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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.05 00:48:00 -
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The answer to pub balance is no in-game comms as a cherry on top and the primary mechanic being no premade squads. I've preached this again and again and as part of my CPM campaign. Simple matchmaking mechanics will sort players that show a history of squading together or are in the same corp.
Let pubs be the "one player just jumps in and goes for it mode." Casual jamming, not dire tryhard swampass machismo.
No skin off tryhard scrubs since they have two, count them two, game modes for their circle jerking boy lovin'.
In the spirit of GD chatGǪ discuss.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Jared Fogle
Fake Ancient Exiles. 2.0
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Posted - 2015.10.05 00:53:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:The answer to pub balance is no in-game comms as a cherry on top and the primary mechanic being no premade squads. I've preached this again and again and as part of my CPM campaign. Simple matchmaking mechanics will sort players that show a history of squading together or are in the same corp.
Let pubs be the "one player just jumps in and goes for it mode." Casual jamming, not dire tryhard swampass machismo.
No skin off tryhard scrubs since they have two, count them two, game modes for their circle jerking boy lovin'.
In the spirit of GD chatGǪ discuss.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.05 00:53:00 -
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Jared Fogle wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:The answer to pub balance is no in-game comms as a cherry on top and the primary mechanic being no premade squads. I've preached this again and again and as part of my CPM campaign. Simple matchmaking mechanics will sort players that show a history of squading together or are in the same corp.
Let pubs be the "one player just jumps in and goes for it mode." Casual jamming, not dire tryhard swampass machismo.
No skin off tryhard scrubs since they have two, count them two, game modes for their circle jerking boy lovin'.
In the spirit of GD chatGǪ discuss. Stfu
Utfs. This is why we can't have good things.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
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Posted - 2015.10.05 01:02:00 -
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What? And spoil how it's been done for years? Get rid of pub stomping? Force people to play modes where there are other people running the same quality gear as them? Any moment you will be banned for going against the eve way.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
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Posted - 2015.10.05 01:09:00 -
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I think COD has a single player mode, why don't you go play that?
but seriously, why do you want to get rid of the social aspects?
ADS Ramming Revenge!
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Shaun Iwairo
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.05 01:40:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:
In the spirit of GD chatGǪ discuss.
Change pubs to, or create a new mode: Solo Contract
- Solo queue only (gives scotty a chance to do his thing well) - Team comms (with a mute player function of course) - Equalize stats on gear (a STD combat rifle does the same HP/round damage as OFC). Variations like breach and assault are still variations (though equalized) - Remove the effect of HP and DPS modifiers from skills and augmented ammo (this post EDIT: and also this post tells you why I'm for that)
This mode is aimed 100% at NPE. New players can queue up knowing that they're at least going to be doing the same damage and will have the same HP as vets. They won't have as much stuff unlocked as the vets but you gotta have some sort of progression. They'll be able to talk to other new players and vets through the team comms, hopefully making friends and maybe getting recruited. Skilled players are still going to do well, but at least if a new player manages to out-position a vet they've got a chance at taking them down as well. |
Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.05 01:55:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:I think COD has a single player mode, why don't you go play that?
but seriously, why do you want to get rid of the social aspects?
The idea wih comms is to level the playing field because it is all about queueing and playing and new players need to focus on how to play while casuals like me just want to play without worrying about mouth breathers.
The comms part isn't important to that game play. It becomes important as one becomes more familiar with the game and is a good way to promote moving people towards joining corps and seeking the social aspect when ready to progress.
Let's face it, if someone wants the social aspect then pushing then towards FW and PC is a good thing.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.10.05 01:59:00 -
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Then I go on Skype or mumble and continue unaffected. Try again.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:00:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:What? And spoil how it's been done for years? Get rid of pub stomping? Force people to play modes where there are other people running the same quality gear as them? Any moment you will be banned for going against the eve way.
Well, the EVE way is also open world sandbox. One can always go solo or separate into skill levels with others freely by the very nature of system security status et al.
We are worrying about a matchmaking algorithm because we are restricted by lobby mechanics.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:04:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:Then I go on Skype or mumble and continue unaffected. Try again.
And I thought of that. No problem. At least in game won't promote organized comms. The tryhards will always find ways to scrub it in pubs, but at least they have to go around to the back door.
Also, they have to hope they get on the same team. Sure, the matchmaking mechanics would already reduce the whole organized and communicating thing, but hey, might as well push the two way blind option just in case too many blow buddies end up on the same team due to lack of player base.
Oh yeah, the small dying player base! Lol.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:06:00 -
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lol
The C.E.O. of G.L.O.R.Y,
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:07:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:lol
Bob
I'm waiting for the better idea you have?
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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jane stalin
free dropships for newbs
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:20:00 -
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I really think something needs to be done,
If I could "lend" new players my character and apexs and fight them with starter fits and no skills I would. Definitely with the teleporters so we could quickly get into battle
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:23:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:lol Bob I'm waiting for the better idea you have?
Yeah, throw match making out the window. If I'm going to get screwed, I'd rather it be fate then some pecker heads setting me up with idiots on my team ._.
Meta lvl locked matches are the way for CCP to go, for those that can't compete with the more experienced guys using better gear or those who just want to take it easy and save some isk.
This is a multiplayer game, most of us have friends they like to play with and factions do not provide ISK payouts like pubs do. So turning off chats and squads for pub contracts just seems like a stupid idea to me.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:30:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:lol Bob I'm waiting for the better idea you have? Yeah, throw match making out the window. If I'm going to get screwed, I'd rather it be fate then some pecker heads setting me up with idiots on my team ._. Meta lvl locked matches are the way for CCP to go, for those that can't compete with the more experienced guys using better gear or those who just want to take it easy and save some isk. This is a multiplayer game, most of us have friends they like to play with and factions do not provide ISK payouts like pubs do. So turning off chats and squads for pub contracts just seems like a stupid idea to me.
Well, it sounds like then there should be a pubs for new/solo that goes beyond just an extended academy and then have a social, group oriented pubs.
What do y'all say to certain modes like ambush be the solo, casual and then group oriented versions like dom.
I'd like to have a quick play mode that would be like I described in the OP and that could give very little isk and sp because it's all about the playstyle. Then, the group oriented pubs that would still have restrictions to premade squads, but would promote open comms.
Maybe have a forced team comms. While in the coop pub play the team chat is open and you can't change it so as to promote the social cooperation among people who usually don't play together. Closed premade squad chat is just as antisocial based on the responses if you think about it. I mean, you're not expanding your social circle sticking with premades with people you already know.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:35:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:lol Bob I'm waiting for the better idea you have? Yeah, throw match making out the window. If I'm going to get screwed, I'd rather it be fate then some pecker heads setting me up with idiots on my team ._. Meta lvl locked matches are the way for CCP to go, for those that can't compete with the more experienced guys using better gear or those who just want to take it easy and save some isk. This is a multiplayer game, most of us have friends they like to play with and factions do not provide ISK payouts like pubs do. So turning off chats and squads for pub contracts just seems like a stupid idea to me. Well, it sounds like then there should be a pubs for new/solo that goes beyond just an extended academy and then have a social, group oriented pubs. What do y'all say to certain modes like ambush be the solo, casual and then group oriented versions like dom. I'd like to have a quick play mode that would be like I described in the OP and that could give very little isk and sp because it's all about the playstyle. Then, the group oriented pubs that would still have restrictions to premade squads, but would promote open comms. Maybe have a forced team comms. While in the coop pub play the team chat isopen and you can't change it so as to promote the social cooperation among people who usually don't play together. Closed premade squad chat is just as antisocial based on the responses if you think about it. I mean, you're not expanding your social circle sticking with premades with people you already know.
Honestly I would like to see a "Free for all" mode implemented, everyone vs everyone. Or a close quarters map for fast paced play.
The problem with team chat, are the trolls who play loud obnoxious music or sound like they have their mic in a meat grinder.
Really, I hate CCP because so many people come up with good gaming ideas here but they just flush them down the forum drain. We can talk about it, chant, even petition about our ideas but they fall on deaf ears :c
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
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Posted - 2015.10.05 02:56:00 -
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Why would you exclude small squads from working together?
No comms, you are a fool.
This is all together a hairbrain idea.
Why do you still play pubs? You have been around a long time. Its like you are asking for the stomps to stop so you can farm newbs like the scrub you are. Pathetic.
Crush them
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.10.05 03:58:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Why would you exclude small squads from working together?
No comms, you are a fool.
This is all together a hairbrain idea.
Why do you still play pubs? You have been around a long time. Its like you are asking for the stomps to stop so you can farm newbs like the scrub you are. Pathetic.
Lol. Busted!
Hmm, 43, two kids, a vision and muscle problem that is most likely myasthenia gravis, a job, buying a console for skylanders for my kids that I could also kick the tires on a promising addition to EVE, ended up with a dinky version of a game that looked far more promisingGǪ
Stop me if you see a reason I should really pour more of my time and effort into a video game, especially this one.
Pubs are casual, players are wanting a solution to matchmaking, my idea is far more simple than trying to code complex algorithms or meta lock matches on a small playerbase.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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