DUST Search - Awesome skills sax.... but wtf is your team??

Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

Judge Rhadamanthus was, and probably still is, a well respected dropships pilot who advocated strongly for Vehicle/AV balance through forum post, videos, and even becoming CPM!

Actually, no, Judge Rath is considered an in-joke among the community. His story is a cautionary tale about electing someone purely based on their ability to edit a Youtube video properly and have a British accent.

Bradric Banewolf wrote:

He left the game midway through his CPM term because of the imbalance with his favorite roles. Some say he was biased, but his logic was undeniable.

Initially he took a leave of absence due to some personal issues that, I believe, involved someone in his family being ill. This is complete understandable. When he came back he had discovered Rattati had balanced dropships so they were no longer 50 KDR genocide chariots (that number was validated by CPM1, look it up. It's ******* crazy).

Judge Rath may have had the ability to steer the dropship balance one way or another, but he opted not to. He quit. And instead of saying, "Players and CCP I resign because X" he just dropped off the radar completely and started posting mediocre Destiny gameplay videos. He is a bum and a tool who abandoned the dropship community when they needed his advocacy.


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Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 18:43:00 - [1] - Quote So I just watched this vid: https://youtu.be/VC3nnVFedyE And let me just say, NICE JOB SAX!! You almost made me miss my tank.... then I remembered the price tag shudders As I stated in the comments, I took issue with the fact that you had no team. The first guys left, and we're never replaced. Leaving only a few to do what they could, which isn't much usually, except in a vets case. That ability you have comes with massive SP while most noobs in your situation would be helpless generally?! 1. Where have all the pilots gone? No more judge, P.F.T.C.- .... JUDGE COME BACK! I run often with my homie Hstreet, and his gunner Dlowe. Also, the sniper ago tera. The four man squad we'really able to setup is devastating in domination! As a ground troop having air support and long range fire support on comms is simply beautiful! I give them ground feedback on targets, agro has lead marking targets and dropping OB's, and H and D have vehicle interdiction on lock down! We were having a discussion about this just last night as to why we almost never see vehicle pilots anymore? A few things mentioned... 1. AV Is insane, and particularly Minmando's with swarms! 3 high slots leaves room for 3 dmg mods! Add proficiency 5 and warbarge dmg, and you can see why I'm no longer tanking?! Not all AV is crippling like this though. A forge is still a forge.... unless it's an alldin's.... that thing is in a whole different bracket, but should be as it is officer. The PLC is my choice of AV as I'm pretty high up on SP, and veteran field experience, so I like to challenge myself. It serves as a anti-troop/anti-vehicle weapon, but isnt that easy to use. Swarms are easy mode IMO, and the forge is awesome,... but isn't gal :) 2. The Risk vs. Reward AV yields great reward in isk, but being a pilot does not?! In the vid sax didn't break 300k!!!?? I've posted about this before, but every thought I was making it up. The payout system is biased and broken. How does he get paid so low when he's 1st on the leader board, there are less to split the pay with, and he kills 35 dropsuits and did insane vehicle damage? I've adreesed this before, along with many other players, but apparently you guys think we're just trying to proto stomp.... funny... sax had no team to stomp with in this one... ? Now if he had repped the losing 7 players he would have broke 500k? Totally not broken right? If he would've been in a tank he probably would've made less, and there would've been 12 AV guys chasing him with swarms?! Even if he would've done the same on the leader board his payout been the same or less. His payout in this match didn't even pay for the dropships he was flying!!! 3. Players not fighting Another issue directly tied to isk payouts! Players simply count they're losses. They may not be tactical and don't want to play as a team, but apparently they can do math lol! They don't wanna push to win only to get paid a quarter of their losses back?! Common sense says it's not worth it. Even in PC CEO's are now paying ringers and Corp members extra on top of their payouts for battles because the isk payouts now range from 200k to just under 2 mil depending on if there is a fight or not?! Unless you're being paid in isk or officer and experimental gear, it's just not worth it. Players are asked to rock full proto in a match where you can easily be killed 20 times x 130k fits?!? If the enemy shows up 3 deep on a raid the payout is non existent?! Also, skill plays a big part. In particular skill points! In the pubs, where the payout is trash, players who don't have massive skill points can't turn a battle the way us vets can. Us vets see no point sometimes if the match is just going to be a loss?! A recipe for quitting has just been stirred when the enemy team is q synced with 3 tanks and an ads in tow?! Yes, I can fight against this, or I could've with a 6 man squad.... Currently the 4 of us can either A. Deal with the vehicles via counter-vehicles(the high cost no reward option), or AV. AV it is, but if our team is any different amount of F*CKED UP variables, we'recommend just going to get hammered as the enemy teams ground troops push us to the redline, where most likely our blues already are?! If you want newer players to spec into something besides sniper rifles and rep tools, then the "payout system", or reward for pushing the fight, every fight, needs to be higher! They simply can't be expected to go up against vets with such low options, but in order to be any kind of effective they must spec all of their SP into one thing. Only vets have these tons of options for combat, but we likely can't afford to even use most of it?! A rookie merc can't be effective with points every where. 4. The payout system Is basically built around the "highest warpoints accrued" system. This is a fail because if I tanked in a battle, and stopped their blaster tanks from crushing our team, shouldn't I be compensated handsomely for basically saving the battle? Or in the case of sax's video, he basically was the team! 230k It is also said that the payout system is based on equipment destroyed, and the amount is accrued into a pot, split with the winning team getting the higher %, and dealt out to the teams from 1 to 16 the most going to them in that order?! You're basically fostering and supporting fotm, camping, and non tactical gameplay?! With this system I just need to find a dumb enough heavy to rep?! I get paid while he gets obliterated time after time, and he is then paid 2 to 300k if he's lucky?! When I first started doing PC's, I remember how many mercs were volunteering to be min logi lol! You scrubs lol! They were basically in competition for the biggest payout. Which is fine, but what about the rest of us? I think the payout system should be individual! That way if I, or in this video sax, decides to go hard or go home? Continued.... "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 18:53:00 - [2] - Quote We get paid for our performance! If I'm in a PC I should be paid for my performance regardless of how many warpoints some logi who went 1/15 9000 wps has?! I've been in PC's holding an outside point solo, or at most with one other player. Defending it from the guantlet of attacks as whole 5 man squads have tried to take it! I give what I got in dmg and fight, but will not be paid what I'm worth in fight potential. This current system rewards hiding in the redline, and a whole host of other strategies that help make it easy for players to leave battle. I would like to see this changed so players like this in the video can actually be rewarded! o7 "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 18:54:00 - [3] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: JUDGE COME BACK! No, Judge. Don't do that. I agree. Judge deserves far better than this game COME TO STAR CITIZEN JUDGE, WE HAVE COOKIES!!!! Will be playing star citizen soon as well once my PC gets a well deserved overhaul! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 18:55:00 - [4] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: TLDR - Forges and PLC`s are respectable honourable AV weapons. Swarms are just some scrub device that nobody with any self respect uses...... amirite? Exactly! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 19:13:00 - [5] - Quote 4lbert Wesker wrote: who the **** is Judge? Judge Rhadamanthus was, and probably still is, a well respected dropships pilot who advocated strongly for Vehicle/AV balance through forum post, videos, and even becoming CPM! He's the soul reason why Rail tanks can't hit you from 600 meters anymore. He left the game midway through his CPM term because of the imbalance with his favorite roles. Some say he was biased, but his logic was undeniable. There are too many other great dropship/tank pilots to mention, but they all generally agreed with him.... for the most part. This is one of my major pet peaves with alot of players in this game. Some will come here on the forums to disagree with you knowing full well something is extremely unbalanced. They use something that is broken as a crutch to pad kd, but then complain that no one is playing the game?! I have more bad games than good I assure you, but losing and dying don't deter me from playing so much as imbalances and cheating. I can take an L. I'm a soldier, father, husband, and warrior in many respects. Knowing how to recover from a loss is a better life skill than winning by any means. Some of the games attributes are broken, vehicle/AV being one of them, and guys like Judge, Tuarion bruni, the CPM 1 and 2, aeon amadi, and I apologize, but so many others I can't name right off the top of my head, have tried to fix them. They are met with massive resistance by no skill scrubs who abuse broken mechanics and glitches. The large majority of the player base actually wants balance, but can't help but run fotm to counter fotm?! I ask for balance here in the forums often, and I am often met with counter arguments on all post. That is fine, and I except free opinion, but don't be that scrub just looking to keep your crutch knowing full well it's broken lol! I've actually, on numerous occasions, nerfed myself lol! I'm fine with that though because I play this game for the challenge and tactics! Not to watch my kd?! I use kd as a guide to tell me how my tactics, and my teams tactics, are working or failing. I use all the leader board stats though. Not just my favorite number. Sorry for such a long explanation 4lbert, and no it wasn't directed at you. This topic just gets me going because I love to play this game, and want to see it grow. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 19:34:00 - [6] - Quote Koch Rosenzweig wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: TLDR - Forges and PLC`s are respectable honourable AV weapons. Swarms are just some scrub device that nobody with any self respect uses...... amirite? Thanks Since I know you did read it, your opinion on the matter would be greatly appreciated. I know you like to play dumb, but the opinion's of the Spanish-speaking community is truly needed in the English-speaking forum to bridge the gap in understanding. "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 19:40:00 - [7] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Another thing, Av is balanced 1 v 1 (Av Guy V Vehicle) BUT EVERY man and his dog has either: - Pro Forge - Pro Swarms - Pro PLC - Remotes for jihading So its never 1 v 1 Ive had near enough full teams chasing me around the map, just cos' i was in a pro tank. They would rather see me lose 1.4 mil isk than win the game And ADS omg dont even go there.... This is how a usual game in an ads goes... Kill 1 guy... He respawns minmando with swarms Kill another guy... pro forge Spend the rest of the game running away from swarms which you cannot outrun anymore i once have been so annoyed with swarmers i have plowed my dropship right into their fat ass Pythons need one hell of a buff tbh, first thing a PG buff so we can take that stupid pg upgrade off and put a shield reg Also the slot layout needs to be changed back to: - 4 highs - 2 lows This will give enough space for a comfortable amount of shields and the low slots will help with the fitting if needed. Something needs to be done with swarms, i have a Dropship i like to call 'The Flying Tank' The Flying Tanks Stats: grimsness 3500 armour 2 hardners 110 reps AT-1 missile launcher Mobile Cru Afterburner And 1 minmando can take it down. Yeah Hstreet has built some pretty mean fits, for both dropships and tanks, in order to stay a vehicle pilot. When I'm ground troop in as he and Dlowe are in the vehicles and agro is sniping, we are 65% looking for the minmando more than other vehicles! This isn't balance because there is no way one dropsuit should be such a threat, and more so than a TANK! Minmando's are either swarming them, mass driving me, elbowing me with 1200 dmg... Pause for the cause (P.F.T.C.).. that sh*t is just wrong CCP... fix it "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 19:59:00 - [8] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus was, and probably still is, a well respected dropships pilot who advocated strongly for Vehicle/AV balance through forum post, videos, and even becoming CPM! Actually, no, Judge Rath is considered an in-joke among the community. His story is a cautionary tale about electing someone purely based on their ability to edit a Youtube video properly and have a British accent. Bradric Banewolf wrote: He left the game midway through his CPM term because of the imbalance with his favorite roles. Some say he was biased, but his logic was undeniable. Initially he took a leave of absence due to some personal issues that, I believe, involved someone in his family being ill. This is complete understandable. When he came back he had discovered Rattati had balanced dropships so they were no longer 50 KDR genocide chariots (that number was validated by CPM1, look it up. It's ******* crazy). Judge Rath may have had the ability to steer the dropship balance one way or another, but he opted not to. He quit. And instead of saying, "Players and CCP I resign because X" he just dropped off the radar completely and started posting mediocre Destiny gameplay videos. He is a bum and a tool who abandoned the dropship community when they needed his advocacy. And then there's salty players like this who live to throw shade lol! You want some water bro? All that salt can't be good for you lol! Question: what did judge owe any of us? I mean seriously? Do you think he owed the community, a video game community, any explanation at all? Whatever his reasons, the undeniable fact is he tried harder than most, regardless of his biases! Show me a player who isn't a little biased? I love playing with the Gallentean race, and advocated for the armor tank to be buffed, but after the buff I was like "whole up bruh!?! CCP, why did you nerf the shield tank? Balance is the goal most here are after! I could care less about the man's personal vices! Are you done throwing sand? "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 20:16:00 - [9] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Question: what did judge owe any of us? I mean seriously? Do you think he owed the community, a video game community, any explanation at all? If he was just some youtuber and member of the community? No, he can do what he wants. But he was part of CPM1. We voted him in with the agreement that he would be a player representative for CCP. He failed in that duty. He failed hard. Bradric Banewolf wrote: Whatever his reasons, the undeniable fact is he tried harder than most, regardless of his biases! Show me a player who isn't a little biased? He can be biased. I'm not arguing with his own personal opinions on balancing. In fact, I watched a few of his videos and they had some good points at times. I'm pointing out the fact that he abandoned the Dust 514 community because he got his panties in a twist. He couldn't maintain a dialogue with CCP or his fellow CPM1. He pitched a tantrum like a toddler. Hell, if he would have stayed on board and fought tooth and nail to keep 50 KDR dropships that is a helluva lot better than nope-ing out like cowardly toolbag. Clearly you don't like the man, but that aside, let the first without sin cast the first stone.... The good that he did allows you to fly the skies, if you so chose, without being rail tanked from a safety zone of 600 meters! Give credit where it is due! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 20:30:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: He's the soul reason why Rail tanks can't hit you from 600 meters anymore. This is very wrong. Enlighten me... Sure the "team" did the work, but he brought it to the attention of the public. This is where I think it matters most. "Anybody order chaos?"

Bradric Banewolf Titans of Phoenix 1	Posted - 2015.09.21 21:25:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: He's the soul reason why Rail tanks can't hit you from 600 meters anymore. This is very wrong. Enlighten me... Sure the "team" did the work, but he brought it to the attention of the public. This is where I think it matters most. We didn't have ccp rattati at the time and lets just say the development team from back then where far more traditional black box developers; it was very difficult to make changes for the better. CCP Remnant and CCP Wolfman did quite a few vehicle changes on their own and there where plenty of fights to overturn the the things that didn't work out like the 50m forge gun. Maybe I shouldn't have fought so hard to keep ADS in along with Hans and Kane. I thank all of you for your efforts, especially the CPM, but just look at how many ppl don't know anything about any of this? Judge, and other youtubers, draw the attention of the other 50% that pay no attention to the forums. Judge, however biased, focused on the actual mechanics of the game, which was indeed informal to alot them! CeoPyrex, is always good with the update videos pointing out things guys might not have time to check the forums for. I watch all my subscribed channels before work :) "Anybody order chaos?"