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Arcann
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.01 19:39:00 -
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Will I really be able to do full damage(100%) to a tank, or was I reading it incorrectly?
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
9
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:01:00 -
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OVER NINE THOUUUUUSAAAAAND percent.
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Hector Carson
DEPT OF CORRUPTION The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:07:00 -
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.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke
Logistics mk.0
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Axel Giatsu
Fallen Angels Syndicate RUST415
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:10:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke Yeah but who would be stupid enough to use this power for anything but trolling as the explosion kills you. I should know I have a fit I specifically use to jump on top of tanks and the turret on the tank and then I just slash repeatedly until they explode
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Loyal Glasses
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:10:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke The description on the knife implies that it already can.
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Raven-747
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:16:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke Its not your everyday kitchen knife. The edge of the blades are empowered by some plasma technology making it stronger. Just read the description and try not to quote without knowing what you are dealing with.
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Maitue Mae
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:19:00 -
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Lore-wise, the Nova Knife collects plasma along the edge of the "blade". You don't stab people with the knife itself, you use the equivalent of a plasma torch to pierce through their armour, which is why you have to charge it up to get more damage, because you are acquiring more plasma. So, it is explained that it can do the exact same thing to a tank.
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:28:00 -
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Axel Giatsu wrote:Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke Yeah but who would be stupid enough to use this power for anything but trolling as the explosion kills you. I should know I have a fit I specifically use to jump on top of tanks and the turret on the tank and then I just slash repeatedly until they explode Then you obviously are not as skilled in Knifing tanks as you think. I've knifed 10 tanks, 20 LAVs, and 2 Dropships and didn't die from their explosion within my I think 10 month now knifing career. Tactical stabs are a thing.
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Axel Giatsu
Fallen Angels Syndicate RUST415
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:30:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Axel Giatsu wrote:Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke Yeah but who would be stupid enough to use this power for anything but trolling as the explosion kills you. I should know I have a fit I specifically use to jump on top of tanks and the turret on the tank and then I just slash repeatedly until they explode Then you obviously are not as skilled in Knifing tanks as you think. I've knifed 10 tanks, 20 LAVs, and 2 Dropships and didn't die from their explosion within my I think 10 month now knifing career. Tactical stabs are a thing. I never said I was skilled Just like having fun I'm better at knifing people anyway
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:38:00 -
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Axel Giatsu wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Axel Giatsu wrote:Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke Yeah but who would be stupid enough to use this power for anything but trolling as the explosion kills you. I should know I have a fit I specifically use to jump on top of tanks and the turret on the tank and then I just slash repeatedly until they explode Then you obviously are not as skilled in Knifing tanks as you think. I've knifed 10 tanks, 20 LAVs, and 2 Dropships and didn't die from their explosion within my I think 10 month now knifing career. Tactical stabs are a thing. I never said I was skilled Just like having fun I'm better at knifing people anyway Knifing is fun no matter what. We must raise your fun skill to over 9000!!!!!
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:44:00 -
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*patiently waits for a av laser rfile*
I LIKE PIE
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Axel Giatsu
Fallen Angels Syndicate RUST415
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:46:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Axel Giatsu wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Axel Giatsu wrote:Yeah but who would be stupid enough to use this power for anything but trolling as the explosion kills you. I should know I have a fit I specifically use to jump on top of tanks and the turret on the tank and then I just slash repeatedly until they explode Then you obviously are not as skilled in Knifing tanks as you think. I've knifed 10 tanks, 20 LAVs, and 2 Dropships and didn't die from their explosion within my I think 10 month now knifing career. Tactical stabs are a thing. I never said I was skilled Just like having fun I'm better at knifing people anyway Knifing is fun no matter what. We must raise your fun skill to over 9000!!!!! Depends on what you use though I for one always enjoy knifing the most on the side of a MinScout #MinScout4Life
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.10.01 20:50:00 -
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Axel Giatsu wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Axel Giatsu wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Axel Giatsu wrote:Yeah but who would be stupid enough to use this power for anything but trolling as the explosion kills you. I should know I have a fit I specifically use to jump on top of tanks and the turret on the tank and then I just slash repeatedly until they explode Then you obviously are not as skilled in Knifing tanks as you think. I've knifed 10 tanks, 20 LAVs, and 2 Dropships and didn't die from their explosion within my I think 10 month now knifing career. Tactical stabs are a thing. I never said I was skilled Just like having fun I'm better at knifing people anyway Knifing is fun no matter what. We must raise your fun skill to over 9000!!!!! Depends on what you use though I for one always enjoy knifing the most on the side of a MinScout #MinScout4Life Min Scout or go home.
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chill penguin
Red and Silver Hand
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:18:00 -
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Raven-747 wrote:Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke Its not your everyday kitchen knife. The edge of the blades are empowered by some plasma technology making it stronger. Just read the description and try not to quote without knowing what you are dealing with.
The Nova Knife is a Mordu innovation. Mordu's Legion took the Caldari ceremony knife and imbued it with Gallente Plasma Tech that the freed Intaki brought with them. While Intaki are considered Gallente, the Gallente have been known to be harsh and slave drivers towards Intaki. So, when Mordu's Legion came along, the Intaki that left renounced their Gallente titles. Therefore, raven is right, a nova knife can rekt a tank. Not relevant, but i wanted to give a little history lesson.
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Cloak Dog
Horizons' Edge No Context
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:39:00 -
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The way it currently works in the game and the animation kind of make it look impossible to destroy a tank with knives.
BUT, if CCP wasn't lazy and maybe thought about this mechanic, they would add another animation and whole whatever to knifing tanks. Like instead of the slice and stab animation, they make it so you have to actually get to the tanks weak spot, charge your knives COMPLETELY, and then it starts a new animation that involes you stabbing the tank repeatedly and causing progressively more damage as you start cutting wires and stuff.
That whole thing should be like hacking an objective. You can can get shot off the tank, or run out of stamina or something. THAT would make sense. And would honestly, be very rewarding if you kill the tank.
:D
I'm more bark then bite...sometimes...
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:53:00 -
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Arcann wrote:Will I really be able to do full damage(100%) to a tank, or was I reading it incorrectly?
You read it correctly.
Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke
NKs have been able to destroy vehicles for some time now. HF FoxFour will simply enhance that aspect.
Also, NKs are not run-of-the-mill knives. You should read the item description in-game. A good paraphrase was also provided by a poster ITT:
Maitue Mae wrote:Lore-wise, the Nova Knife collects plasma along the edge of the "blade". You don't stab people with the knife itself, you use the equivalent of a plasma torch to pierce through their armour, which is why you have to charge it up to get more damage, because you are acquiring more plasma. So, it is explained that it can do the exact same thing to a tank.
chill penguin wrote:The Nova Knife is a Mordu innovation. Mordu's Legion took the Caldari ceremony knife and imbued it with Gallente Plasma Tech that the freed Intaki brought with them. While Intaki are considered Gallente, the Gallente have been known to be harsh and slave drivers towards Intaki. So, when Mordu's Legion came along, the Intaki that left renounced their Gallente titles. Therefore, raven is right, a nova knife can rekt a tank. Not relevant, but i wanted to give a little history lesson.
Citation on NK history? I'm aware of how NKs are described to work, lore-wise, but I've never seen any background information on how they came about show up.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.10.01 21:55:00 -
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I believe AsHMG anf MDs are also getting this change.
Knives would be most beneficial as an openning charge strike before switching to an MD and myo jumping away while blasting the weak spot to prevent being caught in the explosion.
Otherwise you will most likely be blown up.
However, if I could ever manage to raptor jump a DS, it would be worth it.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.10.02 00:21:00 -
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Cloak Dog wrote:The way it currently works in the game and the animation kind of make it look impossible to destroy a tank with knives.
BUT, if CCP wasn't lazy and maybe thought about this mechanic, they would add another animation and whole whatever to knifing tanks. Like instead of the slice and stab animation, they make it so you have to actually get to the tanks weak spot, charge your knives COMPLETELY, and then it starts a new animation that involes you stabbing the tank repeatedly and causing progressively more damage as you start cutting wires and stuff.
That whole thing should be like hacking an objective. You can can get shot off the tank, or run out of stamina or something. THAT would make sense. And would honestly, be very rewarding if you kill the tank.
:D WOW play halo3 much? I think that would be fun but impossible for our dev team to do with the resources they have. |
Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 00:27:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I believe AsHMG anf MDs are also getting this change.
Knives would be most beneficial as an openning charge strike before switching to an MD and myo jumping away while blasting the weak spot to prevent being caught in the explosion.
Otherwise you will most likely be blown up.
However, if I could ever manage to raptor jump a DS, it would be worth it.
Yes, the AHMG and the MD family are getting full efficiency versus vehicles as well.
Also, it's been established that standing atop the turret of a tank will allow you to avoid the explosion damage from melee'ing or knifing the tank. So, you can in fact stab a tank to death without dying to the deathsplosion of the tank.
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Cloak Dog
Horizons' Edge No Context
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Posted - 2015.10.02 01:50:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Cloak Dog wrote:The way it currently works in the game and the animation kind of make it look impossible to destroy a tank with knives.
BUT, if CCP wasn't lazy and maybe thought about this mechanic, they would add another animation and whole whatever to knifing tanks. Like instead of the slice and stab animation, they make it so you have to actually get to the tanks weak spot, charge your knives COMPLETELY, and then it starts a new animation that involes you stabbing the tank repeatedly and causing progressively more damage as you start cutting wires and stuff.
That whole thing should be like hacking an objective. You can can get shot off the tank, or run out of stamina or something. THAT would make sense. And would honestly, be very rewarding if you kill the tank.
:D WOW play halo3 much? I think that would be fun but impossible for our dev team to do with the resources they have. What resources.
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.10.02 01:57:00 -
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Victor Moody Stahl wrote: Yes, the AHMG and the MD family are getting full efficiency versus vehicles as well.
You know, it JUST sank in for me... "ALL Explosive weapons"...
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.02 04:23:00 -
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Story time:
I once almost killed a Soma by using a Flux grenade and an AHMG. I have no HMG Prof, and IIRC I had no damage mods on that fit either.
It would have been one of the most awesome moments I have ever experienced in DUST. But then I died.
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jane stalin
free dropships for newbs
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Posted - 2015.10.02 06:07:00 -
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Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke
I thought a drop suit was to supposed to as tough as a modern day Abrams tank it is just the technology makes the guns and knives much better
From that perspective it is not a stretch to treat all high damage weapons the same.
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Maitue Mae
Vader's-Fist
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:13:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:Hector Carson wrote:.......I think Nova Knives being able to do damage to a tank is unrealistic and shouldn't be even possible, it's like taking a combat knife to an Abrams tank......broke the knife on the armor. Now doing damage to the shields is believable.
If you make Nova Knives capable to destroy tanks I am going to rate this game as a joke I thought a drop suit was to supposed to as tough as a modern day Abrams tank it is just the technology makes the guns and knives much better From that perspective it is not a stretch to treat all high damage weapons the same.
This guy gets it. All of our weapons supposedly can go quite far, even the Assault Rifle, it is just that in the lord they have a range that they are still able to do damage to our suits. Think of it like this, a .22 can kill a person without protection, but add some metal or something and it stops the round. That's our suits in the game, just with deadlier weapons.
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:19:00 -
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CCPs stance on vehicles is ridiculous. You will all be able to kill tanks easily, hurray. Tankers themselves are just going to play other games. As it stands now most real tankers have moved on. You are a community of crybabies who brag once things have been made easy for you.
Crush them
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:46:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Victor Moody Stahl wrote: Yes, the AHMG and the MD family are getting full efficiency versus vehicles as well.
You know, it JUST sank in for me... "ALL Explosive weapons"... In the future, those noobs chucking locus grenades at vehicles may one day accidentally get a kill
Contact Grenades just got a lot more useful.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:56:00 -
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Hilarious thing is the likelihood of a kill from any of the miscellaneous weapons unless they attack en masse.
But for nova knives, they're basically plasma cutters. If we had the animation resources, it would be cool to use them to carve your way into a vehicle to rip the pilot from his moorings. But I don't see that in the future. Or being able to use myofibs on commandos to rodeo tanks and tear through to the guts.
My ONLY reservation about that is the comparative inability of a driver to retaliate against the idiot hugging his turret without running into the redline or instapopping out with an HMG or something equally stupid.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
12
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Posted - 2015.10.02 20:28:00 -
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Tried jumping on an HAV and hugging the turret while knifing.
It was super hard, such that I never bothered again.
I also made the mistake of trying it on an HAV with a missle turret once. Another mistake I will never make again for different reasons.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.10.03 00:00:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:*patiently waits for a av laser rfile* The Laser Rifle practically is AV.
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