. All this would do is create a hole in the neural uplink encryption, allowing someone else to take over the clone G Commando/Sentinel, A Assault/Logistics, M Scout - Terrible FPS gamer - Decent Strategy gamer - Good RPG gamer
Knox Firmus Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 44	Posted - 2015.10.13 15:57:00 - [22] - Quote Haolo Geardreck wrote: All this would do is create a hole in the neural uplink encryption, allowing someone else to take over the clone Our clones are not just remote controlled toys. When your mind gets uploaded into your clone, your brain is imprinted. There are many examples (in and out of New Eden) of terrible things happening when you try to force one brain into another. Even true slaves are only under such mind control because of the extensive implants and cybernetics forcefully put into them.
Haolo Geardreck Calvary Won't Arrive 7	Posted - 2015.10.13 16:20:00 - [23] - Quote Ah, that's a good fluff reason. Subject dropped G Commando/Sentinel, A Assault/Logistics, M Scout - Terrible FPS gamer - Decent Strategy gamer - Good RPG gamer


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