DUST Search - Shared passive scans

HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:

Samantha Hunyz wrote:

HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:

Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote:

HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:

Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields.

I'm not a dedicated logi, so someone who is feel free to chime in, but wouldn't a dedicated passive scan fitting be made of wet tissue paper and elmer's glue? A stray sneeze would instagib you.

I have every logi to proto... 24 db scans out to 37.5m with at least 900ehp... Not to mention active scans

You won't get within 30 m before a armor tanked heavy/commando/assuault shreds you from that squad, all while he's being repped at 105-155 hp per sec.

lol all of those mods negated by my cal scout and 1 complex dampener. Seems wasteful for a logi to fit all those mods but I don't normally play up close.

Maybe but that one dampener leaves your hp low enuf you'll die in less than a second within 50 meters.

Btw I also have cal scouts maxed.

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HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 897	Posted - 2015.09.16 20:03:00 - [1] - Quote Since everyone is talking about active scans. Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields. They took team shared scans away from the whole team because it was OP. Squads already have the benefit of coordination and being able to use suits that complement each other. Active scans are just one problem.
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 74	Posted - 2015.09.16 20:04:00 - [2] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields. I'm not a dedicated logi, so someone who is feel free to chime in, but wouldn't a dedicated passive scan fitting be made of wet tissue paper and elmer's glue? A stray sneeze would instagib you.
Radiant Pancake3 1	Posted - 2015.09.16 20:14:00 - [3] - Quote Passive only takes highs so... Armor based suit can stack passive scan mods. Rejected by Dreis Min Loyalist
Asad Thahab-Jabal Incorruptibles 74	Posted - 2015.09.16 20:18:00 - [4] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Passive only takes highs so... Armor based suit can stack passive scan mods. Right, but the scan range will still be mediocre. Sure, you would scan scouts, but they would already be within striking distance so who cares.
Radiant Pancake3 1	Posted - 2015.09.16 20:20:00 - [5] - Quote Maybe... I know someone with an ewar logi... Lit up the whole minimap. Or you could use an ewar speedy scout... Rejected by Dreis Min Loyalist
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 907	Posted - 2015.09.16 21:09:00 - [6] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields. I'm not a dedicated logi, so someone who is feel free to chime in, but wouldn't a dedicated passive scan fitting be made of wet tissue paper and elmer's glue? A stray sneeze would instagib you. I have every logi to proto... 24 db scans out to 37.5m with at least 900ehp... Not to mention active scans You won't get within 30 m before a armor tanked heavy/commando/assuault shreds you from that squad, all while he's being repped at 105-155 hp per sec.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 907	Posted - 2015.09.16 21:21:00 - [7] - Quote An Amarr assault can run 1136 armor and proto weapon if he has a logi nearby... A sentinel can run 523 shield, 1344 armor ( plus his resistance ) and see everything with a shot at killing him as it comes into optimal range. Squading can be OP as hell if your squad isn't low on brains.
Jakkal Shoobah Eastern Star Recon Group 226	Posted - 2015.09.16 21:22:00 - [8] - Quote Passive scan gallente logi is still squishy as **** 3 prec 2 range 2 reactives 1 plate. About 48 meter total scan range, 12 mtrs of 12, 24 meters of 24, and the last 12 of 48. Its great in cqc, but midrange its not 600 hp. 700 is the max but with no regen. Its only powerful if your squad protects you and you aren't stupid about it. While slow to anger and occasionally indecisive, they are also capable of harnessing enormous resolve when truly tested.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.09.16 21:26:00 - [9] - Quote While passive scans are still very powerful, I'd say there is nothing OP about passive scan logis. KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
el OPERATOR Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.09.16 21:35:00 - [10] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields. I'm not a dedicated logi, so someone who is feel free to chime in, but wouldn't a dedicated passive scan fitting be made of wet tissue paper and elmer's glue? A stray sneeze would instagib you. I have every logi to proto... 24 db scans out to 37.5m with at least 900ehp... Not to mention active scans You won't get within 30 m before a armor tanked heavy/commando/assuault shreds you from that squad, all while he's being repped at 105-155 hp per sec. Definitely works best when that squad knows to a) watch their minimaps and b) cover your a** some as well as themselves. TW is OP. Open-Beta Vet. CAPCRO Nomad. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR

HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 907	Posted - 2015.09.16 21:49:00 - [11] - Quote Jakkal Shoobah wrote: Passive scan gallente logi is still squishy as **** 3 prec 2 range 2 reactives 1 plate. About 48 meter total scan range, 12 mtrs of 12, 24 meters of 24, and the last 12 of 48. Its great in cqc, but midrange its not 600 hp. 700 is the max but with no regen. Its only powerful if your squad protects you and you aren't stupid about it. Adding range amps is almost pointless since they got nerfed try three complex plate and two complex reps... I ran reactive for a long time their crap reps and ferro are better but basic if your chasing teammates.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 12	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:03:00 - [12] - Quote I have hated shared passive scans since I realized they were a thing almost 2 years ago. They are a big reason CCP put in the Rings to begin with. That being said, unfortunately, removal of Shared Scans is such a massive undertaking that it was negated by Rattati. Since that time, of course the problem was compounded with increased squad sizes. This is one of the reasons I have little optimism for the game at the moment. EWAR is practically dead, but if resurrected would in many cases be OP. To get past that we are going to need some really creative solutions, because I feel were are hamstrung by resources. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 907	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:31:00 - [13] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I have hated shared passive scans since I realized they were a thing almost 2 years ago. They are a big reason CCP put in the Rings to begin with. That being said, unfortunately, removal of Shared Scans is such a massive undertaking that it was negated by Rattati. Since that time, of course the problem was compounded with increased squad sizes. This is one of the reasons I have little optimism for the game at the moment. EWAR is practically dead, but if resurrected would in many cases be OP. To get past that we are going to need some really creative solutions, because I feel were are hamstrung by resources. You don't have them out of squad... I don't see how it's not just a line of code to be removed. It's literally using someone else's suit. Without them having to run equipment to support it. As for active scans if the user was the only person who could see his scan it would not be such an issue.
Samantha Hunyz Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 200	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:34:00 - [14] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields. I'm not a dedicated logi, so someone who is feel free to chime in, but wouldn't a dedicated passive scan fitting be made of wet tissue paper and elmer's glue? A stray sneeze would instagib you. I have every logi to proto... 24 db scans out to 37.5m with at least 900ehp... Not to mention active scans You won't get within 30 m before a armor tanked heavy/commando/assuault shreds you from that squad, all while he's being repped at 105-155 hp per sec. lol all of those mods negated by my cal scout and 1 complex dampener. Seems wasteful for a logi to fit all those mods but I don't normally play up close. When I look down my scope, all I see are dead people.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 907	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:35:00 - [15] - Quote Radiant Pancake3 wrote: Maybe... I know someone with an ewar logi... Lit up the whole minimap. Or you could use an ewar speedy scout... Might have been me my logi always runs at least 3 complex precision... Since I'm not going away from a group to be effective as that role, even solo I just turn and fire in the direction enemy's are coming from to warn my team that's stacking everything but precision.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 907	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:33:00 - [16] - Quote Samantha Hunyz wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields. I'm not a dedicated logi, so someone who is feel free to chime in, but wouldn't a dedicated passive scan fitting be made of wet tissue paper and elmer's glue? A stray sneeze would instagib you. I have every logi to proto... 24 db scans out to 37.5m with at least 900ehp... Not to mention active scans You won't get within 30 m before a armor tanked heavy/commando/assuault shreds you from that squad, all while he's being repped at 105-155 hp per sec. lol all of those mods negated by my cal scout and 1 complex dampener. Seems wasteful for a logi to fit all those mods but I don't normally play up close. Maybe but that one dampener leaves your hp low enuf you'll die in less than a second within 50 meters. Btw I also have cal scouts maxed.
maybe deadcatz the nomercs 769	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:15:00 - [17] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: An Amarr assault can run 1136 armor and proto weapon if he has a logi nearby... A sentinel can run 523 shield, 1344 armor ( plus his resistance ) and see everything with a shot at killing him as it comes into optimal range. Squading can be OP as hell if your squad isn't low on brains. sings Remote explosive man coming in to mess up your day! 'Perhaps fate will bless us,before this world opens its maw and swallows us'-space pirate encrypted log. They all died.
Samantha Hunyz Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 200	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:16:00 - [18] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Samantha Hunyz wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields. I'm not a dedicated logi, so someone who is feel free to chime in, but wouldn't a dedicated passive scan fitting be made of wet tissue paper and elmer's glue? A stray sneeze would instagib you. I have every logi to proto... 24 db scans out to 37.5m with at least 900ehp... Not to mention active scans You won't get within 30 m before a armor tanked heavy/commando/assuault shreds you from that squad, all while he's being repped at 105-155 hp per sec. lol all of those mods negated by my cal scout and 1 complex dampener. Seems wasteful for a logi to fit all those mods but I don't normally play up close. Maybe but that one dampener leaves your hp low enuf you'll die in less than a second within 50 meters. Btw I also have cal scouts maxed. lol, 1 off tank slot is too much to sacrifice really? Get gud scrub. On my Calmando I have added armor to, and ferroscales or reactives to my assault, but never my cal scout. If a call scout doesn't get the drop on a player, they are dead regardless, so dampening up is worth more than armor anyways. I watched my cousin who is a logi in PC battles taking on tanked Cal scouts with Bons with his non scanning suit simply by looking the direction that they were most likely to approach with a basic assault combat rifle no damage mods. F.Y.I. saying your speced into "X" was no correlation to "Y" Not sure how many dampeners it would take for a gal or amar scout to beat scanners, but if its one that should be more than acceptable as they can supplement HP with shields to an extent. If it takes naturally more than 1 slot, then I see a problem. When I look down my scope, all I see are dead people.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 12	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:57:00 - [19] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I have hated shared passive scans since I realized they were a thing almost 2 years ago. They are a big reason CCP put in the Rings to begin with. That being said, unfortunately, removal of Shared Scans is such a massive undertaking that it was negated by Rattati. Since that time, of course the problem was compounded with increased squad sizes. This is one of the reasons I have little optimism for the game at the moment. EWAR is practically dead, but if resurrected would in many cases be OP. To get past that we are going to need some really creative solutions, because I feel were are hamstrung by resources. You don't have them out of squad... I don't see how it's not just a line of code to be removed. It's literally using someone else's suit. Without them having to run equipment to support it. As for active scans if the user was the only person who could see his scan it would not be such an issue. If it was that easy, it would have been done a long time ago. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2442533#post2442533 Literally listed under "Can't Do" Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 15	Posted - 2015.09.17 01:07:00 - [20] - Quote Asad Thahab-Jabal wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Also consider passive scans one logi can stack complex precision and nobody but dampene scouts are getting near that squad leaving the rest of the group open to stack damage or myo's or shields. I'm not a dedicated logi, so someone who is feel free to chime in, but wouldn't a dedicated passive scan fitting be made of wet tissue paper and elmer's glue? A stray sneeze would instagib you. Nah. Armor's better than shields and Logis have lots of slots. Precision in highs; plenty of room for armor in lows. I run a 3x precision uparmored GalLogi from time to time. Not a bad suit.



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